geshaghi
Apr 15 2013, 10:31 PM
A couple of years ago, I purchased a 914-6 in Riverside, CA. This is an original 1970 914-6 (#535) and retains the original engine. The car has been modified at some point in the past, in what I would call a 935 style. The work is all steel, and looks like it was done by a reasonably skilled craftsman. The car was last registered about 10 years ago, and was at one point owned by Dave Chrouch who now resides in Taft, CA. I've spoken with Dave, and he recalls that the body work was done by someone in Ojai, and that the engine was rebuilt by a race mechanic, but he has no other history or better recollection. We cleaned the carbs, changed the oil, plugs and points and replaced the master cylinder, and the car fired up on the first turn of the key! The photos below came from the prior owner when the car was in good shape; she is quite a bit more tattered and worn now, although mostly from sitting fort he last 10 years. If anyone has any recollection or information about this car, it would be appreciated. Thanks
monkeyboy
Apr 15 2013, 10:51 PM
I can't say I know any details, but can we see more pictures?
rick 918-S
Apr 15 2013, 10:54 PM
Nice! Show us some new photos!
geshaghi
Apr 15 2013, 11:09 PM
I'll get some current photos this week and post them. I thought I had some but they seem to have vanished! Thanks guys.
geshaghi
Apr 17 2013, 09:30 AM
oldschool
Apr 17 2013, 01:34 PM
I really dig the fender work...way cool..
pete000
Apr 17 2013, 02:03 PM
Wow, cool save !
Are you going to be returning it to its former glory?
Something like this one...
geshaghi
Apr 17 2013, 03:23 PM
We have gotten the car running and driving today, and I'm still not certain what I will do with her from here. The original color is beautiful, but the effort required to return the body to the original configuration will be tremendous and the work was clearly done by a skilled craftsman. It's kind of cool in a odd way. That's part of why I am trying to find more info on the car. I think I may leave the car as is, with just some minor body repairs
Cairo94507
Apr 17 2013, 03:27 PM
I like the Adriatic Blue a lot. Since you have the original motor with the car I would return it to stock. But that's just me.
ThePaintedMan
Apr 17 2013, 03:34 PM
I actually really like your car, and I'm not usually a fan of body kits, especially on /6s. That being said, the price of original /6s is going up so fast now, it might be something for you to consider to restore it. Are the fenders and everything fiberglass? If you were careful when removing everything, you might be able to sell that kit to someone else.
Very pretty car! I say drive it for now!
geshaghi
Apr 17 2013, 03:58 PM
All steel except for the front and rear bumpers. Work is very nicely done, with some subtle touches, including laying the front turn signals down slightly. If the work was poor quality, I would remove it all. I'm thinking about replacing the front bumper with a stock unit and otherwise leaving it as is
Scott S
Apr 17 2013, 04:21 PM
You could do a mix.... leave the bodywork intact (that front bumper is still available as I recall) repaint it in it's original color blue and put the big Fuchs back on. Also restore/detail the trunks, engine compartment and wheel wells. Car would be both super custom and super nice/detailed.
Is the interior still intact?
Here is the bumper:
http://www.autoatlanta.com/Porsche-Imsa-Fr...N-RMIT1402.htmlIf these guys have it, I am sure you could also find it somewhere more trust worthy.
Mike Bellis
Apr 17 2013, 04:41 PM
I found a bunch of history about my car here. Someone will recognize it eventually. That car is too unusual not to remember. I think you should restore it as is. Keep the fenders like they are!
geshaghi
Apr 17 2013, 04:56 PM
QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Apr 17 2013, 03:41 PM)
I found a bunch of history about my car here. Someone will recognize it eventually. That car is too unusual not to remember.
That's what I'm hoping for. Thanks
RON S.
Apr 17 2013, 05:57 PM
Only thing I can add is hat my -6 when I found it back in the 90's had the
exact same hounds tooth seats that I see yours has.
My car is a Euro (ROW) car, and I've never seen another car equipped with that same pattern. Kind of a corduroy hounds tooth in black. I've always wondered if they were original, or an upholstery shop recovering. Even my COA doesn't mention them.
It would seem extremely unlikely that 2 guys on opposite coasts would have the exact same seat patterns and they'd not be original...
Just my 2cents worth...
Derek Seymour
Apr 17 2013, 08:55 PM
QUOTE(RON S. @ Apr 17 2013, 04:57 PM)
Only thing I can add is hat my -6 when I found it back in the 90's had the
exact same hounds tooth seats that I see yours has.
My car is a Euro (ROW) car, and I've never seen another car equipped with that same pattern. Kind of a corduroy hounds tooth in black. I've always wondered if they were original, or an upholstery shop recovering. Even my COA doesn't mention them.
It would seem extremely unlikely that 2 guys on opposite coasts would have the exact same seat patterns and they'd not be original...
Just my 2cents worth...
Porsche listed hounds tooth interiors as an option. I imagine if the engine is original then the interior is as well
Not that you need another opinion but I say grab another IMSA front bumper/air damn, repair the body dings, paint it whatever color you want, throw on any rims you want, and drive it like you stole it! That body work is pretty cool and I don't think it's sacrilege to have a 6 with a modified body. Nor should it really be worth any less. Think about how many 6's ended getting their bodywork altered for racing and they still command high prices
jim_hoyland
Apr 17 2013, 09:03 PM
Do a search in the VINdatabase. It may have been entered, if it's not listed, add it
carr914
Apr 18 2013, 08:37 AM
QUOTE(Derek Seymour @ Apr 17 2013, 10:55 PM)
QUOTE(RON S. @ Apr 17 2013, 04:57 PM)
Only thing I can add is hat my -6 when I found it back in the 90's had the
exact same hounds tooth seats that I see yours has.
My car is a Euro (ROW) car, and I've never seen another car equipped with that same pattern. Kind of a corduroy hounds tooth in black. I've always wondered if they were original, or an upholstery shop recovering. Even my COA doesn't mention them.
It would seem extremely unlikely that 2 guys on opposite coasts would have the exact same seat patterns and they'd not be original...
Just my 2cents worth...
Porsche listed hounds tooth interiors as an option. I imagine if the engine is original then the interior is as well
That is a Different Houndstooth. This is what Porsche Offered
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RON S.
Apr 18 2013, 10:35 AM
Just to throw this out there, here's a couple old shots of my seat pattern.
these pics are from about 10 years ago.
I've saved these seats, and packed away in a spare room.
I'd like to think that they are one of a kind....
Scott S
Apr 18 2013, 11:26 AM
am I seeing a GT oil line cover in the drivers footwell?
geshaghi
Apr 19 2013, 07:20 AM
QUOTE(RON S. @ Apr 18 2013, 09:35 AM)
Just to throw this out there, here's a couple old shots of my seat pattern.
these pics are from about 10 years ago.
I've saved these seats, and packed away in a spare room.
I'd like to think that they are one of a kind....
Interesting. I don't think the pattern is factory original. The material has been used all over the interior of my car, including door panels and sunvisors. I wonder if the same upholsterer did both cars? Any idea who did yours?
geshaghi
Apr 27 2013, 10:13 AM
just bumping this up to see if anyone recognizes this car. thx
geshaghi
Jun 24 2013, 03:22 PM
I have continued to clean the car up and have driven her a little bit. Definitely fun, as the car is kind of outrageous in her current guise. Still haven't been able to find out anything about the history.
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nathansnathan
Jun 24 2013, 04:08 PM
QUOTE(RON S. @ Apr 18 2013, 09:35 AM)
Just to throw this out there, here's a couple old shots of my seat pattern.
these pics are from about 10 years ago.
I've saved these seats, and packed away in a spare room.
I'd like to think that they are one of a kind....
I think I have the same seat pattern in my 71 -4 - They have faded to be like purplish but I think were black to begin with and I think they are original to the car. I will take a better look to compare when I get off work.
siverson
Jun 24 2013, 10:51 PM
I can't believe I'm the only one to recognize this car so far. Or at least the body kit. Am I really that old now?!?!
Anyways, I'm pretty sure the kit was made by Chuck Beck's son (Randy?) in the 90s. Randy had a shop around Claremont/Upland (or don't recall exactly) in the 90s that I visited a couple times when I was going to school at Pomona.
Randy had a blue 914 with that kit (or very similar body work), but he had a monster 3.6 or 3.8 engine it in. I doubt this is his car as his car was very modified.
Plus, I think there was an old V&W Porsche article with a car that had one of these kits on it. I have no idea how many were made/sold - maybe only a couple as they don't seem to be very common at all.
At least that's what I think it is...
-Steve
siverson
Jun 24 2013, 10:55 PM
Eh... Maybe I jumped the gun on this. This is the car I was thinking of:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1518601Similar, but different. Maybe they started with the Beck kit and made your car... ?
-Steve
nathansnathan
Jun 24 2013, 11:36 PM
QUOTE(RON S. @ Apr 18 2013, 09:35 AM)
Just to throw this out there, here's a couple old shots of my seat pattern.
these pics are from about 10 years ago.
I've saved these seats, and packed away in a spare room.
I'd like to think that they are one of a kind....
look to be the same from here. This is a L98 black car. Would have been pretty striking, all black, fuzzy seats probably kinder than vinyl in the heat. Too bad they are faded purple from the junkyard. The PPO painted the car maroonish to match, it seems.
Click to view attachmentlittle squares
Click to view attachmentIt does seem that kit linked could have been the starting point. Much nicer-looking, the red one - looks pretty good actually.
geshaghi
Jun 25 2013, 12:29 AM
Certainly has some similarities to the blue Beck, but seems much like a custom or one-off work. My car (the red one) has flares done in steel which blend into the existing contours and body lines of the car well. In contrast, the Beck, which is likely fiberglass, creates a new line for the flare and is more evocative of a 916 IMO.
nathansnathan
Jun 25 2013, 09:35 AM
It's cool they actually moved the tail lights out so the orange of the euro signal lines up with the rear lid lines. Their being so wide-set makes it look bad ass. Nice that the 911 reflector fits in there uncut(?)
So is the beck kit fiberglass?
rnellums
Jun 25 2013, 11:41 AM
They also sloped and chamfered the front turn signal buckets. Its subtle, but looks really clean.
Chris Pincetich
Jun 25 2013, 02:17 PM
Another one-of-a-kind custom 914
I like it. Great mod for wide tires, w/o adding "flares"
How big are those rear tires??
Mr.242
Jun 25 2013, 07:31 PM
Interesting find. Wish someone knew more info about the car, but you may have all you're going to learn on this car.
What direction are you going on this? Rebuild? or Refresh the current condition?
geshaghi
Jun 26 2013, 08:25 AM
I've decided to put the car up for sale. She runs and drives well now, so mechanically sorted and can be driven as is. The car has 15x8 and 15x9 fuchs replicas, and the rears are 265-50-15 (old tires, so these will need to be replaced, but they look cool!). If the car doesn't sell, I may return her to the original configuration, but as noted by several, the subtle details all suggest that the car was done by a skilled craftsman and I am surprised that I haven't been able to find any more info on the car.
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