Anybody ever done business with these guys?
http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/PORSCHE914.html

I'm particurarily interested in the Group 5 body kit....

Almost looks like the old porsche palace setup.

Every single picture used on that webpage is straight out of the catalogs of other vendors.

That's one of the most blatant ripoffs i have ever seen ...

Thought you already had a Sheridan kit on your car?

I do.
Shhhh, I'm building another.

Really? Even the Group 5 stuff?
Where've you seen that before? I'd like to go look.
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Yes, really. Not a single image on that page belongs to them.

The group 5 kit (among other things they list) is made by A.I.R. (American International Racing):
http://www.americaninternationalracing.com...246&page=20


Other images shown on their page are from Getty Design:
http://www.gettydesign.com/914_bodywork.html



PS: I actually used to have copies of the printed catalog pages that they simply scanned and put on their website. Not a single one of those catalogs were from "showcars-bodyparts" ... It's a scam website ...

Yeah, the SCCA body kit and all associated parts are AIR. That purple car is currently owned by Tom Burge in NJ (and is for sale btw)
Same body kit as Papa Smurf... though interestingly they are cheaper than AIR...

go here and click on all the Albums...
http://www.americaninternationalracing.com...9246&page=8

Ha! Well ain't that some sh@#t?

On the other hand, I have used AIR and those guys are great!

Just to play devil's advocate...could it be a legit site and they are just a dealer selling the same parts? For example, as a side biz, I am a dealer in classic Chevy interiors. If you look at my company site you would see that all of my pics are identical to my manufacturers.

Just a thought.

Do you also list the same prices as the original manufacturer? Do you also list scans of their printed catalogs with their logo removed on your website?

Seriously?


PS: They're *cheaper* because those scans are a good 8 to 10 years old and list the original manufacturer prices at that time.

Yes pricing is very old, nothing wrong with a good price, but the scans are a BIG red flag.
Pick up in person or pay with a method you can get back if these guys dissapear.
I'd only do the 1st option.
Let us know how this turns out if you buy anything.

Don't suppose anyone's familar with this widebody kit?
I think this is the Sheridan Widebody, right?
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I know this car very well, that is Scott Yeaman's car. It's a Sheridan widebody kit...

Believe this is the kit referred to as the "ultimate". The one I have is the "standard". They're quite different but look similar. Interesting.
I don't suppose anyone's got a rear shot of this vehicle?

I do but not here at work. You'll have to wait until tonight ...

Thanks!

Hmmm.
I thought the Sheridan "Ultimate" widebody was a one piece tail section but this photograph has shown me otherwise. It's very similar to the "standard" which is what I have, just wider I guess?
Wish the images at Sheridan were larger and more of them :-(

He can make it one piece, call him.
He could also send you more pics, just call him.

K. Thanks for the tip. I talked to him months ago (unrelated) and he seemed a nice guy and willing to be free with his expertise, so I'll do that :-)

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And from the same weekend, Roger Sheridans own 914 ...


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Must admit I'm leaning toward the Sheridan "Ultimate" widebody kit for my new project. I wish the Sheridan had a front large enough to support a lexon encased headlight system though....
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Personally, I like the AIR kit...

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Ok. Never mind. Stupid thought. Whatever you do...don't compare my prices to my manufacturers....because my site is obviously a scam.

I have to kinda agree with MoveQik here...most companies use the manufacturers photos for their advertising, and many, many do not show the manufacturers logos or information. Even big companies don't.
What we don't know is if these guys have agreements with AIR, Getty, etc to resell. And as far as pricing, they are usually allowed to price whatever they want....say they get a 25% discount and only want to make 10% on their sales. That's their call (not smart, but their call...)

A couple of notes:

- That page has been around for over 10 years that I can remember.
- Note that the prices in several areas are listed as "updated 2006".


Lots of people throw a website together and then just let it sit and age. Especially if they didn't put a lot of work into it in the first place. Say, if they scanned their suppliers' catalogs and posted them as-is.

I wouldn't assume that they are a rip-off. I would, however, assume that the prices have changed significantly. And you might have to remind them about what they offer. And some of the stuff may not be available at all.

So not overly useful, and probably not even close to accurate any more--but not automatically a scammer's page.





Heh, obviously a Laguna Seca setup! (I could tell even before we saw the track in a later pic.) Lots of baffling for the intake, especially to the right, and the tailpipes point to the left. The sound booth is on the right side of the track going uphill to turn 6, so you see all sorts of bizarre setups to get the car's sound pointed away from the upper-right...

--DD

Whichever kit you decide on, you should know there is an incredible amount of work involved fitting the flares, attaching, etc.

In this regard some manufacturers offer a better "near" finished product than others which you will appreciate more than you know. You may have to spend hours shaping each flare as some are basically shipped from the mold.

Thank you. That was my point. It may very well be a scam but you can't make that assumption solely because he uses his manufacturer's pics and pricing.

^^ Completely agree...and to make matters worse, over 40 years of use/abuse of our flexible little cars means that the body isn't normally EXACTLY like the ones they used for the molds. No matter what, expect a lot of 'fitting'...

Managed to speak with this guy today. He said he was an authorized dealer. I'm a bit skeptical as payment sare supposed to go direct to his name and he's located in Canada....He also didn't seem to know alot of details about the product I would have imagined he should know....like if the hood was reinforced or not.
Also, it appears as if anyone can order direct from AIR....so why would there be a dealer network?
Seems odd.

where in Canada?
may want to have a local member do the pick up

Spoke with AIR and verfied that this guy is indeed an authorized dealer.
As an aside, according to AIR, none of thier dealers hold stock....so, I'm not clear on why someone would want to be a dealer for AIR as they will only get a discount that they could make money on if they were ordering/stocking alot of AIR's parts. Seems odd, and felt hinky but evidently on the up and up.
For my money, I think I'll order direct from AIR (the manufacturer) so I can have a point of contact direct in the event of problems.
Also, AIR products will be increasing by 20% in March sooooo, guess I better make up my mind purdy soon, eh?

The page says it hasn't been updated since 2006 so I doubt anything on it is accurate.

I asked about that and he said those are the prices. I noted that several items didn't have prices at all though and he directed me back to AIR's site and said his are the same. Kinda weird, huh?

Any Good Smart Manufacturer is going to have a Jobber Terms Agreement with their ReSellers that holds them to MAP (Manufacturer Advertised Price) Pricing. This avoids a Product from being Whored out. If a Dealer resells a product below Retail, the product line gets pulled from that Dealer.

The Company that I work for sells product to Summit, Jegs, Shelby and a Host of smaller companies - they can Not sell our Products for less than we do. The only thing they can do is offer Free Shipping or add another product Free with the purchase of our product.

Koni is the Most vigilant Manufacturer when it comes to this - they use Colgate Pricing which is Stricter and has been Upheld by the Supreme Court