just curious. anyone btdt? any dental professionals out there?
its not wired shut...... plates being put in, to correct an underbite.... , should lose some poundage

later guys...

your brave,

keep your chin up.

dr

nice pun

and I just posted about your braces in the teener thread...

Let me know how it goes. I'm supposed to don braces for 1.5 years, get my jaw broken, then wired shut for 6wks, then braces finally come off 6mos after that.

Are you close to long beach? I'm vistiting my brother this weekend. Maybe we can stop by and be hungry with you. Misery loves company.

Good luck tomorrow.

Jen

long beach is about an hour away from corona, but thanks for the offer . If youre as cool as youre brother than id love to meet you

aaron

how do they break your jaw?

cousin guido and a louisville slugger , i actually dont know

From what I understand they saw the jawbone in 1/2 and slide the out part forward and the use screws to put it in place. I would like to straighten my teeth but they say they would have to move my jaw forward afterwards because I would have a large overbite. My top teeth tilt back currently but if straightend they would tilt slightly forward creating a space between my top and bottom teeth.

It was funny the first time I went to the orthodontist. They had me fill out a form that was obviously meant for someone younger. One question was "Has his voice changed?" so I asked the cute dental assistant "From when? This morning?" They then asked if I was happy with my profile which was something I've never been concerned about before. The doctor told me I was fortunate to have a really huge jaw (one of the biggest he has seen apparantly) and a decent "chin nub" because with my overbite I should have a recessed chin. So I asked if what he was telling me was that I had the jawbone of an ass. He laughed but I don't think he knew how to answer right away.

The only thing stopping me from getting the braces is the jaw surgury. I am told there is a risk of losing all sensation in your lower lip due to nerve damage. It would sort of be like the freezing you get at the dentist only it would be permanent.


Good luck and let us know how everything works out. Maybe if it works for you I will reconsider getting mine done.

nerve damage possiblilty is far less with hinged plate surgery, as opposed to wired jaw surgery. That's what my oral surgeon said about 2mos ago when I had my consultation. Don't know the specifics of it all though. I think he was trying to explain it in layman terms. Too bad it still doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

Jen

the nerve damage can fix itself too. I had a facial injury and lost all feeling on one side of my face from my upper cheek bone down past my jaw to my neck. it was like being totally frozen by the dentist. it was like this for a little over a month and then one morning I woke up and it was all gone (a couple days before my facial surgery appt!).

I had the top jaw done(too narrow) and a friend is getting the same thing that you are... not fun, hang in there!

I broke my jaw (on a diving board) and had it wired shut.

The best thing I found was to blend rasberrry shorbet and 7-Up together and suck it down with a straw.

Haven't had the desire to have it since, but remember it was damn good.

Best of luck.

Aaron

Good luck. I've had about 5 patients that have had similar procedures done. None have had any nerve damage but the possiblity exists. Actually, that can happen from an injection and happens relatively frequently with wisdom tooth removal. The point is that there are risks with everything. We have to tell people all of the potential complications even thought they do not happen often. Things will be fine.

Follow the surgeons instructions. Even if you feel great take it easy (you won't swell as much) and take your meds. Pain meds work best if you use them on schedule, and they don't have start all over again killing a lot of pain. Fruit smoothies. Also some of the body building drinks will get you lots of calories.

The patients I have had do that surgery have had dramatic results and love their new look. It's almost as good as a new paint job.

Dave

all milkshakes you can drink without guilt. i'll have a t-bone and be thinking of you.

kevin

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I could teach you
But I have to charge

I remember in junior high school, in a P.E. class, a group of us were playing touch football. One guy was going long for a pass with a defender close behind. The pass was out of bounds, but they kept going. The reciever touched the ball and the defender gave him a tag-push right into a pole next to the field. Major impact. Broken jaw, but no concussion. Lots of blood from oral lacerations. He came back to school a few days later with his jaw wired shut. That was a big event for everyone in that class!

Good luck to everyone planning on having their jaws broken this year. The kidney stone and subsequent removal by scope this past spring was enough medical excitement for me this year!

Good luck Aaron, you can do it!!!! If you need anything you know where to reach me. Mark

thanks guys! i got a very good surgeon. so...

I'm goin in! . i'll be in the hospital 2 nights. but ill check email if i can. thanks again guys/gals

good luck! We'll be thinkin' of you!

Jen

Keep us posted too! I may be having the same thing done... actually, the reverse. My lower jaw sticks out too far so my bite is off. My upper and lower teeth collide. It doesn't sound like fun.

Good luck Aaron!

Good luck!

I just had some wisdom teeth cut out this morning. That Percoset (sp?) stuff is pretty impressive!

Oh yeah, the obligitory

OUCH!

I hope that worked out well Aron.

I had jaw advancement for severe obstructed sleep apnea a few years ago. They moved the top and bottom forward 10mm and then pinned, plated, and wired everything up. It was a real bitch. Should get the braces off by the end of this year. Got any questions, send me an email. Get used to drinking ensure. Good luck.

hey! im back!!! 2 nights in hospital

omg.. my face is huge! pics to follow. ( "i'm fat albert!" )not too bad otherwise. morphine baby!

GOOD JOB you made it through. I don't think I can veiw the picture. I am glad to see you are doing well. Mark

illl take some pics of my face 3x larger than normal

'heh hey hey, im fat albert!"

some bitchin stuff you can drink through a syringe! instant breafast, ensure, juice...the possibilities are endless!

im doing good. havw braces for 4 months after this and then voila! straight teeth once and for all!!!!

hey. help me come up with some recipes that i can blend through a straw!

I got one for you, take a nice tender filet mignon and some mashed potatoes and gravy, put it all together in a juicer. get the big thick straws like Jack in Crack used to use and you can have a nice meal in a cup.

Tequila & juice.

Jello and pudding...

Mix them up or get them a little more liquidy... Thats what I survived on when taking wisdom teath out. Speeking of straws, you can suck things through your straw?

Mash potatoes with lots of extra sour cream.

Whip cream for desert

You'll recover fast.

Andrew


PS I have one word for you... AUDIOBOOKS
I suggest the Narnia series..

Jello shots........



....... hold the jello.

JUICE IT UP!!! With Met-rx, Miquels BRC in a Blender, In and Out with each item in seperate cup. Wait don't do #2 Or #3 it sounds wrong. Sorry I did not want to be mean, you will just enjoy them more later. How about a 914 meeting at Miguels when you are ready.

Mark

im gettin creative! i have a pic. ill post it in a minute or so.

We will say a prayer for you Aaron. Remember, no driving the 914 while taking vicodan/percoset.
L. McC

Hey, hey, hey Soupeater!

Welcome back...

hey hey hey, its fat aaron! (more chins than a chineese phonebook)

Daaaanng...

I had "some" swelling, but thats just crazy.. But hey, you did surgery on jaw.. I did it on 4 little teath..

I'll see if I can find a pic of how I helped the swelling..

Andrew

Aight, found it...

Get some of that bandage tape, two clean/new socks, and some gel ice packs. put the ice packs in the socks, and bandage the tape on your head. Really helped keep the swelling and the pain down. I barely used any pain killers.

hey guys quick update:

doin great, most swelling is gone. found a blender favorate.... spaghetti meatballs and pasta thru a blender (awesome!)

Hey Aaron,
Sorry man, just read this tread. Would have came to visit you in the hospital.

Anywho, glad you did well. I know someones daughter who will be going throught that soon.

You doing Ok?

Here are a couple of recipe ideas for you:

*Steam some milk (or heat it in the microwave but it really isn't the same) and add a tablespoon or two of instant coffee granules and a packet of equal or other sweetener. For a little extra, add a couple drops of vinalla and/or coconut flavoring, then make it Frothy in a had blender.

*CHOCOLATE SHAKE
1 Frozen Banana
1/4th teaspoon BUTTER Flavoring
1/2 teaspoon Vanilla Flavoring
2 packets of the Sweet N Low
2 Tablsp. of Chocolate Syrup
enough Milk so that when you blend it you can drink it through a straw.

*HOT TODDY
8fl oz (220ml) skimmed milk
a few drops of vanilla extract
1/4 tsp ground nutmeg
Heat milk and vanilla together, transfer to a cup and sprinkle nutmeg on top. Serve hot.

*HOOLA JUICE
1, 12 oz. can Sprite
1/2 cup Natural Pineapple juice
1/4 cup Orange Juice
1 cup Cranberry juice
Mix together, serve over Ice.


ENJOY!!

I spent two hours in the Dentist chair this morning! I feel for you man!
Get better, and all of those dirnks above NEED RUM!

I should write these recipes down...I'm getting my tonsils out in a few weeks. But I only have to survive the liquid diet for a week.

Dude, Andrew, how did you come up with the stylin ice-pack look?

Mer