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Series9
Setting up Nelson's steering and find this. The shaft is too short.


How can that be? The suspension is all bolted up where it goes.


SirAndy
QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 21 2011, 10:04 AM) *
Setting up Nelson's steering and find this. The shaft is too short.
How can that be? The suspension is all bolted up where it goes.


It doesn't look like it's bolted up correctly. That rubber doughnut needs to come up much higher through that hole.

Did you install rack spacers? Did you forget the rearward bolts on the tabs for the steering rack? They need to be seated correctly. idea.gif
SirAndy
How about a pic of the other side of things? idea.gif
BajaXJ92
QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 21 2011, 01:04 PM) *

The shaft is too short.


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Sorry to hear, Nelson. unsure.gif
ruby914
Is that shaft a different length on a 911 compared to a 914?
SirAndy
QUOTE(ruby914 @ Dec 21 2011, 10:09 AM) *

Is that shaft a different length on a 911 compared to a 914?

Yes, it is. But that doesn't explain why the rubber doughnut does not come up far enough.
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Cap'n Krusty
Well, it has a different part number, indicating there's a difference of some kind.

The Cap'n
Series9
I'm sure I'm going to feel stupid when someone points out what's wrong, but sometimes you can't see for forest for the trees.

These are the exact same parts that were removed from the car.

The bolts in the rack are loose because I'm looking at this problem.



SirAndy
All the bolts need to be tight, including the two i marked in the pic.

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KELTY360
QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 21 2011, 10:04 AM) *

The shaft is too short.


That's what she said. happy11.gif
Series9
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 21 2011, 01:54 PM) *

All the bolts need to be tight, including the two i marked in the pic.

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They were. I pulled them out to mess with it. Trust me, that's not it.


But, just to be sure, I just put in all the bolts and tightened them up. No change. This thing is like 1.5" out of place.
sixnotfour
captn's right you have a 911 shaft.
ruby914
How long is your shaft? shades.gif lol-2.gif
montoya 73 2.0
QUOTE(BajaXJ92 @ Dec 21 2011, 10:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 21 2011, 01:04 PM) *

The shaft is too short.


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Sorry to hear, Nelson. unsure.gif



This thread went bad in a hurry! biggrin.gif
Madswede
QUOTE(BajaXJ92 @ Dec 21 2011, 11:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 21 2011, 01:04 PM) *

The shaft is too short.


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Sorry to hear, Nelson. unsure.gif

Dayum. Just got owned.gif dry.gif I'll remember this when the car's done! ar15.gif
SLITS
O'brien ... the bearing is in the correct location ... a plate goes over it. And inside that rubber you will find a caged roller bearing.

There is a length difference between the input shaft of a 911 and a 914 and I don't remember which one is shorter. I just use a 914 rack with the 911 suspension.
Series9
These are the parts that were driving this 914 when it arrived. I need a better explanation.
BMITCHELL
Did you have another rack out from a 911 at the time? Parts get comingled?
jimkelly
the answer is under the plastic cover : (

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ellisor3
Joe,
When I was there, I left you a steering rack I had left over from my project. Maybe they got mixed up. I am 99% certain it was a 914 rack though.
Series9
QUOTE(ellisor3 @ Dec 21 2011, 08:12 PM) *

Joe,
When I was there, I left you a steering rack I had left over from my project. Maybe they got mixed up. I am 99% certain it was a 914 rack though.




Holy crap. Maybe that's it.



More tomorrow......
scotty b
I know you said this is the rack that came out of it, BUT just to reinforce the fact that they have different shafts.......
scotty b
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BajaXJ92
Is that one of the 914 racks I gave you Scott?
sixnotfour
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Is that shaft a different length on a 911 compared to a 914?

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Well, it has a different part number, indicating there's a difference of some kind.

The Cap'n

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captn's right you have a 911 shaft.

QUOTE
O'brien ... the bearing is in the correct location ... a plate goes over it. And inside that rubber you will find a caged roller bearing.

There is a length difference between the input shaft of a 911 and a 914 and I don't remember which one is shorter. I just use a 914 rack with the 911 suspension.




Doesn't get much better, But A picture is worth a thousand words slap.gif

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I know you said this is the rack that came out of it, BUT just to reinforce the fact that they have different shafts.......


Carry On,
put your short shaft where it came from and put the longer one back in blink.gif
sixnotfour
QUOTE
Holy crap. Maybe that's it.



More tomorrow......




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M
ellisor3
QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 21 2011, 08:16 PM) *

QUOTE(ellisor3 @ Dec 21 2011, 08:12 PM) *

Joe,
When I was there, I left you a steering rack I had left over from my project. Maybe they got mixed up. I am 99% certain it was a 914 rack though.




Holy crap. Maybe that's it.



More tomorrow......

Makes sense Joe, I purchased a complete 911 front end, but I would have had to use my (MUCH LONGER) 914 shaft, and I probably attached the 911 one to the old 914 rack.
rnellums
I think it must be 911. The location of the raised shoulder for the rubber vibration damper is too high on the shaft for 914.
Series9
That has to be it. I forgot that James gave me a rack. I'll go over to storage in a little while.


Nothing like a little public stupidity to keep me humble. laugh.gif
SLITS
QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 22 2011, 05:47 AM) *

Nothing like a little public stupidity to keep me humble. laugh.gif


As a Class A raving lunatic, there is no need to be humble. You have a "Hall Pass".

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76-914
QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 22 2011, 05:47 AM) *

That has to be it. I forgot that James gave me a rack. I'll go over to storage in a little while.


Nothing like a little public stupidity to keep me humble. laugh.gif

No way. My dad always told me that the three smartest words a man can say is "I don't know."
Series9
That was it. blink.gif


Can we erase this thread? headbang.gif






Thanks guys. beerchug.gif
BMITCHELL
I think this is a good lesson for the guys swapping out their suspension.
Series9
QUOTE(BMITCHELL @ Dec 22 2011, 11:41 AM) *

I think this is a good lesson for the guys swapping out their suspension.

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Rav914
While you're there......

Replace that stock coupler with a solid one (I can't tell from the picture but you may have already). Really a great improvement IMO.
Madswede
QUOTE(Series9 @ Dec 22 2011, 06:47 AM) *

That has to be it. I forgot that James gave me a rack. I'll go over to storage in a little while.


Nothing like a little public stupidity to keep me humble. laugh.gif

lol-2.gif Looks like you need a better parts inventory tracking system. poke.gif
Chris Pincetich
Short shaft problems should stay on the board, as I am sure others are seeking advice on fixing their short shaft

Isn't there a better joke in here somewhere? beerchug.gif
"What do 911 owners have in common with their steering rack?"
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Rob-O
I vote classic! biggrin.gif
sean_v8_914
solid mounts are evil satanic plants into the holy sanctity of the blessed garage
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