yellowporky
Sep 3 2011, 10:31 PM
I thought is was time to start a build thread now that it is clear the car will be completed.
The project started as a 1975 1.8 in good condition. Here are the specs for the car.
- Audi 2.7tt v6 with Vems standalone ecu
- Boxster (Audi 012) 5-speed transmission
- F&R suspension from 993
This is how the car has sat for about 10 years
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JRust
Sep 3 2011, 10:43 PM
Looks like you have your work cut out for you. The build sounds cool though. I think Rohar up in WA is doing an Audi motor too. Congrats on doing something out of the norm. Love to see your progress pics as you go along
rohar
Sep 3 2011, 10:51 PM
Yup sitting on two Audi motors now
The 2.7 is a nice choice assuming the rings are still good. People tend to run the snot out of them, but I don't blame them. What're you planning for half shafts?
edit: I just noticed this part "F&R suspension from 993" I have a feeling where this is gonna go. Good on ya!
yellowporky
Sep 3 2011, 10:54 PM
rohar
Sep 3 2011, 11:00 PM
That is beautiful. Two questions: Why is your exhaust pipe sticking out where the front bumper should be?
How do you expect to live through the shake down?
rick 918-S
Sep 3 2011, 11:00 PM
Nice!
Mike Bellis
Sep 3 2011, 11:21 PM
Very Cool! I will have to come visit you sometime...
yellowporky
Sep 3 2011, 11:40 PM
I guess my pics are to large so I will make multiple posts. These will be some of the underside of the car.
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yellowporky
Sep 3 2011, 11:41 PM
yellowporky
Sep 3 2011, 11:44 PM
One of my favorite angles
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yellowporky
Sep 3 2011, 11:45 PM
yellowporky
Sep 3 2011, 11:52 PM
Almost ready to drive. Waiting on the calipers to get back from the powder coater and some final programing of the ecu. Seems strange to see it as a whole car after 12 years of pieces in boxes.
The builder has already had it running but I have not heard it yet. I can't wait to hear it.
rohar- the half shafts are boxster, no mods required
If anyone local wants to stop in for a peek let me know.
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yellowporky
Sep 3 2011, 11:55 PM
So now where does the top go?
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cwpeden
Sep 4 2011, 01:13 AM
Any concern for the plastic tail light buckets right next to the exhaust?
mark21742
Sep 4 2011, 03:29 AM
Beautiful build! Can't wait to see this when It's finished!
nsr-jamie
Sep 4 2011, 05:57 AM
Wow! That engine looks pretty good in there....how many HP are you talking about? First time to see something like this...please make sure you complete the project and show us all with lots of pictures. We like pictures
Vysoc
Sep 4 2011, 06:13 AM
I guess my golf clubs will have to go on the passenger seat.
That is A LOT OF ACTION - wow.
Have fun!!
Vysoc
abnrdo
Sep 4 2011, 08:44 AM
Awesome work. Cant wait to see more!!
Mike Bellis
Sep 4 2011, 09:50 AM
What I see is very impressive. I can hardly wait to see it in person. Only 20 miles away!
yellowporky
Sep 4 2011, 10:18 AM
We will be addressing any heat issues like the proximity of the plastic tail lights as we complete the car.
I believe that it is going to be around 325hp on pump gas.
The reason that I waited so long to start the thread is that I wanted to be sure that the car was actually going to be completed.
I will keep updating progress.
Thanks for the possitive comments,
Chris
veltror
Sep 4 2011, 10:42 AM
Stunning, this really is the dogs bollocks
rohar
Sep 4 2011, 11:59 AM
So after sleeping over my visceral excitement, I've got a few questions. Where'd you source the fuel tank? Looks like you ran cooling lines down the center tunnel, what are you doing for insulation around them? What did you do for a clutch pedal solution?
yellowporky
Sep 4 2011, 02:36 PM
I forgot to mention that we retained the power brakes and power steering of the 993. the pedal assembly is stock 993 so the hydraulic clutch was straight forward.
The fuel tank is 964/993 and bolts in to the stock 993 pan as does the pedals, brake fluid reservoir.
jimkelly
Sep 4 2011, 02:50 PM
why are all the most insane fabricators in CA?
that is looking sweet : )
jim
rohar
Sep 4 2011, 02:54 PM
I love the build so far. Guess I'm REALLY gonna have to step up my game this winter with all the amazing builds happening lately.
Mike Bellis
Sep 4 2011, 03:45 PM
okieflyr
Sep 4 2011, 06:20 PM
That is really cool! Is this going to be a street car? or track only? I am interested to see how you did the pwr brake setup. I couldn't see any bead flair on your coolant tubes. I ran mine through the console as well and it definitely cleans up the bottom of the car.
yellowporky
Sep 4 2011, 07:04 PM
This is going to be a street car and maybe occasional autocross. We will run it on the track to test it out but not to compete.
All of the coolant lines were beaded in place using an earls ez-beader.
The power steering was straight forward (if there is such a thing) using the pump that came on the engine and the rack that was included with the front suspension. We used a 993 reservoir that you can see mounted in the engine compartment behind driver.
rohar
Sep 4 2011, 07:14 PM
QUOTE(okieflyr @ Sep 4 2011, 05:20 PM)
That is really cool! Is this going to be a street car? or track only? I am interested to see how you did the pwr brake setup. I couldn't see any bead flair on your coolant tubes. I ran mine through the console as well and it definitely cleans up the bottom of the car.
That's the next decision on mine. How's the heat coming from the console? I've got some terrible ideas for insulation if you notice it at all.
okieflyr
Sep 4 2011, 07:47 PM
Chris, where did you mount and link the vac booster for the brake system? Did you eliminate the ABS? I used the Earls bead tool as well when I had the steel lines. I've since gone to silicone coolant lines that are insulated inside the console.
Rohar, I do get a little bit of heat wafting. I don't think it is so much from the lines directly, as much as the air and vaccum dynamics pulling around the less than perfect body sealing. Engine heat is playing a role as well. The slight amount I do get is welcome on cool mornings and evenings with the top off. It's not much fun in the sun when it is 85* plus. Overall the heater core works well to clear the fog on the windshield on rainy days, and comfort in the winter.
yellowporky
Sep 4 2011, 07:54 PM
The booster is included with the 993 front suspension.
Yes we eliminated the abs.
rohar
Sep 4 2011, 07:55 PM
QUOTE(okieflyr @ Sep 4 2011, 06:47 PM)
Chris, where did you mount and link the vac booster for the brake system? Did you eliminate the ABS? I used the Earls bead tool as well when I had the steel lines. I've since gone to silicone coolant lines that are insulated inside the console.
Rohar, I do get a little bit of heat wafting. I don't think it is so much from the lines directly, as much as the air and vaccum dynamics pulling around the less than perfect body sealing. Engine heat is playing a role as well. The slight amount I do get is welcome on cool mornings and evenings with the top off. It's not much fun in the sun when it is 85* plus. Overall the heater core works well to clear the fog on the windshield on rainy days, and comfort in the winter.
Not to threadjack, but it seems we're all in the same boat. I'm pretty much convinced my cooling is going down the tunnel. I'll take the top off it and push some steel tubes right through the middle.
I'm a little concerned about the heat in the cabin, so I intend to cover it with insulated pieces made of pearlite and silicone. Pearlite is an awesome refractory an light as hell. I'll add just enough silicone to keep it together. All the heat should exit under the car.
Mike Bellis
Sep 4 2011, 08:13 PM
You could do a simple ghetto insulation. Get some rolls of heavy paper and Aluminum foil. then wrap several alternating layers; Aluminum, paper, Aluminum, paper... Wrap it tight and put 6-7 layers on it. Works very well. I would also recommend Aluminum electrical conduit for coolant tubes (available at electrical wholesale house) It will conduct less heat into the cabin than steel or copper.
rohar
Sep 4 2011, 08:24 PM
Meh, too hard and expensive. 1 bag of pearlite, $3 at the local garden shop. A tube of silicone, $8 at ACE. They're overly helpfull, when I walk in the door an "associate" asks me if he can help, I say yeah go get me a tube of pure silicon caulk an they do. I just realized they carry pearlite too. Guess I don't have to pull anything off the shelves. Mix until sticky and form. $11 for a lightweight thermal barrier seems like a good choice.
yellowporky
Sep 5 2011, 04:28 PM
Here is a photo of the gauges that north hollywood speedo did 10 years ago and then were set on the shelf until 6 months ago when they had to redo the speedo again for the electronic speedo and then the tac to add the boost gauge. The temp had to be changed to water from oil and also the oil tank level was changed to a voltage gauge.
This should be the final configuration.
The interior was done in tan leather and wool carpet about 10 years ago. Maybe will finally be installed this year.
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roadster fan
Sep 5 2011, 04:44 PM
Wow! Cant wait to see it in person. That is gonna be a fun ride!
Jim
rohar
Sep 5 2011, 05:30 PM
Great, now it's going to be pretty too. There's no point in competing against this one. Good on ya!
rohar
Sep 5 2011, 05:32 PM
Oh, and the redline on your tach seems a bit low and your speedo doesn't go high enough
yellowporky
Sep 5 2011, 05:39 PM
We realized the deficiencies in the gauges also but we are planning to have an on board computer to help track the actual speeds when being tested on the track. These gauges are for street driving.
We are planning a matte titanium paint job to keep things subtle.
I am hoping that the 930 flares will go on soon.
yellowporky
Sep 5 2011, 06:09 PM
I found the original wheelbase dimension on Pelican Parts
Wheelbase= 96 1/2"
New Wheelbase= 97 3/4"
One interesting thing that we notice when hooking up the steering column was that it was off center and pointing towards the center of the car. So with the 993 steering rack having the input on the driver side we were able to move the steerng column to the center of the driver seet and have it pointing strait forward.
So many things to remember to post.
yellowporky
Sep 9 2011, 11:39 PM
It felt like christmas today. I recieved the caliper rebuild kits from Bob at Sunset imports in Beaverton Or. Great prices compared to my local dealer and no sales tax.
I also picked up the calipers from the powder coater and they look amazing. Now I need to remember where I put the Porshce decals for them.
Then when I got home I had an email from Marc Swanson at EFI Express that had the base programing for the ecu. Marc is a great guy and very helpfull.
Very excited for this week, maybe I will get to hear the car run.
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bigkensteele
Sep 10 2011, 12:01 AM
It doesn't look like there is any room in the front for a spare. How will you power you windshield washers???
Yes, I am joking. Incredible build! Can't wait to see this unfold.
Cheapsnake
Sep 10 2011, 05:32 PM
Looks like excellent engineering and workmanship. That engine/tranny install is a work of art. Did you replace any of the structure/stiffness lost with the removal of the trunk floor?
Tom
yellowporky
Sep 10 2011, 06:29 PM
Thanks for the positive comments. The 993 subframe adds stability to the rear end and the builder added lots of reinforcements to the chassis. You would need to see it in person to really appreciate the detail and engineering.
All of the weight of the engine and trans sit on the suspension now instead of the hanging from the frame. Look at where the motor and trans mounts are located in relation to the pick up points for the rear sub frame. No more trying to fold the rear of the car with the trailing arms.
yellowporky
Sep 13 2011, 10:51 AM
I have allways wanted big red calipers on my 914.
One step closer to driving.
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Chris Pincetich
Sep 13 2011, 01:46 PM
can't wait to see this monster on some NorCal roads
Chris Pincetich
Sep 13 2011, 01:50 PM
QUOTE(Chris Scott @ Sep 3 2011, 10:55 PM)
So now where does the top go?
Click to view attachmentCan you get heat resistant lexan to cover the rear? Why hide all that?
yellowporky
Sep 13 2011, 02:03 PM
Most likely there will be some large ducts in the rear lid that you will be able to see in but primarily
so the car will not get sucked off of the road at over 130mph like a normal 914. My buddy who is building this in my garage is a pilot and general all around einstien so I feel confident he will make it stick even if we have to run a wing on the track when we test it.
yellowporky
Sep 14 2011, 08:06 PM
Here are a couple shots of the front suspension all cleaned up and put back together
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jaxdream
Sep 15 2011, 07:22 AM
Dem big hairy a$$ rotors !!!!! Ruuufff !
As close as you are to Bonneville , it would be a hoot to see what you could get there !!!
Jack
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