rhodyguy
Dec 20 2013, 10:18 AM
2.2 stuff. what are the values?
rhodyguy
Dec 20 2013, 10:20 AM
there's lots more…LOTS!!! i just don't have pictures. e cams, case, too much…i'm just clueless.
wndsnd
Dec 20 2013, 11:07 AM
Gazzillions.....!!!!!!!
rhodyguy
Dec 20 2013, 11:11 AM
thanks john
. now i can afford a condo in kehei maui.
or buy a suby westy, ship it over, grown my hair out, stay in state parks, live off the 'fat of the land' and play with sharks and leopard seals .
puffinator
Dec 20 2013, 11:15 AM
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 20 2013, 12:11 PM)
thanks john
. now i can afford a condo in kehei maui.
How many piston/cylinders do you have? What is the piston part number so as to identify if T,E or S.
What do you mean by lots more?
rhodyguy
Dec 20 2013, 11:18 AM
lets just say i don't have a set of carbs or heat exchangers. to my knowledge it's all 2.2.
billh1963
Dec 20 2013, 11:26 AM
The engine in my red '72 is a '65 2.0 that has been upgraded to a 2.2. I have been offered $10K for the complete running engine.... mostly because of the engine serial number. Start breaking things down from there and you can get a feel for the value.
wndsnd
Dec 20 2013, 11:30 AM
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 20 2013, 12:11 PM)
thanks john
. now i can afford a condo in kehei maui.
or buy a suby westy, ship it over, grown my hair out, stay in state parks, live off the 'fat of the land' and play with sharks and leopard seals .
Going back to Danica Partricks Bum...
Carry on....
6freak
Dec 20 2013, 01:49 PM
QUOTE(wndsnd @ Dec 20 2013, 09:07 AM)
Gazzillions.....!!!!!!!
its like two of those if your the guy pay`n
Mark Henry
Dec 20 2013, 01:49 PM
My guess is the piston and cylinders are T, S would have biral cylinders and more dome.
I take it the P&C kit are new with rings?
How about the heads? rebuilt? new valves?
Then the rest? condition? crank std/std? any new parts like the bearing? etc?
Looking to part it or sell as a package? (Not Danica's package....smartass
)
A lot of variables
euro911
Dec 20 2013, 02:47 PM
I parted out a 2.2 long block for about $3,800 ... 30 years ago
I kept the heat exchangers cuz they were better than my originals
Guess I should have kept it around for a while
ThePaintedMan
Dec 20 2013, 03:06 PM
Is the price for the case influenced by having case-savers already installed? I know a lot of people are skeptical about those magnesium cases.
rhodyguy
Dec 20 2013, 03:07 PM
box #
NORD
Dec 20 2013, 03:10 PM
Kevin; take these parts to the Bird Board. Lots of trading and selling 2.0 & 2.2 & 2.4 parts going on over there. There is a chart to identify the block as to year of production. Good Luck! Why not put it in a 914?
rhodyguy
Dec 20 2013, 03:20 PM
2 reasons…taxes. both federal and property.
brant
Dec 20 2013, 03:35 PM
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Dec 20 2013, 10:26 AM)
The engine in my red '72 is a '65 2.0 that has been upgraded to a 2.2. I have been offered $10K for the complete running engine.... mostly because of the engine serial number. Start breaking things down from there and you can get a feel for the value.
that price is really driven by the aluminum block
especially if its an S serial number
the 2.2 motors only came with magnesium blocks and the price difference between the 2 styles is significant.
aluminum small spigot blocks were only in 1965 through the very early part of 1968
similar to how a 1967S stock 2L 911 value has risen, so have the aluminum blocks.
gandalf_025
Dec 20 2013, 05:46 PM
If the P/C set is NOS. Look up the price on Pelican new part pages
and post it at least 20% or so under that and see what you get for replies.
The rest of the parts can vary all over the place depending on finding
someone that NEEDS them.
If it is an original 2.2 case, it certainly isn't aluminum.. So it has a limited
audience unless someone needs it to put back into it's original car.
Search the pelican classifieds for 2.2 and see if there is anything that is close.
Might give you an idea ?
Luke M
Dec 21 2013, 08:28 AM
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 20 2013, 02:07 PM)
box #
2.2 and 2.4 engines have the same bore but different compression ratios.
I know some people and I have swapped out the 2.4 pistons for the 2.2 pistons to give yourself a few more hp. I looked up the part # on the box that you have. The closest thing that I found with the part # was used as a 2.4 T p/c set (non cis).
If you look inside the piston you will see some letters/numbers this will confirm what you have. Look at the list attached to see what you have. Your best bet would be to figure out what you have then list them on the Pelican site. I've had better luck selling 911 p/c's there.
carr914
Dec 21 2013, 08:41 AM
QUOTE(brant @ Dec 20 2013, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Dec 20 2013, 10:26 AM)
The engine in my red '72 is a '65 2.0 that has been upgraded to a 2.2. I have been offered $10K for the complete running engine.... mostly because of the engine serial number. Start breaking things down from there and you can get a feel for the value.
that price is really driven by the aluminum block
especially if its an S serial number
the 2.2 motors only came with magnesium blocks and the price difference between the 2 styles is significant.
aluminum small spigot blocks were only in 1965 through the very early part of 1968
similar to how a 1967S stock 2L 911 value has risen, so have the aluminum blocks.
euro911
Dec 21 2013, 01:28 PM
QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 21 2013, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 20 2013, 02:07 PM)
box #
2.2 and 2.4 engines have the same bore but different compression ratios.I know some people and I have swapped out the 2.4 pistons for the 2.2 pistons to give yourself a few more hp. I looked up the part # on the box that you have. The closest thing that I found with the part # was used as a 2.4 T p/c set (non cis).
If you look inside the piston you will see some letters/numbers this will confirm what you have. Look at the list attached to see what you have. Your best bet would be to figure out what you have then list them on the Pelican site. I've had better luck selling 911 p/c's there.
The stroke is different - 66 for the 2.2 vs 70 for the 2.4.
Old Yella
Dec 21 2013, 03:07 PM
They look like 1970-71 E to me, God, could I use them.
Do they have 5 or 6 in the triangle above the skirt.
Do they have 5 or 6 stamped in the triangle?
See attached web site for comparison of pistons/ No affiliation to this site.
http://www.bassant-parts.com/contents/en-uk/d4913_01.html
Old Yella
Dec 21 2013, 03:13 PM
They are listed as
911 S 175 hp
€ 2'400.00 911 103 949 02
Bummer I couldn't use them
http://www.elevenparts.com/mahle.php
Old Yella
Dec 21 2013, 03:15 PM
$3281.52 dollars
wndsnd
Dec 21 2013, 03:57 PM
I was right !
euro911
Dec 21 2013, 04:11 PM
QUOTE(euro911 @ Dec 20 2013, 01:47 PM)
I parted out a 2.2 long block for about $3,800 ... 30 years ago
I kept the heat exchangers cuz they were better than my originals
Guess I should have kept it around for a while
I shouldn't complain, I bought the engine for $150. and sold my old set old set of HEs for that much. Come to think of it, I think I still have some populated 2.2 heads in a box around here
... I'll have to look
rudedude
Dec 21 2013, 04:19 PM
Sure looks like a cast iron cylinder that was used on 84mm "T"s, E and S used biral cylinders(aluminum finned cast iron sleeves)
jcd914
Dec 21 2013, 04:30 PM
QUOTE(Old Yella @ Dec 21 2013, 01:13 PM)
They are listed as
911 S 175 hp
€ 2'400.00 911 103 949 02
Bummer I couldn't use them
http://www.elevenparts.com/mahle.phpExcept the part number on the box is 911 103
942 02 not 911 103
949 02
The 942s looks like might be 72/73 2.4 p & Cs
Jim
Click to view attachment
Old Yella
Dec 21 2013, 04:45 PM
SORRY, must put my glasses on.
But look at the piston top they don't look like T pistons the pocket appears to be too big. Or may be It just looks that way without GLASSES.
Old Yella
Dec 21 2013, 05:13 PM
I should have looked on the box. With glasses.
Last digit is wrong, mahl number listed as follows
503 18 90 Mahle PISTON & CYLINDER
Porsche 911 1972, 1973 MAHLE - CR 7.5:1 - EXC. CIS
Porsche 911 1972, 1973 2.3L H6 911.51 MAHLE - CR 7.5:1 - EXC. CIS
Old Yella
Dec 21 2013, 05:27 PM
I'm still not sure.
Look at the piston comparison c/o Tom1394racing on the pelican site.
pistons don't look like T to me, But then I'm half blind so who knows.
Luke M
Dec 21 2013, 10:15 PM
QUOTE(euro911 @ Dec 21 2013, 12:28 PM)
QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 21 2013, 07:28 AM)
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 20 2013, 02:07 PM)
box #
2.2 and 2.4 engines have the same bore but different compression ratios.I know some people and I have swapped out the 2.4 pistons for the 2.2 pistons to give yourself a few more hp. I looked up the part # on the box that you have. The closest thing that I found with the part # was used as a 2.4 T p/c set (non cis).
If you look inside the piston you will see some letters/numbers this will confirm what you have. Look at the list attached to see what you have. Your best bet would be to figure out what you have then list them on the Pelican site. I've had better luck selling 911 p/c's there.
The stroke is different - 66 for the 2.2 vs 70 for the 2.4.
Yup, I knew that the stoke was different (66 vs 70.4) that's why I said that the bore is the same between 2.2 &2.4 other then compression ratio. Put the 2.2 pistons in a 2.4 engine and you get a few more hp. Good upgrade for someone that's rebuilding a 2.4 and wants a little more out of it.
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