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racerbvd

Sep 17 2011, 09:55 PM

hot_shoe914

Sep 17 2011, 09:58 PM

Very Nice!

Spoke

Sep 17 2011, 10:00 PM

Sweet! Not bad for a weekend's work for you and your friends & neighbors.

bigkensteele

Sep 17 2011, 10:05 PM

Nice! Trying to figure out where the recliner and big-screen will be situated... Will it be air-conditioned?

cary

Sep 17 2011, 10:25 PM

Nice, Byron. How many square feet?

racerbvd

Sep 17 2011, 10:39 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Sep 17 2011, 09:25 PM)

Nice, Byron. How many square feet?

1,200...

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Nice! Trying to figure out where the recliner and big-screen will be situated... Will it be air-conditioned?

All in do time, got to set up the lift & compressers, but will be working on the lay out first, with the 12' walls, thinking a projector and a screen painted wall

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Been a long time project with many set backs, both the shop & my health and still have a few more things to go before I can really set it up, including a another vintage Coke machine to keep my drinks cool

rick 918-S

Sep 17 2011, 11:19 PM

Nice!

Eric_Shea

Sep 17 2011, 11:34 PM

What did you have to trade for all that?

Lou W

Sep 18 2011, 12:48 AM

Very Nice

JRust

Sep 18 2011, 01:28 AM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Sep 17 2011, 10:34 PM)

What did you have to trade for all that?

Nice

. Seriously sweet man cave Chris. Congrats

MikeSpraggi

Sep 18 2011, 02:27 AM

A cave indeed! Looking great Byron. When's the open house ....err... cave date??? Must be broken in properly

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JawjaPorsche

Sep 18 2011, 06:06 AM

Every men needs a Man Cave like this! You are very lucky! Your wife will never see you again!

TheCabinetmaker

Sep 18 2011, 06:40 AM

A crane for 4 12 pitch trusses? What a bunch of wimps!

Seriously, nice looking building. How you gonna treat the inside walls?

Zimms

Sep 18 2011, 07:21 AM

Congratulations! It will fill up fast!

Cairo94507

Sep 18 2011, 07:25 AM

Now that is the way to build a garage. That is very cool. I look forward to seeing how you set it up.

JmuRiz

Sep 18 2011, 08:27 AM

Wow, great space! That's a lot of friggin' block.

McMark

Sep 18 2011, 10:47 AM

So cool!

Thestigz06

Sep 18 2011, 11:15 AM

Mancave build thread????

Tom_T

Sep 18 2011, 11:36 AM

What was your total budget for that - not counting equipment, entertainment, toys, etc. - just the construction costs?

I assume you have hurricane tie-downs from the CMU walls to roof trusses?

messix

Sep 18 2011, 01:05 PM

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Sep 18 2011, 10:36 AM)

What was your total budget for that - not counting equipment, entertainment, toys, etc. - just the construction costs?

I assume you have hurricane tie-downs from the CMU walls to roof trusses?

naw... he'll justr throw a blue tarp over it to hold it down!

ellisor3

Sep 18 2011, 01:57 PM

Very Nice Byron,

Let me know if you need help installing the TAP

pdlightning

Sep 18 2011, 02:46 PM

QUOTE(racerbvd @ Sep 17 2011, 09:39 PM)

QUOTE(cary @ Sep 17 2011, 09:25 PM)

Nice, Byron. How many square feet?

1,200...

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Nice! Trying to figure out where the recliner and big-screen will be situated... Will it be air-conditioned?

All in do time, got to set up the lift & compressers, but will be working on the lay out first, with the 12' walls, thinking a projector and a screen painted wall

.

Been a long time project with many set backs, both the shop & my health and still have a few more things to go before I can really set it up, including a another vintage Coke machine to keep my drinks cool

Is the compressor going outside and plumbed through the wall? In a covered area, you won't have to hear it run and it doesn't take up space in the CAVE!

Drums66

Sep 18 2011, 03:44 PM

.....That looks cool & weather proofed(brick)

enjoy!!

trojanhorsepower

Sep 18 2011, 04:36 PM

Very nice Byron!

I have just started mine and can't wait for it to be done. Keep the pictures coming.

-Peter

FourBlades

Sep 18 2011, 05:01 PM

Congratulations man!

Looks like the dream set up.

All you need is one working toilet somewhere on the property and you can tear the rest of the house down.

John

PanelBilly

Sep 18 2011, 08:18 PM

Too cool.

racerbvd

Sep 18 2011, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(pdlightning @ Sep 18 2011, 01:46 PM)

QUOTE(racerbvd @ Sep 17 2011, 09:39 PM)

QUOTE(cary @ Sep 17 2011, 09:25 PM)

Nice, Byron. How many square feet?

1,200...

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Nice! Trying to figure out where the recliner and big-screen will be situated... Will it be air-conditioned?

All in do time, got to set up the lift & compressers, but will be working on the lay out first, with the 12' walls, thinking a projector and a screen painted wall

.

Been a long time project with many set backs, both the shop & my health and still have a few more things to go before I can really set it up, including a another vintage Coke machine to keep my drinks cool

Is the compressor going outside and plumbed through the wall? In a covered area, you won't have to hear it run and it doesn't take up space in the CAVE!

Yes sir.. The compressors (I have 2, one out of the HSM race shop, along with the lift from that shop) will go on this corner and I'll build a cover for em..

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What was your total budget for that - not counting equipment, entertainment, toys, etc. - just the construction costs?

I assume you have hurricane tie-downs from the CMU walls to roof trusses?

Well, it went WAY over budget as it required a LOT of concrete.. And yes, everything is built above code and since I couldn't build any taller (dang Town

) the trusses were engineered to also support hanging shelves (loft like) to maximize storage space while keeping the floors open for other things.. A buddy designed the set up

The double 2x8 bottom chord trusses will each support a direct download of 2,250 lbs, at 3' -7 5/8" from each wall. However, the download strength of the 3/8" threaded rod in the sample hanger I created for you is only rated at 2,105 lbs.

Is the 2,105 lb load sufficient for your needs, or should we increase to a 1/2" diameter threaded rod that will support 3,750 lbs?

Note:
Approximate normal floor loading design criteria for the main floor of a home is about 50 lbs per square foot (10.3 psf dead load, 40 psf live load). The 3/8" rod I've proposed and used in my sample would provide your loft shelves the equivalent of 386 lbs per square foot.

Let me know your thoughts as to which rod you'd prefer. We'll just have to ensure my bracket at the end of the threaded rod will also be able to equally support the 2,105 lb load the trusses can support.
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biggy72

Sep 18 2011, 11:12 PM

Threaded rods huh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse ..... just kidding

properly designed threaded rods are more than adequate. I'm definitely jealous.

smontanaro

Sep 19 2011, 08:59 AM

Wow, not just a man cave, a Man Cave Bomb Shelter! I guess you have some problems with bugs gnawing on wood and the occasional stiff breeze down there in Sunny FL...

6freak

Sep 19 2011, 09:39 AM

dont see any hurrican clips on the trusses ?maybe not required !like here in Washington State aint that funny..and no wire mess on the slab ?maybe not required .....very nice place with lots of room to move

i know you will injoy it when its complete

Cairo94507

Sep 19 2011, 05:22 PM

Hey I didn't even notice there is no re-bar grids in the pad. Here in CA you could never get away with that with all of the earthquakes we have here.

Tom_T

Sep 19 2011, 07:06 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:22 PM)

Hey I didn't even notice there is no re-bar grids in the pad. Here in CA you could never get away with that with all of the earthquakes we have here.

Rebar is mostly in expansive soils within the slab (rebar should be in the footings & column pads though), 4x4 WWM is more common on a house or garage slab. If it's 6"+ slab here in CA, then there's an exemption for no vapor barrier & no rebar/WWM in the slab. I know cuz when we competitively bid for the SoCal National Archives, our competitor under bid us by leaving out stuff like that, & that's a warehouse for storing critical PAPER records! We protested & warned the NARA PM, but he let it slide!

He'll still have uplift & lateral forces to contend with from the hurricanes taken by the rebar from the footings & up the CMU cells, but he had an SE do the plans for him, so I'm sure hell be okay with that.

At least Byron, you could go up some, my city won't let me change anything or I have to tear down & rebuild the 1921 garage, because when the school district took the surrounding farm property for a high school in the 1950's, they set the side property line at only 2'!!!!

racerbvd

Sep 19 2011, 07:17 PM

QUOTE(6freak @ Sep 19 2011, 08:39 AM)

dont see any hurrican clips on the trusses ?maybe not required !like here in Washington State aint that funny..and no wire mess on the slab ?maybe not required .....very nice place with lots of room to move

i know you will injoy it when its complete

Yes, the slab has the rebar, mesh & vapor barrier ( I have those pix somewhere, and the well over a foot thick, 2 foot in some areas

) everything was done to the ever changing & present FL. code, including the hurrican clips,

Plus, it still isn't finished, getting closer & checking for camera angles..

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Wow, not just a man cave, a Man Cave Bomb Shelter!

Yep, I wanted a secure place for my 914-6s & other cars (plan on 2 lifts) cause I may still move to Portland, and if I do, I won't bew able to take all my toys

and yes, I installing camera in different spots

I want my cars & bikes safe..

914_teener

Sep 19 2011, 07:31 PM

QUOTE(racerbvd @ Sep 19 2011, 06:17 PM)

QUOTE(6freak @ Sep 19 2011, 08:39 AM)

dont see any hurrican clips on the trusses ?maybe not required !like here in Washington State aint that funny..and no wire mess on the slab ?maybe not required .....very nice place with lots of room to move

i know you will injoy it when its complete

Yes, the slab has the rebar, mesh & vapor barrier ( I have those pix somewhere, and the well over a foot thick, 2 foot in some areas

) everything was done to the ever changing & present FL. code, including the hurrican clips,

Plus, it still isn't finished, getting closer & checking for camera angles..

QUOTE

Wow, not just a man cave, a Man Cave Bomb Shelter!

Yep, I wanted a secure place for my 914-6s & other cars (plan on 2 lifts) cause I may still move to Portland, and if I do, I won't bew able to take all my toys

and yes, I installing camera in different spots

I want my cars & bikes safe..

Very cool Man Cave my man.

But......in Cali....I'll stand outside and drink beer! I know everybody worries about winds in Florida and those trusses will resist the wind.....as the engineering says....but.....

It those walls to the foundations that worry me. In California you have to tie those walls in laterally and horizontally. I don't see that anywhere in the CMU build. Do they let you wet set or post drill those dowels in? It won't hurt to load those walls with more static load from your stuff!

racerbvd

Sep 19 2011, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Sep 19 2011, 06:31 PM)

QUOTE(racerbvd @ Sep 19 2011, 06:17 PM)

QUOTE(6freak @ Sep 19 2011, 08:39 AM)

dont see any hurrican clips on the trusses ?maybe not required !like here in Washington State aint that funny..and no wire mess on the slab ?maybe not required .....very nice place with lots of room to move

i know you will injoy it when its complete

Yes, the slab has the rebar, mesh & vapor barrier ( I have those pix somewhere, and the well over a foot thick, 2 foot in some areas

)
This was the 1st pour, course it was thicker than this from the start, but this slab wasn't level, so it was added too (the pour pictured..
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everything was done to the ever changing & present FL. code, including the hurrican clips,

Plus, it still isn't finished, getting closer & checking for camera angles..

QUOTE

Wow, not just a man cave, a Man Cave Bomb Shelter!

Yep, I wanted a secure place for my 914-6s & other cars (plan on 2 lifts) cause I may still move to Portland, and if I do, I won't bew able to take all my toys

and yes, I installing camera in different spots

I want my cars & bikes safe..

Very cool Man Cave my man.

But......in Cali....I'll stand outside and drink beer! I know everybody worries about winds in Florida and those trusses will resist the wind.....as the engineering says....but.....

It those walls to the foundations that worry me. In California you have to tie those walls in laterally and horizontally. I don't see that anywhere in the CMU build. Do they let you wet set or post drill those dowels in? It won't hurt to load those walls with more static load from your stuff!

Rebar rising
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This guy is bolting down the top plate, 1" screws that were set when the concrete was poured..
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After the trusses were set, they went back over with more fasteners..

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Cat 2 legal..
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Like I said, there are multiple truss designs in this roof

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At least Byron, you could go up some,

Actually, I can't, I'm as I as the town will let me go, unless I raise the roof on my house (don't laugh, I wanted to do this, but the funds & tiing weren't there

) and a metal building wasn't a choice either, as the town doesn't allow those eitheer

Before I broke ground, I spent a lot of time at the Town Hall getting premitted and jumped through many hoops, plus, the "Town" is very small only ,5.6 sq miles, of which, 3.9 square miles of it is land and 1.6 square miles of it is water. so there are drive bys every day (not a bad thing, they have been doing that since I bought here in 95 and the guy who does likes to stop & BS with me when I'm out..

Cairo94507

Sep 19 2011, 08:27 PM

It is an incredible garage and I am way jealous. Congratulations.

nsr-jamie

Sep 19 2011, 09:43 PM

Nice !! Your garage is bigger than my home

orange914

Sep 19 2011, 10:45 PM

QUOTE(nsr-jamie @ Sep 19 2011, 08:43 PM)

Nice !! Your garage is bigger than my home

bigger than the town I live in.

NICE, I'm jealous!

sixnotfour

Sep 19 2011, 11:23 PM

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Yep, I wanted a secure place for my 914-6s & other cars (plan on 2 lifts) cause I may still move to Portland,

Portland Oregon ? or Portland Maine ?

I have 1250 and it is not enough.

914_teener

Sep 20 2011, 12:30 AM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Sep 19 2011, 10:23 PM)

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Yep, I wanted a secure place for my 914-6s & other cars (plan on 2 lifts) cause I may still move to Portland,

Portland Oregon ? or Portland Maine ?

I have 1250 and it is not enough.

Looks great. I see the horizontal ties. Here they would want way more steel here because of the quakes.

No disrespect I hope.....probably the last thing ya want to hear after all the effort and money is to hear some other engineer question your cool Man Cave.

Job is done.

Enjoy the fruits....I would step inside anytime.

Congratulations!

racerbvd

Nov 22 2011, 06:30 PM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Sep 19 2011, 11:30 PM)

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Sep 19 2011, 10:23 PM)

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Yep, I wanted a secure place for my 914-6s & other cars (plan on 2 lifts) cause I may still move to Portland,

Portland Oregon ? or Portland Maine ?

I have 1250 and it is not enough.

Looks great. I see the horizontal ties. Here they would want way more steel here because of the quakes.

No disrespect I hope.....probably the last thing ya want to hear after all the effort and money is to hear some other engineer question your cool Man Cave.

Job is done.

Enjoy the fruits....I would step inside anytime.

Congratulations!

And you are welcome inside any time as well..

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3d914

Nov 22 2011, 06:53 PM

Now you built that just for 914s - right!

AREA-914

URY914

Nov 22 2011, 07:20 PM

I like the split-face block and the coiling door. STRONG stuff.

Krieger

Nov 22 2011, 07:37 PM

Very Nice!

Van

Nov 23 2011, 11:33 AM

More like a man-fortress!