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tornik550
Has anyone had an issue with piston to valve clearance issues with a2250 or 2270 build that had 44mm intake valves? Just curious. As far as I know, I am not having this issue however I haven't fully checked yet. If you did, how did you rectify the issue.

VaccaRabite
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Jake Raby
With that cam you will be very close to interference at 8*ATDC on the intake side. Yes you really should verify what you have for clearance.. Because in engine building you assume nothing and quantify everything.
tornik550
I went out and checked and I have .053" clearance which is obviously not enough (IIRC should be greater than .100). What are my options now? I have KB flat topped pistons (from t4store).

Can I simply have the pistons pocketed (not sure of the correct term)? I am sending most of my setup to the shop this week so it would be perfect timing if that is an option?
Jake Raby
Thats one of the issues with that cam.. It has a really fast ramp that causes these issues. You will have to pocket the pistons.
tornik550
QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Sep 25 2011, 10:00 PM) *

You will have to pocket the pistons.



Do you think I can do that with a dremel tool? lol-2.gif Of coarse- I am just kidding!
SirAndy
QUOTE(tornik550 @ Sep 25 2011, 07:04 PM) *
Do you think I can do that with a dremel tool?

You should have seen some of the things we used to do to our dirt-bike engines back in the day.

We used to run them lean to get more power but that also meant a lot of burnt through holes in the pistons.
The common fix at the track for that was a rounded flat-head bolt with short threads double nutted from the back.
Usually got you through the rest of the race!
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Dr Evil
Man, you have all kinds of issues smile.gif You really need me to come help wink.gif
Matt Romanowski
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 25 2011, 06:20 PM) *

QUOTE(tornik550 @ Sep 25 2011, 07:04 PM) *
Do you think I can do that with a dremel tool?

You should have seen some of the things we used to do to our dirt-bike engines back in the day.

We used to run them lean to get more power but that also meant a lot of burnt through holes in the pistons.
The common fix at the track for that was a rounded flat-head bolt with short threads double nutted from the back.
Usually got you through the rest of the race!
smash.gif

biggrin.gif


If you tore it down that far and always had problems, why wouldn't you just carry an extra piston and replace it?

As for the OP, yes, I had trouble clearance problems. You have to machine the pistons. I've done it with a 44 mm end mill and tilted the head on a mill to make really nice pockets. I've also just used a ball endmill to make the pickets. The ball endmill is easier and just as good.
tornik550
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Sep 25 2011, 11:21 PM) *

Man, you have all kinds of issues smile.gif You really need me to come help wink.gif


Where are you planning on going after residency? I've got space here!
r_towle
QUOTE(Matt Romanowski @ Sep 26 2011, 12:06 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 25 2011, 06:20 PM) *

QUOTE(tornik550 @ Sep 25 2011, 07:04 PM) *
Do you think I can do that with a dremel tool?

You should have seen some of the things we used to do to our dirt-bike engines back in the day.

We used to run them lean to get more power but that also meant a lot of burnt through holes in the pistons.
The common fix at the track for that was a rounded flat-head bolt with short threads double nutted from the back.
Usually got you through the rest of the race!
smash.gif

biggrin.gif


If you tore it down that far and always had problems, why wouldn't you just carry an extra piston and replace it?


Cause he was a broke kid at that time....lol
Rich
SirAndy
QUOTE(r_towle @ Sep 26 2011, 09:57 AM) *

QUOTE(Matt Romanowski @ Sep 26 2011, 12:06 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 25 2011, 06:20 PM) *

QUOTE(tornik550 @ Sep 25 2011, 07:04 PM) *
Do you think I can do that with a dremel tool?

You should have seen some of the things we used to do to our dirt-bike engines back in the day.

We used to run them lean to get more power but that also meant a lot of burnt through holes in the pistons.
The common fix at the track for that was a rounded flat-head bolt with short threads double nutted from the back.
Usually got you through the rest of the race!
smash.gif

biggrin.gif


If you tore it down that far and always had problems, why wouldn't you just carry an extra piston and replace it?


Cause he was a broke kid at that time....lol
Rich

Yupp, Rich nailed it. I was 16 at the time. My dad had loaned me some money to buy the dirt bike but maintenance and repair was up to me.

I was living off 300 DM a month working as a apprentice chimney sweeper ...
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