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jcd914
I am resurrecting/hijacking this thread for my 914 Build Off thread.

I have made very little progress since I bought this 914 and started this thread.

My Build Off thread starts at post number 27 where I have a some background on me and my new Blue 914 and what I plan to accomplish as part of the 914 Build Off.

Thanks for following along!

Jim

I am leaving the original post in this thread so the post that follow make sense.

The original start:

So I went to Long Beach to spend Thanksgiving week with my kids, both my son and daughter now live in LB.
While I was in LB to took a trip up to Santa Clairita and bought Chris' (banger on 914world) Majik Blue Pearl 914 project. Chris has put a lot of work into this car with the engine he built and the paint & body work he had done. He has had an ad posted for awhile and had dropped his asking price too low for me to pass up.

This is going to be the beginnings of my project thread, which looks like it will mostly be reassembling the car after the body/paint work that was done. It is the body and paint work that lead me to buying this from Chris, it is an amazing color blue that changes with the light.

I did not bring a truck and trailer with me on vacation so I will be going back down (prob 2 weeks) to pick-up the car and parts. Empty truck & trailer from N. Cal to S. Cal if anyone needs something transported?

Now I need to sell off much of the 3 other 914s I have to support this project (and appease my wife). Since Chris' car was a complete runner before it came apart for paint/body work, there will soon be ads in the classified for much of my years of collecting.

Here is to new beginnings beerchug.gif

Jim

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McMark
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You made the right move.
jcd914
QUOTE(McMark @ Dec 1 2013, 11:49 PM) *

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You made the right move.


That is what I think smile.gif

My wife is not so convinced sad.gif

Mostly she thinks I should have sold cars & parts I already have before buying another car & parts(silly girl).
She does like the paint color smile.gif

Jim
JStroud
Very nice Jim, can't wait to see you in a running car. If you need any help let me know, shops almost done if you need a lift.
I can probably help you with getting rid of some of those parts too, still need a few things for the black car.

Jeff
wndsnd
That color is fantastic!

John
ConeDodger
Nice Jim! Tell Mary I told you to do it.... That'll take the heat off of you! biggrin.gif

My trailer is sitting down at Mark's shop and I have lots of time off if you need it or the company...
914_8
Clean car…. from the picture it looks like you might not have been too far from my place.
jcd914
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Dec 2 2013, 08:46 AM) *

Nice Jim! Tell Mary I told you to do it.... That'll take the heat off of you! biggrin.gif

My trailer is sitting down at Mark's shop and I have lots of time off if you need it or the company...


Mary is doing fine so far but IF I don't follow thru with selling off some stuff I'll have some problems. I need to get rid of much of what I have anyway, I need the space and money will help too.

I planned to get in touch about your trailer but if you are interested in helping with the pick-up run that would be great. I am tentatively planning on going down again on the weekend of Dec 14th/15th.


Jim
ConeDodger
I work Saturday I think. But Sunday / Monday would work if you're flexible. Otherwise, the trailer is at Mark's and you're welcome to use it.

We should have a build party. You've got pretty much everything you need... biggrin.gif
ruby914

"She does like the paint color smile.gif"

Me too, love the color thumb3d.gif
jcd914
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Dec 2 2013, 11:04 PM) *

I work Saturday I think. But Sunday / Monday would work if you're flexible. Otherwise, the trailer is at Mark's and you're welcome to use it.

We should have a build party. You've got pretty much everything you need... biggrin.gif


I can be flexible, it is whether work can be flexible. I'll look into what is going on that Monday. All next week I have a software developer in from Colorado to set up a new publication environment. Who know what they have planned after that?

I have thought about a build party but first I have to clear out my garage and get the car here.


Jim
ConeDodger
Build it!!!
McMark
Are you grabbing the motor I have here as well? I'll need a bit of time to un-bury it. wink.gif If not, I might have a buyer.
ConeDodger
QUOTE(McMark @ Dec 3 2013, 08:51 AM) *

Are you grabbing the motor I have here as well? I'll need a bit of time to un-bury it. wink.gif If not, I might have a buyer.


Well, he has resolved the terms of the hostage situation. He had to get a car to the point it was worthy of that motor! biggrin.gif Thing ran a lot better with the new Bowlsby harness. You guys trying to keep your motors running with the stock injection should take note of that. Cured pretty much all the sins... smile.gif
jcd914
QUOTE(McMark @ Dec 3 2013, 08:51 AM) *

Are you grabbing the motor I have here as well? I'll need a bit of time to un-bury it. wink.gif If not, I might have a buyer.


I do plan to get the motor you have there but I am not sure what to do in the long run.
I was not looking for a car with a fresh motor, much less a hot rod motor with MS on it. I had always planned to use the "Dwight" motor that is sitting at your shop. Now I have to make decisions?

I don't need to pick up the "Dwight" motor at the same time as the the car, we can plan a day I can come "un-bury" it and get it out of your way.

Buyer? Never thought about selling it but I'd be interested to hear about a buyer. smile.gif

I would also like to bring the 73 roller I have over to you and have you estimate the cost to patch the floorboard and firewall to make it a solid chassis again. I figure it will be easier sell if that cost is known up front.

Jim
McMark
Better hurry up. Rob keeps telling me to charge more. happy11.gif
biosurfer1
Nice Jim...let me know if you need any help.
ConeDodger
QUOTE(McMark @ Dec 3 2013, 01:07 PM) *

Better hurry up. Rob keeps telling me to charge more. happy11.gif


*other people*

Dude! Don't take me out of context! biggrin.gif
jcd914
So, I am planning to go down to LA area to pick-up my new project.
I don't have exact time schedule yet but I'll get there. smile.gif

I offered earlier, I'll be takeing and empty truck and trailer down from Sacramento, possibly as far as Long Beach, if anyone needs some thing transported.

Jim


jcd914
cheer.gif She home! cheer.gif

I went down to Santa Clairita over the weekend and picked up my new project from Chris. My son & daughter met us there and took my wife off to go shopping and such, I met them down in Long Beach latter.
Drive back Sunday was Long, big rig caught fir on I-5 and we were stop & go for and hour or more out in the middle of no where. sad.gif

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Kids "helping":
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At Home:
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Jim

ConeDodger
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That trailer looks vaguely familiar... huh.gif

Sorry I couldn't come Jim, in fact, somehow I'm still working. I'm in Elko Nevada right now. Hoping to make it back to Reno by morning if the plane keeps flying !!!
jcd914
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Dec 16 2013, 04:09 PM) *

cheer.gif aktion035.gif drooley.gif smilie_pokal.gif

That trailer looks vaguely familiar... huh.gif

Sorry I couldn't come Jim, in fact, somehow I'm still working. I'm in Elko Nevada right now. Hoping to make it back to Reno by morning if the plane keeps flying !!!


It was dark when I picked up the trailer and I was a little concerned about the tire. They actually looked better in the morning and I no problems at all, well except trying to find a place to park a truck and trailer in Long Beach sad.gif
I found a Super 8 Motel that advertised truck/bus/RV parking, not far from either of my kids apartments. There is no truth in advertising anymore sad.gif
Their RV/bus/truck parking was a row of end to end spots along a block wall on a dead end row of motel rooms. Not really enough room to turn around so I just planned on having to back out on to the street I came in off of. That was the plan until some dolt parked behind me, blocking me in, at checkout time they were still parked there. I think it took 27 back and forths to get turned around and out of the lot. cheer.gif

Thanks for the use of the trailer!!

Jim




jcd914
Best pictures Yet !!

In MY Garage cheer.gif beerchug.gif beer3.gif

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OK, they aren't great picture but they do show it in MY garage!

Jim
ConeDodger
Tires should be fine, in fact not many miles (you probably doubled the miles) from Americas Tire with the warranty. Sorry, I should have told you that you could just stop there and they would check them and so forth...

Car looks good in there Jim but just a warning, if we see beer making equipment stacked on top of it, McMark and me will come get it and hide it in the back corner of Mark's shop with your Dwight Mitchell motor... slap.gif blink.gif lol-2.gif av-943.gif
jcd914
OK, So I have been spending what "914" time I have selling parts to recoup some of my cost from buying this new project car.

cheer.gif cheer.gif Today I actually started working on it! cheer.gif cheer.gif

Started sorting through the wiring harnes mess made when the car was stripped and painted.
Chris did not take out the whole harness, I think Chris (the PO) did the disassembly for paint work.
In the rear he pulled it all out of the rear trunk and into the engine compartment and bundled together.
In the passenger compartment he pulled the whole dashboard and dash frame, so the whole harness was loose and bundled together.
There is also a stereo harness, Mega-squirt harness and center console gauge harness mixed in here too.

The interior harnesses!?!

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So mostly I untangled the harnesses and inspected them to see what I am up against. There are some poor splices in the harness that I will need to fixed and a bunch of additional connections I need to ID and correct.


Jim
jcd914
While I was untangling and rerouting the rear harness into the trunks I discovered the drive side trunk hinge mount has torn loose.
A fairly common failure and the passenger side had been welded before the paint work was down. Which made me wonder why the driver side was not fixed before painting but on closer inspection it looks to me that the driver side tore loose after the paint work was done.

I don't own a welder, so I will have to borrow one or take my car to someone that has a welder. I probably know at least a dozen people local to me that have welders I could use and of course McMark is a short drive (or tow) away.

Part of the problem with rear trunk hings is the torsion bar spring set up used to support the opened trunk lid. These method puts a lot of load on the hing pivots and I think that contributes to their failure. So I plan to convert to gas struts to lift the rear lid. Then the gas struts carry a large portion of the weight of the rear lid and reduce the load on the hing pivots.

So I took out the rear trunk torsion bars in preparation for conversion to gas shocks fr the rear trunk lid, PITA job!

Jim
jcd914
This is the official start of my 914 Build Off - Jim's Majik Blue 72 Thread

First an intro and a little background on me.

I'm Jim Dupree and I live Carmichael CA, just outside Sacramento.
For almost 20 years I was a full time mechanic (before we were called Technicians) and worked for 3 Porsche Audi dealerships and an independent Porsche speciality shop. Then I made a career change and moved to working at a computer in a office for a company that publishes automotive diagnostic & repair information and software. I've been working a keyboard now for 20 years and somewhere along the way I got old and gray and a bit fat.
I got my first 914 around 1989 (I think) and after taking care of some of those normal 914 issues, I started autocrossing. With my 1971 1.7L 914, I autocrossed for about 5 years including competing in the PCA Zone 7 Autocross series and even competed with a few current 914world members. Around 1996 or 1997 the engine in my 914 seized, this was about a year after I changed jobs and had no money to fix it. So it sat while I saved up to fix it, about 10 years latter I joined 914world as I set out to revive my 914. Well I read on 914world about this thing called "The Hell Hole" and found out my 914 had one, as well as other significant rust. So I bought this Blue 72 as a build project and we can all pretend I didn't buy 3 other 914s before I found this one. So having owned this new project for almost 2 years now and done almost nothing to it, the build off seemed like a great motivator and excuse to get the project moving.

About my "Majik Blue 72".

So having too many 914s (3) that all need too much work, I started looking for a project that was farther along than mine and came across this Majic Blue 72 listed in the 914world classified. When I first read the ad for the stripped to bare metal and repainted (in House of Color's, Majik Blue Pearl paint) but never reassembled 72 914, I figured it was too good a deal to last very long. It was in Southern California and I was in Northern California so I couldn't go look at and I just couldn't pull the trigger on it without inspecting it first. So I wrote it off and went back to looking closer to home. But I keep seeing the ad, there were a few people that showed interest but no buyers, a couple members were trying to buy either the engine or the roller but not both. Eventually the price dropped and my wife and I were heading to Long Beach for Thanksgiving with our 2 kids, both had moved there for school. So while on a holiday trip I arranged to go look at the car and ended up buying it. Made another trip back 2 weeks latter to pick it up.

So on the surface this looks like a simple project, its was a runner before accident repair and repaint, all it needs is reassembly.

The reality is little different.

The wiring needs a lot of work, main harness has multiple wires that have poor repairs or are just cut, there is a stereo harness poorly spliced in, the megasquirt FI harness is poorly routed/assembled and pretty much every ground point on the car has been sprayed over with paint or truck bed liner.
The body shop that did the paint was to "finish it off" after the car was assembled but they are in LA somewhere (PO never sent me the info) and I am in Sacto. The paint has several flaws that will need to be fixed.
In addition to the MS FI wiring being "funky" all the fuel & vacuum hoses need replacement and correct FI clamps. I suspect there are/were vacuum leaks but the engine has never run while I owned it.
Per the PO, the transmission pops out of gear sometimes and it is a tail shifter.
I think the biggest challenge for me is that the car was stripped down for paint but someone else, not me. I have bags and bags of hardware and boxes of parts. Some are marked, most are not. And the few things the PO reinstalled that I have looked at were istalled loose or wrong, probably just so they were inplace when he was trying to sell it and someone looked at the car.

So my plan is (not necesarily in this order):
1 - Fix the wiring and grounds front to rear, installing electrical equipment as I go.
2 - Reassemble/install the complete interior, Seats, door/window mechanizms, trim panels, carpets, etc...
3 - Install all new rubber seals, frt trunk, rear trunk, doors, traga top, etc...
4 - Prep the engine for installation, new gaskets, vacuum hoses fuel hoses, etc...
5 - Convert car & trans to side shifter, will require I fix or replace the transmission.
6 - Install engine & transmission and getit running, including fuel tanks, lines, pump, etc...
7 - Convert to 5 lug, intially I will be using Cookie cutters but would like to find some Fuchs.
I am also wanting to upgrade the brakes to some Alfa Aluminum Brembo front calipers and a set of PMB Vintage Aluminum Rear 914-6 calipers.
8 - Get the paint fixed by a proffesional.

So my project is not as big as some (many) of the others in the Build-off but it is plenty big for me and the time & money I have availible.

I did not enter the build off because I want to win (or think I can win) but instead to be part of it for motivation and a dead line.

Thanks
Jim

jcd914
Ignore the time stamps on the pictures, old camera chewed through batteries so fast I quit resetting the time & date.

Picking It Up:
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Arrival At Home:
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In the Driveway:
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The Fancy Interior:
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Jim
Andyrew
Looks like a fantastic start!!
EdwardBlume
Great color car Jim. Get on it!
jcd914
Progress, actual progress! sawzall-smiley.gif smash.gif

Some of you that know me may have trouble believing this but I have actually been working on my 914! smile.gif
And this weekend I actually made progress. Most of my time so far has been undoing stuff the PO did poorly but yesterday I made net progress.

I finished installing the fuse panel and put the driver door back on.
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I routed the front portion of the wire harness up to the headlights, horns and fog lights, nothing is connected yet but the harness is in place.

Cleaned up the rear Fuse/relay panel in prep to install it.
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I ran the rear harness to the tail lights and connected them. The complete rear harness from the fuse panel back to the taillights has been rewrapped with electrical tape and has some patching to the right rear taillight, maybe else where as well. I will probably see if I can find a new harness and replace it at some point latter but for now hopefully it works.
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I have removed the tail shifter shift lever and front shift rod. I am switching over to a side shift trans I have had for awhile.
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I removed the poorly assembled & installed Mega Squirt wiring, I am installing a known running 2.0L with D-jet.
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The Mega Squirt was installed with the control unit behind the passenger seat and the harness run thru the tunnel and into the engine comp. The harness had to be disconnected from each engine component just to get the engine out. To get the harness out I had to pull out the stainless fuel lines since the harness was wrapped around and thru the fuel lines. It took me several tries to get the fuel lines back in the tunnel correctly, they apparently were a bit bent, but I got them in.I also installed the rear fuel line grommets which I found inside the tunnel.

Still have a long way to go but at least I am heading the right direction!!

Jim

76-914
A "long way to go" can be a good thing if your having fun. beerchug.gif
jcd914
So it has been over 2 years since I posted any progress on my car.
There of course were lots of things that kept from working on that were completely out of my control.
Well that is my story and I am sticking to it.

At any rate I have actually made some progress on it.

A while back I was continuing on the wiring repairs I last posted on.
Cleaned up the harness in the front trunk and straightened out the installation of the stainless fuel lines.

Then I moved on to the wiring harness in the engine compartment.
There I found some very poor repairers and melted wires, quite a mess and not something I wanted to risk coming back to bite me.
I had previously bought a harness but it turned out to be a 70 or 71 harness not 72.

Since I had already fixed the harness in the front trunk and passenger compartment I decide I would do the unthinkable.

I am splicing the rear half of a 75 harness into my 72.
I know there will be some challenges in this but I am OK with wiring.

I cleaned up the rear portion of the 75 harness, repaired a couple tail light wires, rewrapped it and made sure the routing through the engine compartment and to the tail light worked.

The first issue I ran into was after threading the harness through the engine shelf and through the engine compartment and to the tail lights.
When I attempted to put the snorkel through the engine shelf it wouldn't fit.
I assumed it was just stiff and it would take a little extra effort.
After several hours of extra effort over several days I decided there was something else going on.
I did some looking around and figured out that there are 2 different versions of the snorkels, smaller diameter early version and larger diameter late version.
As best I can tell the change was around 75, I have seen pictures of 74's with the early smaller snorkel and the larger snorkel I have was from a 75 2.0L.
My first thought was to open the whole in the engine shelf but there is not room, I found a picture of a 75/76 and the snorkel goes through the engine shelf a few inches over where the shelf is wider.

So I bought a new snorkel from 914rubber and pulled the rear harness half back out of the car, removed the original snorkel and installed the new one.
I then reinstalled the rear half harness, routed it through the engine compartment and to the tail lights.
Threaded into the passenger compartment and installed the snorkel through the engine shelf and into the firewall.

Now I can proceed with splicing the 75 rear half into the 72 front half.
Jim

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jcd914
Some pictures of the different snorkels, 75 OE and 914rubber replacement.

Jim

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rgalla9146
In that case I got very lucky.
I recently installed a 914 6 harness in my '75 GT project chassis. I had no issue
early vs. late snorkel.
It fit as if it was always there.
jcd914
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Apr 8 2018, 02:09 PM) *

In that case I got very lucky.
I recently installed a 914 6 harness in my '75 GT project chassis. I had no issue
early vs. late snorkel.
It fit as if it was always there.


Do you have a picture of the engine shelf where the snorkel goes through?
I don't know what the production data or vin or chasis number was for the car my rear half harness came out of. It was a front end crashed 914 I bought and parted 20 years ago or so.

Thanks
Jim
rgalla9146
QUOTE(jcd914 @ Apr 8 2018, 05:45 PM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Apr 8 2018, 02:09 PM) *

In that case I got very lucky.
I recently installed a 914 6 harness in my '75 GT project chassis. I had no issue
early vs. late snorkel.
It fit as if it was always there.


Do you have a picture of the engine shelf where the snorkel goes through?
I don't know what the production data or vin or chasis number was for the car my rear half harness came out of. It was a front end crashed 914 I bought and parted 20 years ago or so.

Thanks
Jim


Hope this helps. It's the 53rd 1975
jcd914
In your picture it is a little hard to tell where the hole in the engine shelf is.

From above you can see the hole in my 72 engine shelf and the big washer is about where I have seen on 75 cars. It is in the middle section where the shelf gets wider.

I also found a picture earlier that showed the latter 75 location but was said to be a 74, so I don't know when the change was made or if there was an equipment difference that went along with the change. My late 75 rear half harness was out of a2.0L California car.

Jim

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jcd914
I need to catch-up on reporting what I have done to my 914.
Several months ago I took apart the headlight buckets and cleaned, removed the surface rust and painted them.
I reassembled with a new bushing kit from A&P Girl (I think), a prize from a past WCR.
The kit is nice and fit well.
 
I painted the mechanism with a rustolieum black paint that I had in my shed, not sure when I bought it but it worked well and I think I like it better that gray. I am not concerned with matching OE. I also painted the headlight surrounds a black/gray color I think will work well with the dark blue/black/purple color of my car.
 
Pictures of the parts in the process:

What they looked like
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After clean up and paint
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Installed again
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Jim

Mueller
Nice feeling getting some work done on it huh? Nice progress.
jcd914
QUOTE(Mueller @ Apr 30 2018, 09:46 PM) *

Nice feeling getting some work done on it huh? Nice progress.


Mike,
It is nice to get something done!

This I did quite awhile ago but I have been working on it lately and have more progress to add but thought I should get this "old" work into my build thread.

I have been enjoying your engine progress, makes me want to build an engine.

Jim
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