Gee I didn't know 74 2.0L cars in this condition where going for $10K..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...2478033620&rd=1

Oh, even better, it was driven by teenage girls to school.

Maybe I could see if it was babied from the original owner and all stock they shouldnt feel guilty for setting their buy it now price for 10 grand, but some people need a reality check. For that much you can buy a nice -6.

I was thinking the same thing..

There where other things that alerted me like the "rust bubbles"

it said it was from Atlanta, what do you think about it coming from AA? I bet it did and he paid too much and now thinks its worth that.

Please forward the long list of nice sixes you know for sale at $10k.

Anthony, please send a list of the ones you don't buy to me.

Don't mean to pile on here, but driven to school by high school girls ALL YEAR ROUND. That means it's had a few dozen nice salt baths over the winters. Merrillville is very close to the Chicago area for those unfamiliar with the area.

There's some deusch also that's trying to sell his 73 2.0 on the DuPont registry site for about $8,900. These people must be smoking some good stuff

I really like that interior though but the green has to go

I met a 914 owner through an ebay auction, and when I picked my parts up he had a nice 6 he picked up for 11. He had some stuff since, like paint, but from what I understood its a nice -6. He might have gotten a great deal, but thats what I was judging my 10 grand figure off of. Im not trying to be confrontational, there are a lot more people in here that know a LOT more about the value of a -6, but I wasnt pulling that number out of my ass.

Your being way to literal for me....

Me too

Hey Merrillville is only 15 min from me. I emailed the seller to see if I could come check it out. If i can I will post some pics and such.

- Garold

Cool, maybe you can get an idea how he came up with the value he put on it.

With cost of gas going up and with mileage + the fun factor of these cars, would make them worth at least $10K

- Garold

PS I will get the story from him

Cool Garold! Who knows, maybe it's decent.

Be sure to check this:

"7 rust spots fixed on original redo. 2 spots in the pan area, not on floor boards. Have 2 areas for repair of rust coming back, under sail panel on passenger side, and a small area behind the drivers front tire fenderwell."

Bring a "Rouser Special" with you (Stick for poking at rusty areas).

Martin..Thanks for your input..you have some very valid points...

If I had the spare cash I'd probably pay $8500. or $10000. for a mint car...but if you read the condition of this car you soon wonder if the rust is coming back in 2 places ..well how long before it comes back in all...it was driven year round...bla..bla..bla...
I have been restoring cars and tractors for 25+ years and I can tell you without a doubt its easy to get $10,000. into a $7,000. car or Tractor
because a guy might put $10,000. in a car sure does't make it worth that much in the market and just because you advertise it for $10,000. doesn't mean anyone will pay that. value is relative to many things including but not limited to the shine of the paint

that said I think we all want the value of our car to increase.....

Just my .02...

Martin I agree with you. I paid more than most would have a for solid car that needs cosmetics (sp) done to it. I do have a hard time thinking any car in our area of the midwest (aka lb of road salt per foot of road, capital) is worth $10k after reading

and and lastly

This means to me at best $5k - $6K tops. If I get a chance to inspect it I will. I will take pics and bring my rust detector

I'm the last one that should be saying anything about others 914s, but a $10k buy me now

- Garold

Everbody did notice the In my 1st post I hope, to clarify I was joking around not necessarily making fun of the car....although....LOL.....

I'd rather they not go up so I can keep buying nice ones for what I'd call bargain prices. Less than $10k for a mint condition 914 is an awesome deal for a fun to drive classic car.





That's fine but there is market reality. If you really need to sell a car you are not going to get what you put into it. That's a sad fact of reality. Also a lot of what I see "put into" cars is mostly maintenance or taking care of deferred maintenance. If you spend $1500 rebuilding your tranny or $4000 rebuilding your engine, it doesn't raise the value much at all. To me that is taking care of wear items - maintenance. To me spending $500-$1000/year keeping these cars going is just the cost of ownership.

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Anthony, did you see the black '73 on e-bay with 20K on it? I remember you were looking for a black one...

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Well put..

Well, this might be to pacify the wife. I see it all the time at hot rod shows. Guys come with their hotrods and put a huge price tag on their car so they can say they tried to sell it. And, if anyone ever game them that money, they would sell it. Ive seen cars with the same for sale sign for 4+ years.

I did see the black one. It's tough that it's 3000 miles away. Being that I'll never find a original black six in nice condition, that would be a great start on a conversion.

everyone here should hope he get's his buy it now price. you can't tell me you would be upset if your neighbor sold his $500k house for $1 mil, would you? aren't inflated prices on these cars good for all of us??????

yes they are as long as we're owners, not buyers.

Increasing prices are only good for us if we intend to sell. And as I learned as a kid trading basketball cards, it doesn't matter what the Becket (pricing book) says; the things are only worth what you can get someone to pay for it. Personally, I don't intend on selling my 914 any time soon.

If the values go up, I would imagine the prices for replacement parts go up too and I can't see how that would help me.

If the values go up, the cost to insure them would also go up. Again, not something I desire.

So no, I don't really see why I would want the value of 914's to go up.

so you're a "glass is half empty" kind of guy.......

Right now www.manheimgold.com rates a 73 2.0 (what i have) for $6,000 in good, $9,000 in excellent and 11,000 for show. Similarly, a '70 -6 is 12,500 in good, 16,000 in excellent, and 20,000 in show. I have no idea how accurate this place is, but in some of the other models Ive seen (ie 65 ford mustang, 78 fiat 124) they seem kinda steep. But if you cut those prices in half, you have a good 2 liter -4 going for 3 grand. That seems more like reality.

It seems to me its so difficult to determine the value of the car. Its all about what the buyer wants. For instance, if I were to drop a non stock engine, it will be less valuable to some people because it isnt original, but more valuable to others because its more powerful.

I think a GOOD 2.0 for 3 grand is a thing of the past...way past.

Well, a good for manheimgold.com is different then a good as I would think of it. Remember they have Poor, Good, Excellent, and Show ratings. I think Good means its running, not falling apart, older paint. Something excellent would be new paint, nothing needing immediate repair, and show would be basically everything new. I honestly dont know how I would rate my 914. I bought mine with an engine that needed work, had mediocre paint, good interior, and was pretty rust free (good longs and new battery tray) for 1200.

Not for a single second do I hope he gets 10k for it ..period

Unless a guy has more money then brains would he want a car that needs rust repair and paint work to go for that kind of money...period....

Send me a copy too, even if they're just so-so at 10,000/ LOL

I would rather put 10 grand into my own teener.....

Yup, I agree. The rust repairs/issues are what keeps the value down on that car. There are some 914/4's that are worth $10k+ IMHO, but they are original, documented, never been popped, never rusty, or EXCELLENT restos.

Hey how about that black '73 I mentioned earlier. $8100 already! For a 1.7!
Black '73

Hey, at least the seller of the green car was honest about the car's rust repair history, right? That's a good thing.

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I would rather put 10 grand into my own teener..... [/quote]
You mean you don't have 10K in it...what a hunk...LOL...

I bought my 3 914's because I love these cars,they are a kick to drive and because they where inexpensive..at least to buy..
I'd much rather spend 10K on my Chevelle

I want Matt's rust free car that needs motor work for 1200....

anybody got one of those to sell?

b

Hey, there's no such thing as a rust free 914

I think I got a pretty good deal. An engine rebuild, some body work (the paint is pretty good, a few small spots and some buffing), and I have a nice 2l. Im very happy with my find. I was working out the numbers, and Im still going to come out at like 6 grand total with engine, suspension (5 lug), and body done, which is more then I would ever get for it.

But oh well, you cant build a car for the re sale price.

i would have paid $10k for that black one. then i would've sold the tool kit for $8k

I don't know if I want to know how much I've got wrapped up in mine, and it's not even running.
I've kept all of the receipts from the 'many' parts I've purchased over the years, and someday when I'm feeling way too good about life, I'll set down and do the math.

I think of it as a hobby, not an investment. Some people spend thousands on golf clubs, or home entertainment, or clothes. I am a simple person with simple wants, which include my school and my car. I dont mind dropping a few grand into something that I enjoy so much.

But I know of the feeling. My brother was the same way when he went to tally up the reciepts from his 65 mustang. He invested a lot. Its really cherry, but its not that nice... He's never going to see that money again .

I would rather put 10 grand into my own teener.....



Let's try a poll for how much each member has in his car. Add you time at minimum wage....

MattR is right on. This is therapy, not an investment.

So far, for me, I have like 1200 for initial price. About a thousand in engine parts. 300 in suspension and brakes. Oh yeah, and its still on blocks

Overall, I think I'd be lucky if I put in 5-6 grand for the car I want.

My time? Yikes. Well Ive spent about 3 weekends solid of not leaving my garage and probably another 3 of casual work since I got my car in late Feb. In total maybe a hundred hours? Times 7 bucks = a small fraction of time Im going to spend on my car

Nah, more a "wallet is mostly empty" kinda guy.

Please don't make me do that Howard.

I've had my car for over 18 yrs! Lord's know how many hours I've could possibly put into her!