Got a call from my fleet manager about 15 minutes ago. He says you have to come down to the office because somebody broke into the yard and they got into your car. I'm thinking "Oh Shit" did I lock it yesterday? I drive down to the office and sure enough they cut a 6 foot hole through the chain link and barbed wire fence at the back of the property. Went through all of the service trucks we had in for repairs and cleaned them out of about $10,000.00 worth of tooling and equipment "EACH"!!! So then I see my car sitting under its tarp with the door open. Luckily I didn't lock it, so no broken windows to replace. I cannot believe people. We gotta get a couple mean ass dogs. Maybe not though because they would probably eat one of these pricks and then their family would own the business. :finger2:

that sucks....hidden survallance cameras now???

I like the dog idea....need a device to let them loose after the idiots are in the yard.....


check eBay....quite a few thieves are getting caught this way....

HMMM .. lets see now.... electric fence with a few thousand amps a couple of land mines a few bouncing bettys ,a automated mini gun on all four corners of the property and a few infrared cameras to film the carnage so you can win 10,000.00 on americas funniest home video! OH YEAH FORGOT TO MENTION....I HATE FUCKING THIEVES!!!!!

QUOTE (curtis @ Dec 19 2004, 07:46 PM)

HMMM .. lets see now.... electric fence with a few thousand amps a couple of land mines a few bouncing bettys ,a automated mini gun on all four corners of the property and a few infrared cameras to film the carnage so you can win 10,000.00 on americas funniest home video! OH YEAH FORGOT TO MENTION....I HATE FUCKING THIEVES!!!!!

shawn, tell us how you really feel

Years ago I worked for an auto shop in a neighborhood that was, shall we say, a bit rough. The owner had a Rottweiller that he loved and that he left in the yard at night. Some thieving prick killed the rottweiler with a crossbow and then ripped off a bunch of stereos out of the customer's cars.

The shop owner then hired a unique guard dog firm. Instead of bit Rottweilers and Dobermans, then used Chihuiahs (sp).

They would train the little rat dogs to attach anyone who came in the fence. And he would put 30 of them in the yard. Kinda like a pack of piranahs, they would rip an intruder to shreads. And it's kinda hard to kill all 30 of the little bastards...

We came into work one morning, and there was 2 guys in a customer's car, bleeding badly and too scared to come out while the little rat dogs were still in the yard. Apparently the little rat dogs had done some major damage to the would be thiefs bodies, including a very nasty dog bite on the family jewels.

I actually got along with the Rottweiler and could go in the shop at any time. On the other hand, I would never venture into the yard before the security firm came and picked up the rat dogs. Those little b@stards scared the hell out of me.

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Dec 20 2004, 05:46 AM)

Years ago I worked for an auto shop in a neighborhood that was, shall we say, a bit rough. The owner had a Rottweiller that he loved and that he left in the yard at night. Some thieving prick killed the rottweiler with a crossbow and then ripped off a bunch of stereos out of the customer's cars. The shop owner then hired a unique guard dog firm. Instead of bit Rottweilers and Dobermans, then used Chihuiahs (sp). They would train the little rat dogs to attach anyone who came in the fence. And he would put 30 of them in the yard. Kinda like a pack of piranahs, they would rip an intruder to shreads. And it's kinda hard to kill all 30 of the little bastards... We came into work one morning, and there was 2 guys in a customer's car, bleeding badly and too scared to come out while the little rat dogs were still in the yard. Apparently the little rat dogs had done some major damage to the would be thiefs bodies, including a very nasty dog bite on the family jewels. I actually got along with the Rottweiler and could go in the shop at any time. On the other hand, I would never venture into the yard before the security firm came and picked up the rat dogs. Those little b@stards scared the hell out of me.

Cool story. I can see these guy's grabbing door handles and screaming like little girls! Insurance claims night mare. But I love it!

I know of a company that uses rotwiellers with their voice boxes removed. They've caught a few guys with the dogs (the guys have been pretty mangled).

How stupid can you get to rip off random peoples stuff

When you need your drugs, you need them...

Still, I hate thieves as well. I like the Tesla coil idea...

Whoever came up with the Chihuana idea is a freaking evil genius! hahahaha Tu quieres tu ojos esse?

It'll take a while before that image gets outa my head.

By the way, my dog was killed so some jerk could try to steal my teener earlier this year. Car didn't even have an engine in it at the time, so they killed the dog and got nothing. I would have much rather lost the car and kept the dog. If a person wants it bad enough, they'll figure out a way around/through a dog. About the only realistic option for protecting open areas is a really really good surveylance system. You need cameras watching all ins and outs as well as cameras watching those cameras in case people try tampering with them.

Hmmm....RFID the tools?

I keep mine in a locked garage attached to the house, The walls are pretty thin and you can hear everything or anything in my wifes bedroom. If someone tried to get in, she would hear it and come wake me up. At that point, I would walk out with my little can shooter and escort them off.

Here in Kalifornistan it is not legal to defend property with lethal force. You are "entitled" to expel unwanted visitors or would-be thieves with exactly enough force to make them go away, but any more will likely land you in court and set you up for years of giant PITA. What "they" really want you to do is call the cops, then succumb and submit to the bad guys and do whatever they want until help arrives.

I'm no lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but in my amateur opinion -- be very careful with your security decisions, folks.

We have two dogs, one of which is a large male Akita that will do his best to kill any intruders. The other is a female mutt sweetheart who's mainly a barker, but a darn good one. One is in the back and one in the garage, so they cover most potential entry points. I figure they will be deterrants but honestly my cousin had a pit bull killed by robbers and it does happen when they're strung-out or determined enough to get what you have.

Of course, if I catch anybody threatening our dogs with deadly force then I'll assume they are threatening me and the family, and they will suddenly drop to the ground full of bleeding holes.

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Dec 19 2004, 09:30 PM)

QUOTE (curtis @ Dec 19 2004, 07:46 PM) HMMM .. lets see now....  electric fence with a few thousand amps a couple of land mines a few bouncing bettys ,a automated mini gun on all four corners of the property and a few infrared cameras to film the carnage so you can win 10,000.00 on americas funniest home video!   OH YEAH FORGOT TO MENTION....I HATE FUCKING THIEVES!!!!! shawn, tell us how you really feel

Opps! I know I know Im not supposed to say the F-word...sorry!

QUOTE (curtis @ Dec 20 2004, 10:08 PM)

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Dec 19 2004, 09:30 PM) QUOTE (curtis @ Dec 19 2004, 07:46 PM) HMMM .. lets see now....  electric fence with a few thousand amps a couple of land mines a few bouncing bettys ,a automated mini gun on all four corners of the property and a few infrared cameras to film the carnage so you can win 10,000.00 on americas funniest home video!   OH YEAH FORGOT TO MENTION....I HATE FUCKING THIEVES!!!!! shawn, tell us how you really feel Opps! I know I know Im not supposed to say the F-word...sorry!

Damn, I'm glad I don't have this problem..

My town just hit 15,000 in the entire county and I feel like people are invading me!

You can never bee too far out in the boonies these days!

People around here don't even turn around in your driveway because they are afraid their ass is gonna get shot!

I'm going to clean my guns now... Last night was shotgun night and I only got 15 of them finished, I might get the rifles done by weeks end...

Hey, I'll be nice if I catch the thief on this turf, he could find his ass sporting a broadhead through the back from the crossbow and trust me that hurts way more than a bullet!

QUOTE (campbellcj @ Dec 20 2004, 10:42 PM)

Here in Kalifornistan it is not legal to defend property with lethal force.

Now that is an example of why I won't live in the PRC (peoples republic of california).

Here in Texas if someone enters your home, shoot them. It's legal to shoot intruders. Thieves here know that so they don't come in when someone is home, or the pick on the helpless ones. I am NOT a helpless homeowner. It's real funny to watch some punk-assed kit piss himself when he hears you chambering a shell into a 12 gauge. It's even better to humiliate them by making them call 911 and having them politely tell the dispatcher that the homeowner caught them breaking into the house, and then asking the dispatcher to have an officer come out and arrest them for breaking and entering. That gets the confession on tape, and the 911 records can be matched with the number. They may not be able to get the actual confession admissable, but the fact that their voice came from my phone, plus the cops finding them in my bedroom with me is enough to get them convicted for B&E.



And here in Texas, it is an accepted practice to shoot the punk who runs from you, and drag his sorry ass back in the house!!!

Little rat dogs, that is absolutley brilliant. What are you going so say the little 2lb dog kicked my ass?

Never thought my stupid dalmations had a mean bone in thier body till an unrecognized person stepped in the garage. Both of them sprang up and were going to rip his arms off. Like somebody flipped the "eat em" switch.
They listen really good as I called out them to stop it was like putting on the anitlock brakes.

Joe,
If I ever come visit you, remind me to bring something for the dogs. Little dogs scare the hell out of me. Big dogs, unless trained to be agressive, are usually nice and friendly. Little dogs are agressive by nature, due to their size. The only dog bite I ever got was from a Pekanise (sp). I was collecting for newspapers, and it latched on to my achilles tendon. I punted the little bastard into the yard, and refused to deliver a paper to the guy ever again.

Never been bitten by a big dog. Just licked to death by a St. Brenard. Man can they DROOL when happy.

A good friend of mine, his girlfriend, and an ex-girfriend of mine all do Police dog training and Schutzen (I won't even try to spell that) with big shepards. There's NOTHING in the world like having 80-90 lbs of meat and teeth sicked on you, if a dog (well, the bigger ones that can knock you down) wants to take you out, you're history, it happens so fast!
And the ex has a little aussie that is the meanest, snarliest, ugliest, hairyest, boniest, teethiest thing on earth (yeah, I mean the dog ...), and she has him trained for personal protection. He's trained to bite where he can jump and reach, and aussies can almost jump over you! He's snarled at me a couple times, and standing right in front of me was a little scary - who knows what he'll latch onto and not let go of - ooooooochie......

Thieves Suck !
Always steal'n other peoples shit !
Can't pay for it themselves !
Better not break in my house (california)!
I will go JASON on your ass!
Hack you into pieces!
Bury you out in the backyard !
All before SunRise...