Ian Stott
Mar 28 2012, 04:15 PM
I have a73 2.0, stock, except for the pertronix electonic ignition module. Which spark plugs are recommended for normal cruising, not a daily driver, some say Bosch and some say NGK. Also I have heard you gap the plugs different if you have the electronic ignition module, all comments appreciated.
Ian Stott
Moncton
Canada
yeahmag
Mar 28 2012, 05:08 PM
NGK B6ES is what I ran. Now I run the NGK B6ES-11 with the CDI. The "-11" denotes that it is pre-gapped at a .044".
Series9
Mar 28 2012, 05:13 PM
Bosch copper or NGK copper.
Forget about the platinum crap.
SLITS
Mar 28 2012, 06:00 PM
QUOTE(Series9 @ Mar 28 2012, 04:13 PM)
Bosch copper or NGK copper.
Forget about the platinum crap.
Generally, I run nothing but Bosch Copper, but NGKs are great too!
struckn
Mar 29 2012, 08:03 PM
The local Parts Store didn't have the Bosch but did have Champion COPPER plugs which are in the car and running great, gapped at .040 with Pertronics Ignitor ignition and Flame Thrower coil. Time will tell.
Could gap larger up to .050 I'm told which increases the life of the plugs due to the
larger spark the Pertronics throws across the gap, which is a good burn.
Aaron Cox
Mar 29 2012, 08:07 PM
NGK B6ES with mallory CDI and Coil
3d914
Mar 29 2012, 10:54 PM
Ian,
I had a stock 74 2.0L with pertronix - always ran the NGK-BP5ES. The BP6ES ran hotter, so I stayed with the 5's. I'm in AZ so cooler was better - maybe not your concern.
yeahmag
Mar 29 2012, 11:41 PM
What do you mean by "ran hotter"?
Ian Stott
Mar 30 2012, 07:12 PM
What did you gap the NGK 5ES at with the Petronix? I heard you could widen the gap but didn't know by how much, I did hear it was better than points. Does a hotter plug have more spark??
Ian Stott
Moncton
Canada
last337
Jan 8 2013, 02:19 PM
I am unable to find the NGK B6ES anywhere. Pelican lists the NGK BP6ES as the plug for the 914.
My local parts store has some copper NGKs but they are not the ones listed on Pelicans site.
SLITS
Jan 8 2013, 03:49 PM
QUOTE(Ian Stott @ Mar 30 2012, 05:12 PM)
What did you gap the NGK 5ES at with the Petronix? I heard you could widen the gap but didn't know by how much, I did hear it was better than points. Does a hotter plug have more spark??
Ian Stott
Moncton
Canada
Spark plugs are rated in "heat range". Below is a link to at least one discussion ..
And a "hotter" spark plug does not have more spark.
Hot vs Cold
yeahmag
Jan 8 2013, 03:53 PM
reharvey
Jan 8 2013, 04:28 PM
So what's wrong with the Bosch Platinum plugs?
reharvey
Jan 8 2013, 04:50 PM
QUOTE(reharvey @ Jan 8 2013, 05:28 PM)
So what's wrong with the Bosch Platinum plugs?
Bills914-4
Jan 8 2013, 05:07 PM
Cap'n Krusty
Jan 8 2013, 05:20 PM
QUOTE(reharvey @ Jan 8 2013, 02:28 PM)
So what's wrong with the Bosch Platinum plugs?
Other than they're junk, you mean?
Here's a question for you. If they cost less wholesale than the corresponding copper plug, and they sell for more, what's the counter person gonna push?
They just don't perform well in VW and Porsche engines. Or BMWs, either, for that matter.
The Cap'n
edwin
Jan 8 2013, 05:30 PM
I'm running br6es in mine. Couldn't find in any auto stores but turns out they are common in bikes. Had heaps in stock
I tried a set of Bosch platinum plugs in my Saab daily driver and couldn't rev over 4k. Was like hitting a hard cut rev limit
Edwin
steuspeed
Jan 8 2013, 07:25 PM
QUOTE(WLD419 @ Jan 8 2013, 03:07 PM)
Looks like a nice plug.
mittelmotor
Jan 8 2013, 09:30 PM
QUOTE(reharvey @ Jan 8 2013, 02:50 PM)
QUOTE(reharvey @ Jan 8 2013, 05:28 PM)
So what's wrong with the Bosch Platinum plugs?
It's true, they are filled with popcorn.
reharvey
Jan 9 2013, 07:47 AM
So what's wrong with the Bosch Platinum plugs?
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It's true, they are filled with popcorn.
I had no idea that the Bosch Platinum plugs are so bad for our cars!
Mark Henry
Jan 9 2013, 08:00 AM
If you are running a Petronix with a stock blue coil run the stock gap.
If running MSD, CDI, etc you run a much larger gap.
A Petronix by itself is basically just a signal/switch.
last337
Jan 9 2013, 08:46 AM
Okay so I am so confused now. If you do a parts search on NGK's site for '73 914 2.0 you get a recommendation for BR6ES.
If you go to Pelican or autoatlanta they list the BP6ES and BP5ES.
Autozone lists the BPR6ES or BPR5ES.
Is there a problem with running any of those as opposed to B6ES plugs? I am not sure what the difference is.
After looking a bit I found this handy dandy decoder. From this it looks like only difference between B6ES and BP6ES is the projected insulator. Not that I know what that means or if it is okay
http://www.kaila.net/tl125/tl125ngkcode.html
edwin
Jan 9 2013, 02:42 PM
From what I've read the bp6es is fine to but why not use the correct one?
The r just reduces noise for radio and in my case efi
last337
Jan 9 2013, 03:00 PM
QUOTE(edwin @ Jan 9 2013, 02:42 PM)
From what I've read the bp6es is fine to but why not use the correct one?
The r just reduces noise for radio and in my case efi
Mainly I just wanted an option that was available locally rather than waiting a few days for them to come in.
john_g
Jan 27 2013, 06:21 PM
QUOTE(3d914 @ Mar 29 2012, 08:54 PM)
Ian,
I had a stock 74 2.0L with pertronix - always ran the NGK-BP5ES. The BP6ES ran hotter, so I stayed with the 5's. I'm in AZ so cooler was better - maybe not your concern.
Gerard,
Mark me confused
The AutoAtlanta parts site claims that the 6 is a cooler plug than the 5?? They recommend the 5 for normal driving and the 6 for "spirited" driving.
Drums66
Jan 27 2013, 08:24 PM
...Bosch copper also!...
RSrocket
Jan 31 2013, 06:31 PM
NGK BP6ES
on a stock 2.0L w/44 IDF's, MSD & Blaster coil, .040 gap.
IIRC, the "R" denotes a resistor plug & on NGK plugs the higher the number the cooler the plug is. Opposite of Bosch plugs.
BTW, I use to use Bosch until they changed their #ing system. Now it's NGK all the way.
Hope this helps.
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