I never realized the car got such good press back then, thought it was always compared less favorably with the 911.
Came across the article in the Porsche 914 Portfolio.
Full Version: 914 - Motor Trend Import Car of the Year
Remember the morons down at motor trend value things like price, gas economy, comfort, air conditioning, radio features, etc. Ugh, i hate those mainstream magazines.
Dont get me wrong, I love the 914, but I dont love it because motor trend likes it.
Dont get me wrong, I love the 914, but I dont love it because motor trend likes it.
The Renault Alliance and Encore were back to back cars of the year 
QUOTE(seanery @ Oct 26 2004, 02:37 PM)
The Renault Alliance and Encore were back to back cars of the year
You trying to insinuate something about products resulting from the partnership between AMC and Renault?
QUOTE(seanery @ Oct 26 2004, 03:37 PM)
The Renault Alliance and Encore were back to back cars of the year
I happen to currently own a renault alliance and an Encore, absolutely fantastic cars.
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QUOTE (seanery @ Oct 26 2004, 03:37 PM)
The Renault Alliance and Encore were back to back cars of the year
I happen to currently own a renault alliance and an Encore, absolutely fantastic cars.
Convertable?
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QUOTE (seanery @ Oct 26 2004, 03:37 PM)
The Renault Alliance and Encore were back to back cars of the year
I happen to currently own a renault alliance and an Encore, absolutely fantastic cars.
Yup....surrender cars. When signalling to turn they have little white flags that pop up and wave..... 
Don't really care about any of this, but do like the french bashing.
American Advisory for Traveling to France
*********************************
The following advisory for American travelers heading for France was compiled from information provided by the US State Department, the Central Intelligence Agency, the US Chamber of Commerce, the Food and Drug Administration, the Center for Disease Control and some very expensive spy satellites that the French don't know about. It is intended as a guide for American travelers only and no guarantee of accuracy is ensured or intended.
General Overview
**************
France is a medium-sized foreign country situated on the continent of Europe, and is for all intents and purposes fucking useless. It is an important member of the world community, although not nearly as important as it thinks. It is bounded by Germany, Spain, Switzerland and some smaller nations of no particular consequence or shopping opportunities. France is a very old country with many treasures such as the Louvre and EuroDisney.
Among its contributions to Western civilization are champagne, Camembert cheese, the guillotine, and body odor. Although France likes to think of itself as a modern nation, air conditioning is little used and it is next to
impossible to get decent Mexican food. One continuing exasperation for American visitors is that the people willfully persist in speaking French, although many will speak English if shouted at repeatedly.
The People
*********
France has a population of 54 million people, most of whom drink and smoke a great deal, drive like lunatics, are dangerously over sexed and have no concept of standing patiently in a line. The French people are generally gloomy, temperamental, proud, arrogant, aloof and undisciplined; those are their good points. Most French citizens are Roman Catholic, although you'd
hardly guess it from their behavior. Many people are Communists and topless sunbathing is common. Men sometimes have girls' names like Marie and they kiss each other when they hand out medals. American travelers are advised to travel in groups and to wear baseball caps and colorful pants for easier mutual recognition. All French women have small tits, and don't shave their armpits or their legs.
Safety
*****
In general, France is a safe destination, although travelers are advised that France is occasionally invaded by Germany. By tradition, the French surrender more or less at once and, apart from a temporary shortage of Scotch whisky and increased difficulty in getting baseball scores and stock market prices, life for the visitors generally goes on much as before. A tunnel connecting France to Britain beneath the English Channel has been
opened in recent years to make it easier for the French government to flee to London.
History
******
France was discovered by Charlemagne in the Dark Ages. Other important historical figures are Louis XIV, the Huguenots, Joan of Arc, Jacques Cousteau and Charles de Gaulle, who was President for many years and is now an airport. The French armies of the past have had their asses kicked by just about every other country in the world.
Government
**********
The French form of government is democratic but noisy. Elections are held more or less continuously and always result in a runoff. For administrative purposes, the country is divided into regions, departments, districts, municipalities, cantons, communes, villages, cafes, booths and floor tiles.
Parliament consists of two chambers, the Upper and Lower (although, confusingly, they are both on the ground floor), whose members are either Gaullists or communists, neither of whom can be trusted. Parliament's principal preoccupations are setting off atomic bombs in the South Pacific and acting indignant when anyone complains.
Culture
******
The French pride themselves on their culture, although it is not easy to see why. All of their songs sound the same and they have hardly ever made a movie that you want to watch for anything except the nude scenes. Nothing,
of course, is more boring than a French novel (except perhaps an evening with a French family.)
Cuisine
******
Let's face it, no matter how much garlic you put on it, a snail is just a slug with a shell on its back. Croissants, on the other hand, are excellent although it is impossible for most Americans to pronounce this word.
American travelers are therefore advised to stick to cheeseburgers at McDonald's or the restaurants at the leading hotels such as Sheraton or Holiday Inn. Bring your own beer, as the domestic varieties are nothing but
a poor excuse for such.
Economy
*******
France has a large and diversified economy, second only to Germany's economy in Europe, which is surprising since people hardly ever work at all. If they are not spending four hours dawdling over lunch, they are on strike and
blocking the roads with their trucks and tractors. France's principal exports, in order of importance to the economy, are wine, nuclear weapons, perfume, guided missiles, champagne, high-caliber weaponry, grenade launchers, land mines, tanks, attack aircraft, miscellaneous armaments and cheese.
Conclusion
*********
France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Remember no one ordered you to go abroad. Personally, we always take our vacation in Miami Beach and you are advised to do the same.
American Advisory for Traveling to France
*********************************
The following advisory for American travelers heading for France was compiled from information provided by the US State Department, the Central Intelligence Agency, the US Chamber of Commerce, the Food and Drug Administration, the Center for Disease Control and some very expensive spy satellites that the French don't know about. It is intended as a guide for American travelers only and no guarantee of accuracy is ensured or intended.
General Overview
**************
France is a medium-sized foreign country situated on the continent of Europe, and is for all intents and purposes fucking useless. It is an important member of the world community, although not nearly as important as it thinks. It is bounded by Germany, Spain, Switzerland and some smaller nations of no particular consequence or shopping opportunities. France is a very old country with many treasures such as the Louvre and EuroDisney.
Among its contributions to Western civilization are champagne, Camembert cheese, the guillotine, and body odor. Although France likes to think of itself as a modern nation, air conditioning is little used and it is next to
impossible to get decent Mexican food. One continuing exasperation for American visitors is that the people willfully persist in speaking French, although many will speak English if shouted at repeatedly.
The People
*********
France has a population of 54 million people, most of whom drink and smoke a great deal, drive like lunatics, are dangerously over sexed and have no concept of standing patiently in a line. The French people are generally gloomy, temperamental, proud, arrogant, aloof and undisciplined; those are their good points. Most French citizens are Roman Catholic, although you'd
hardly guess it from their behavior. Many people are Communists and topless sunbathing is common. Men sometimes have girls' names like Marie and they kiss each other when they hand out medals. American travelers are advised to travel in groups and to wear baseball caps and colorful pants for easier mutual recognition. All French women have small tits, and don't shave their armpits or their legs.
Safety
*****
In general, France is a safe destination, although travelers are advised that France is occasionally invaded by Germany. By tradition, the French surrender more or less at once and, apart from a temporary shortage of Scotch whisky and increased difficulty in getting baseball scores and stock market prices, life for the visitors generally goes on much as before. A tunnel connecting France to Britain beneath the English Channel has been
opened in recent years to make it easier for the French government to flee to London.
History
******
France was discovered by Charlemagne in the Dark Ages. Other important historical figures are Louis XIV, the Huguenots, Joan of Arc, Jacques Cousteau and Charles de Gaulle, who was President for many years and is now an airport. The French armies of the past have had their asses kicked by just about every other country in the world.
Government
**********
The French form of government is democratic but noisy. Elections are held more or less continuously and always result in a runoff. For administrative purposes, the country is divided into regions, departments, districts, municipalities, cantons, communes, villages, cafes, booths and floor tiles.
Parliament consists of two chambers, the Upper and Lower (although, confusingly, they are both on the ground floor), whose members are either Gaullists or communists, neither of whom can be trusted. Parliament's principal preoccupations are setting off atomic bombs in the South Pacific and acting indignant when anyone complains.
Culture
******
The French pride themselves on their culture, although it is not easy to see why. All of their songs sound the same and they have hardly ever made a movie that you want to watch for anything except the nude scenes. Nothing,
of course, is more boring than a French novel (except perhaps an evening with a French family.)
Cuisine
******
Let's face it, no matter how much garlic you put on it, a snail is just a slug with a shell on its back. Croissants, on the other hand, are excellent although it is impossible for most Americans to pronounce this word.
American travelers are therefore advised to stick to cheeseburgers at McDonald's or the restaurants at the leading hotels such as Sheraton or Holiday Inn. Bring your own beer, as the domestic varieties are nothing but
a poor excuse for such.
Economy
*******
France has a large and diversified economy, second only to Germany's economy in Europe, which is surprising since people hardly ever work at all. If they are not spending four hours dawdling over lunch, they are on strike and
blocking the roads with their trucks and tractors. France's principal exports, in order of importance to the economy, are wine, nuclear weapons, perfume, guided missiles, champagne, high-caliber weaponry, grenade launchers, land mines, tanks, attack aircraft, miscellaneous armaments and cheese.
Conclusion
*********
France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it, and it weren't still radioactive from all the nuclear tests they run. The best thing that can be said for it is that it is not Spain. Remember no one ordered you to go abroad. Personally, we always take our vacation in Miami Beach and you are advised to do the same.
The truth is finally written. They should be nuked to save humanity.
ROFLMAO
You forgot 911 gasoline- wine!!!
Thats great! My bro is stydying in Grenoble France right now (August 04 to June 05) so I'll have to forward that to him. Being a good American, I give him crap all the time about France.
HiJack Continues. AP release that was not generally seen in US..
Paris..AP French to Send Surrender Advisors to Iraq
In a stunning reversal of policy, French President Jacques
Chirac announced today that the French government will be
supporting the War on Terror after all. Five hundred
soldiers from the elite L'Abandonnement du Field d'Honneur Battalion
(French Surrender Battalion) of the Legion Etrangere
(Foreign Legion) are in the process of shipping out to Iraq
where they will assist the elite Iraqi Republican Guards in their
inevitable surrender to the overwhelming might of the
American Armed Forces.
"Eet ees important to be haughty and insufferable when
surrendering," said General Philippe de Peepee, the Commanding
Officer of the Surrender Battalion, who has personally
surrendered in more than 200 battles going back to Dien Bien Phu
in 1954.
"We French are ze world masters at surrendering, n'est ce
pas, not like you arrogant Americans who never surrender.
Ha, I spit on your filthy American victories."
President Chirac also announced that his government will be
sending 3,000 advisors from the elite Force du Collaborateur
Francaise (French Collaboration Force) to assist the Iraqis
in collaborating with the Americans while pretending to be
part of a non-existent resistance movement.
When Saddam Hussein asked Chirac to advise him as to how many troops
would be needed to defend his capital city, Chirac replied, "I do not
know. France has no experience in defending its capital city."
Paris..AP French to Send Surrender Advisors to Iraq
In a stunning reversal of policy, French President Jacques
Chirac announced today that the French government will be
supporting the War on Terror after all. Five hundred
soldiers from the elite L'Abandonnement du Field d'Honneur Battalion
(French Surrender Battalion) of the Legion Etrangere
(Foreign Legion) are in the process of shipping out to Iraq
where they will assist the elite Iraqi Republican Guards in their
inevitable surrender to the overwhelming might of the
American Armed Forces.
"Eet ees important to be haughty and insufferable when
surrendering," said General Philippe de Peepee, the Commanding
Officer of the Surrender Battalion, who has personally
surrendered in more than 200 battles going back to Dien Bien Phu
in 1954.
"We French are ze world masters at surrendering, n'est ce
pas, not like you arrogant Americans who never surrender.
Ha, I spit on your filthy American victories."
President Chirac also announced that his government will be
sending 3,000 advisors from the elite Force du Collaborateur
Francaise (French Collaboration Force) to assist the Iraqis
in collaborating with the Americans while pretending to be
part of a non-existent resistance movement.
When Saddam Hussein asked Chirac to advise him as to how many troops
would be needed to defend his capital city, Chirac replied, "I do not
know. France has no experience in defending its capital city."
100 years after the American Revolution...
The French revolted against their governement....as far as most are are concerned....they're STILL revolting......
BTW...why are the French so "aromatic"?
So blind people can hate them too....
The French revolted against their governement....as far as most are are concerned....they're STILL revolting......
BTW...why are the French so "aromatic"?
So blind people can hate them too....
Have you tried to google 'french military victories' ? Worthwhile 
The Complete Military History of France
Gallic Wars
Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.
Hundred Years War
Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted.
Italian Wars
Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
Wars of Religion
France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots
Thirty Years War
France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.
War of Revolution
Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.
The Dutch War
Tied
War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.
War of the Spanish Succession
Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.
American Revolution
In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."
French Revolution
Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
Gallic Wars
Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.
Hundred Years War
Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted.
Italian Wars
Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
Wars of Religion
France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots
Thirty Years War
France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.
War of Revolution
Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.
The Dutch War
Tied
War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.
War of the Spanish Succession
Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.
American Revolution
In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."
French Revolution
Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
I am in tearms (from the other thread) 
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