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scotty b
Does anyone KNOW FOR A FACT if the Irsish green used on 356 is the same as the irish green used onm the 914's ? I have a 356 nearing paint time and can't find the formula for it. The paint shop can't even find any record of the paint code which I know for a fact is correct. They pulled out an old Glasurit chip book from 1964 and it doesn't list this code, nor Irish green as being offerd that year. Before you start speculating the car was color changed it wasn't, this is by far the most original unmolested rust free 356 I have EVER dealt with.

356 code = 6406
914 code = L60E
911 code = 6404 - 64/65
................ 6606 - 66/67
................ 6806 - 68/69
................ M3M3 - 76

ALL called Irish green dry.gif
tod914
Scott, contact John or Ray Paterek. paterek@aol.com 973 635 5918
MDG
Can't help with the code but Irish Green was absolutely one of the 7 or 8 standard colours offered on the C's (64-65). There were also another 3 or 4 option colours.

Irish Green is one of those colours. Way more yellow in it in person than comes across in a lot of photos. When we did mine I think we actually went of the Porsche code from 911/912. It came out dead on. I've seen some that are way too blue and end up looking more like that VW colour on some bugs and buses.


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scotty b
That's basically my next step. I'm going to take ALL of the different codes in and get them to check theformulas for each. Assuming they are all the same, I think it is a safe bet the 356 Irish would be too. All of the pics I find look the same on a 15" screen be it a 356, 911 or 914 confused24.gif
sixnotfour
http://www.willhoitautorestoration.com/paintsamples.php

Wilhoit has spray cards and info.

1970 914-6 are stamped 15 in the door post tag, which is the VW code for Irish Green

Irish green 70-72 15 L60E
MDG
QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 3 2013, 12:51 PM) *

That's basically my next step. I'm going to take ALL of the different codes in and get them to check theformulas for each. Assuming they are all the same, I think it is a safe bet the 356 Irish would be too. All of the pics I find look the same on a 15" screen be it a 356, 911 or 914 confused24.gif


The '65 SC coupe I almost bought last summer was an original paint Irish Green and I can tell you (though I didn't have them side by side to compare) it looked exactly like my 3.2 car. If they tweaked the formula at all it must have been very very subtle. I'm sure Irish Green on a '70 914-6 or 911 is the same as what was on the C's.
sixnotfour
Glasurit formula;

Irish Green / Color code 60 E / Year of usage 70

62.1 parts 1069 dunkelgrun
15.6 parts 1078 chromgelb
08.8 parts 1052 schwarz
12.2 parts 1053 ocker
01.3 parts 1059 orange

scotty b
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Mar 3 2013, 10:15 AM) *

Glasurit formula;

Irish Green / Color code 60 E / Year of usage 70

62.1 parts 1069 dunkelgrun
15.6 parts 1078 chromgelb
08.8 parts 1052 schwarz
12.2 parts 1053 ocker
01.3 parts 1059 orange

Interesting. That is very similar to the formula they had in Shopline, which is the lower grade PPG. Typically the lower grade lines don't use as many tints to achieve the color, which is why I try to avoid them
sixnotfour
1971 Volkswagen Irish Green L60E 44249 PPG
1964 Porsche Irish Green 213 43477 PPG

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedispl...0&sort=code
sixnotfour
QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 3 2013, 10:21 AM) *

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Mar 3 2013, 10:15 AM) *

Glasurit formula;

Irish Green / Color code 60 E / Year of usage 70

62.1 parts 1069 dunkelgrun
15.6 parts 1078 chromgelb
08.8 parts 1052 schwarz
12.2 parts 1053 ocker
01.3 parts 1059 orange

Interesting. That is very similar to the formula they had in Shopline, which is the lower grade PPG. Typically the lower grade lines don't use as many tints to achieve the color, which is why I try to avoid them



Your talking 1964 though.. I can ask my buddy that just painted a 356 Irish green what formula he used ? I think he used the shopline one though .
I have a 30 yr old gallon of Imron, I can check that formula maybe if it can be read..
scotty b
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Mar 3 2013, 10:37 AM) *

QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 3 2013, 10:21 AM) *

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Mar 3 2013, 10:15 AM) *

Glasurit formula;

Irish Green / Color code 60 E / Year of usage 70

62.1 parts 1069 dunkelgrun
15.6 parts 1078 chromgelb
08.8 parts 1052 schwarz
12.2 parts 1053 ocker
01.3 parts 1059 orange

Interesting. That is very similar to the formula they had in Shopline, which is the lower grade PPG. Typically the lower grade lines don't use as many tints to achieve the color, which is why I try to avoid them



Your talking 1964 though.. I can ask my buddy that just painted a 356 Irish green what formula he used ? I think he used the shopline one though .


Yes, but I'm also assuming at this point that all Irish greens are the same, meaning if I can't find an OFFICIAL formula for 64, I would be safe to use the one from 70,74,76 etc.
JmuRiz
Didn't know that 356 was such an 'odd' color...all I know is that car in Irish green will be a great combo when done, can't wait to see it.

Edit: found this on derwhite's 356 pages. He lists literature with one of the new 356C colors being #6406 Irish green. Not sure if that'll help with a formula code though. Wish there was a color swatch...maybe he has one?

http://derwhites356literature.com/Porsche356Colors.html
scotty b
QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Mar 3 2013, 11:03 AM) *

Didn't know that 356 was such an 'odd' color...all I know is that car in Irish green will be a great combo when done, can't wait to see it.

AFAIK It isn't. I've seen many in Irish. I'm not sure what is going on with the Glasurit chip book they have, but I saw it in person and there was no mention of that code nor that color in 64. Weird blink.gif Depending on what I find out about the other codes formulas, I may get one of the samples from Wilhoit
sixnotfour
http://www.glasurit.com/COLOR/new-color-on....php?language=1
PORSCHE 1515 IRISCHGRUEN
ThePaintedMan
Such a badass fuching color. Still my favorite.
a914622
You probably already know this but the primer color can change the top coat color in bright light/ sun light. A gray primer coat will shade blues and greens and reds different than a yellow or white primer.
I had to repaint a fender on a bug years back. Using the same paint from the same mix but under coated with gray primer not yellow and that fender looked like a darker blue in the sunlight.

good luck, love the greens on the older cars!!


jcl
OU8AVW
Give Will's old man a call. He's the 356 paint guru.
sixnotfour
Scotty, LMK what you find out...
scotty b
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Mar 4 2013, 06:48 PM) *

Scotty, LMK what you find out...

Will do. I now have 2 mix codes for Glasurit. I am also going to get a sample from Wilhoit. Should be interesting to see what they all show, and have in common popcorn[1].gif
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