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May 9 2013, 04:58 PM
These are not Porsche OEM but look like the Porsche originals and are European (Italian) made, with the black rubber head and mild nickel plated steel. This is a master key blank. It is the key that will operate your ignition and all of your other locks, as well.
Click to view attachment$7.95 each shipped to your door (USA).
Will ship internationally at additional cost.
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May 17 2013, 07:59 PM
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Hello Everyone,
I'm going to be ordering key blanks for myself; master and valet. They are not Porsche OEM but look like the Porsche and are European made with the black rubber head.
$7 each shipped (CONUS). I will order extra if members would like some for themselves.
thanks,
dan
Master and valet key blanks set to arrive on the 20th. Basically you can get three blanks shipped to your door for less than the price of one Porsche blank.
JawjaPorsche
May 18 2013, 03:46 AM
PM Sent
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May 21 2013, 03:50 PM
QUOTE(tweet @ May 9 2013, 06:58 PM)
These are not Porsche OEM but look like the Porsche originals and are European made with the black rubber head and steel.
$7 each shipped (CONUS).
Key blanks are in, and first batch is shipping today to members that have pre-paid.
QROtarga
May 23 2013, 09:38 PM
are these made of steel or of brass? If brass, I would be interested in two or three...
It happens that my "key keeper" told me that the steel versions will damage on the long run the internal lock parts.
QROtarga
May 23 2013, 09:40 PM
sorry for not reading the details, later I saw they are made of steel...
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May 23 2013, 09:48 PM
QUOTE(QROtarga @ May 23 2013, 11:38 PM)
are these made of steel or of brass? If brass, I would be interested in two or three...
It happens that my "key keeper" told me that the steel versions will damage on the long run the internal lock parts.
As far as I know, they are steel, like many of the American made keys, that are not the cheap kind of key blanks. As far as "damaging" , I don't know what to tell you. The maker of these keys, is an OEM supplier for different makes and models in Europe. It is a well known brand and they make a lot of keys, for many different makes and models. They are well known. I'm using them for my own car. A locksmith made a key once for my 914, it was not brass, it was not steel. It was garbage and bent after only a few turns of the ignition. Too hard, too soft, it's up to the individual's judgement. Have you priced a key at Porsche lately? The cost is outrageous.
Black22
May 24 2013, 12:42 AM
I'm a locksmith. Steel keys will damage the tumblers in our lock cylinders as well as the key cutters that locksmiths use. There are steel keys out there, but for the most part keys are made of brass (sometimes nickle plated) so that the key will wear down and the internals of the cylinder will last longer.
If these key blanks are indeed steel, please inform the lock service that you have your keys made at. They, like myself, will use a special cutter or refuse to cut them. One steel key cut on my machines will trash a $100 cutting wheel.
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May 24 2013, 06:28 AM
QUOTE(Black22 @ May 24 2013, 02:42 AM)
I'm a locksmith. Steel keys will damage the tumblers in our lock cylinders as well as the key cutters that locksmiths use. There are steel keys out there, but for the most part keys are made of brass (sometimes nickle plated) so that the key will wear down and the internals of the cylinder will last longer.
If these key blanks are indeed steel, please inform the lock service that you have your keys made at. They, like myself, will use a special cutter or refuse to cut them. One steel key cut on my machines will trash a $100 cutting wheel.
I will look into this further.
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May 24 2013, 08:06 AM
QUOTE(Black22 @ May 24 2013, 02:42 AM)
I'm a locksmith. Steel keys will damage the tumblers in our lock cylinders as well as the key cutters that locksmiths use. There are steel keys out there, but for the most part keys are made of brass (sometimes nickle plated) so that the key will wear down and the internals of the cylinder will last longer.
If these key blanks are indeed steel, please inform the lock service that you have your keys made at. They, like myself, will use a special cutter or refuse to cut them. One steel key cut on my machines will trash a $100 cutting wheel.
Hello Mike,
Do you know what material Porsche keys are made from?
anderssj
May 24 2013, 07:02 PM
I just checked my original key (from 1972)--it looks like plated brass (with nearly all of the plating worn off)
Steve A-
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May 24 2013, 07:12 PM
QUOTE(anderssj @ May 24 2013, 09:02 PM)
I just checked my original key (from 1972)--it looks like plated brass (with nearly all of the plating worn off)
Steve A-
The originals are brass, I was asking about currently made keys. I've been told by two different locksmiths that European keys are steel (including Porsche and VW) and American keys are brass. I wanted to know what Mike's opinion is, to see if he concurs on this matter. I am still looking into this issue with the supplier. It seems to be that even American auto manufacturers are now considering steel keys as well. They called me back to say that they have contacted the factory overseas and it will be a few days to get an answer.
anderssj
May 24 2013, 07:58 PM
QUOTE(tweet @ May 24 2013, 09:12 PM)
QUOTE(anderssj @ May 24 2013, 09:02 PM)
I just checked my original key (from 1972)--it looks like plated brass (with nearly all of the plating worn off)
Steve A-
The originals are brass, I was asking about currently made keys. I've been told by two different locksmiths that European keys are steel (including Porsche and VW) and American keys are brass. I wanted to know what Mike's opinion is, to see if he concurs on this matter. I am still looking into this issue with the supplier. It seems to be that even American auto manufacturers are now considering steel keys as well. They called me back to say that they have contacted the factory overseas and it will be a few days to get an answer.
Sorry about that--I thought you were asking about the original keys.
Black22
May 25 2013, 12:17 AM
Not knowing the manufacturer, I can't say. I believe we use a PO5 key blank, but that is an ilco key number. The ilco key blank is nickle plated brass. I have newer Porsche blanks that are not brass, but not steel. A magnet has no effect on them. I'm going to have to say they are aluminum, but I'm not a metalurgist.
The reason for using brass is that it is soft and will wear instead of the tumblers. The theory is that it's easier to make a new key than replace a lock cylinder. Steel keys would wear out the tumblers at an accelerated rate.
Aluminum isn't great for a locksmiths key cutters, but a far sight easier on the cutting wheel than steel. I'd cut aluminum, not a chance for steel.
JawjaPorsche
May 29 2013, 06:51 AM
I got my key from Dan and went to my local hardware store to get it cut. No problem, it works! And the best part, my hardware store would not take any money for cutting it! Only in small town America! Thank you so much Dan for providing us a key source! Now I have spare!
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May 29 2013, 07:20 AM
QUOTE(JawjaPorsche @ May 29 2013, 08:51 AM)
I got my key from Dan and went to my local hardware store to get it cut. No problem, it works! And the best part, my hardware store would not take any money for cutting it! Only in small town America! Thank you so much Dan for providing us a key source! Now I have spare!
No, thank you! I appreciate the support. I like the key fob, it's purty.
JawjaPorsche
May 29 2013, 07:34 AM
QUOTE(tweet @ May 29 2013, 09:20 AM)
QUOTE(JawjaPorsche @ May 29 2013, 08:51 AM)
I got my key from Dan and went to my local hardware store to get it cut. No problem, it works! And the best part, my hardware store would not take any money for cutting it! Only in small town America! Thank you so much Dan for providing us a key source! Now I have spare!
No, thank you! I appreciate the support. I like the key fob, it's purty.
The key fob is over 35 years old! Found it in a drawer last week!
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May 31 2013, 09:11 PM
Update:
I did some further research, and here are the results. I acquired a set of OEM Porsche keys from a more modern Porsche and the keys are steel. Metallurgy aside, it's a basic magnet test; steel sticks to magnets. So, the two locksmiths I spoke to were correct, modern Porsche keys are made from steel, just like the blanks I am offering for sale at a drastically reduced cost. The bottom picture is of some more duplicates I've had cut for myself.
Black22
May 31 2013, 10:22 PM
OEM keys can be steel, but did you try the magnet test on your blanks? I bet they are not steel.
EDIT: Just read "just like my blanks".
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May 31 2013, 10:31 PM
I don't understand your point. If they are not steel, then there shouldn't be an issue with cutting them, correct? If they are steel and Porsche OEM are steel, then there is no issue here either. The only difference then is $7.00 shipped for a key blank that is affordable for members, versus going to a Porsche dealer, waiting in the parts department to be helped, and paying $83 plus tax to get a master key cut, which is what they wanted to charge me. That is why I decided to buy my own and offer it to the members. So they could get a good quality key, like a Porsche key without the Porsche price.
Black22
Jun 1 2013, 10:19 AM
No point. Not trying to detract from your sales.
OEM can be steel. They are usually "punched" at the factory. They are not cut on machines like most locksmiths do, without special cutting wheels made for steel. To answer your question, if they are not steel, there is absolutely no issues with having them cut by anyone (locksmith, Home Depot, etc.)
I have factory Porsche blanks like you are selling and they are not steel...I was just wondering if you had verified these blanks are other than steel. I only see you did a magnet test on a factory cut key, not the ones you are selling.
Carry on tweet. Good luck with the sale, that is a great price!
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Jun 7 2013, 12:59 PM
Still have some good quality OEM like key blanks available at a very reasonable price shipped.
JawjaPorsche
Jun 7 2013, 01:55 PM
QUOTE(tweet @ Jun 7 2013, 02:59 PM)
Still have some good quality OEM like key blanks available at a very reasonable price shipped.
This is one of the best deals ever on this forum. Bought one two weeks ago and had one problem getting it to match the original.
Went to my local hardware store and asked them if they had a blank key for my 914. Of course, they didn't have one but I asked them first. Then I said, I have a blank one can you cut it and they said they would. The man who cuts dozens of keys everyday said there was no problem with this key. Just like other blank keys he had on the display. He cut the key in less than two minutes. Absolutely no problem. Fit first time! The best part: He would not charge me for the key cutting! Only in small town America!
Because the $7 includes shipping, you are getting a key for $5 than normally would cost $25 elsewhere plus shipping and tax.
At my age, I am always misplacing things. It is nice to know I have a spare key in a safe place. Now if I just don't forget where the safe place is!
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Jun 13 2013, 07:38 AM
Get blanks to make copies of your keys. Don't lose your originals.
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Jun 14 2013, 05:12 PM
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mojorisen914
Jun 14 2013, 09:57 PM
PM sent.
Hine62
Jun 15 2013, 06:20 AM
PM set also...
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Jun 23 2013, 08:59 PM
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luskesq
Jun 23 2013, 10:24 PM
Dan, I got my keys and there was no problem getting them cut at my local hardware store. They are steel or some composite thereof-magnet tested. I'm not terribly concerned about them possibly wearing out the locks a bit faster than any alloy or brass key. First, they are backups from which I can get additional keys cut from should I ever have a problem with my original keys. Second, and like I suspect a significant number of 914 owners, I do not drive my 914 every day. Key wear even with a steel key will take years to show up. If it does I order more tumblers from you.
I would note that delivery was incredibly fast. I ordered late on a Friday, you (Florida) mailed them the following day and I got them Wednesday (California). I also received the same speedy delivery with the tumblers you sold me.
Thanks Dan,
Keith
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Jun 23 2013, 10:30 PM
Thanks Keith for the support. I'm glad I could be of help to you and the other members.
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Jul 1 2013, 08:54 PM
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Jul 7 2013, 08:22 PM
bump for good key blanks at a good price
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Aug 19 2013, 10:21 PM
bump for good key blanks at a good price
sean_v8_914
Aug 20 2013, 07:51 AM
i better get some
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Aug 20 2013, 08:34 AM
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i better get some
pm sent to Sean, Clark and Jim
pilothyer
Aug 20 2013, 09:40 AM
Need to get some
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Aug 21 2013, 08:26 AM
QUOTE(pilothyer @ Aug 20 2013, 11:40 AM)
Need to get some
pm sent to the pilot
FrogMut
Aug 21 2013, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(tweet @ May 9 2013, 03:58 PM)
These are not Porsche OEM but look like the Porsche originals and are European made with the black rubber head and steel.
$7 each shipped (CONUS).
I would like two black and one red.
Email frogmut @ gmail
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Aug 22 2013, 08:07 PM
pm sent to Robert and Richard
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Sep 6 2013, 05:11 PM
weekend bump
quickstreet
Sep 12 2013, 10:48 AM
QUOTE(tweet @ May 9 2013, 03:58 PM)
These are not Porsche OEM but look like the Porsche originals and are European made with the black rubber head and steel.
$7 each shipped (CONUS).
quickstreet
Sep 12 2013, 10:51 AM
I sure would like to get 4 of the keys. Who can I do that. Dick
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Sep 12 2013, 06:20 PM
QUOTE(quickstreet @ Sep 12 2013, 12:51 PM)
I sure would like to get 4 of the keys. Who can I do that. Dick
pm sent to Dick
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Sep 13 2013, 10:39 PM
down to 4 master key blanks and 10 valet key blanks
aaronc70
Sep 24 2013, 08:37 PM
PM sent + BUMP
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Sep 24 2013, 09:19 PM
pm sent to Aaron, t.y.
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Sep 24 2013, 09:49 PM
PM sent...
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Sep 24 2013, 09:52 PM
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PM sent...
pm replied to , t.y.
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Oct 15 2013, 09:39 PM
Fresh batch of master key blanks are in; still $7 shipped to your door CONUS.
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Oct 20 2013, 06:53 PM
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