pvollma
Feb 18 2014, 08:37 PM
Is anyone familiar with the cold air intake system from
OS Intakes? I've exchanged a few emails with the guy, but he seems very cautious about revealing a lot of information about his system, I guess for fear that I will steal his idea. I like the fact that it picks up air from below the car, and includes a hydro-lock device to prevent water from entering the system. Let me know if you have any real experience with this vendor -- not really looking for comments on why I shouldn't consider it.
nathansnathan
Feb 18 2014, 09:03 PM
Weird, when I go to the site, the counter says only 2 visits ever, so you the op must be the first ever to have gone to the linked site?
jim_hoyland
Feb 18 2014, 09:23 PM
Looks like the intake tube passes through the heater hose duct hole ?
76-914
Feb 18 2014, 09:28 PM
only 2. are you the owner?
Mark Henry
Feb 18 2014, 09:38 PM
Nice bends....not even mandrel bent... exhaust tube from a local FLAPS.
18-20 hp on a 914 that's 18-20% increase on some bent tube...I call total fucking bullshit on that.
Does he have some real independent dyno testing to prove those claims. I think not.
Scam.
SirAndy
Feb 18 2014, 10:04 PM
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Feb 18 2014, 07:23 PM)
Looks like the intake tube passes through the heater hose duct hole ?
Looks like he's sucking in air from under the car? You know, where it's really HOT ...
tomeric914
Feb 18 2014, 10:13 PM
Oh for the love of God...
This is a great quote from his page, "Cold air performance has never been introduced to Volkswagen Type 1, to my knowledge,
at least quite like my design."
5' of undersized tubing draped across the engine is SURE to improve performance.
JamesM
Feb 18 2014, 10:29 PM
Does it come with a "type R" sticker? because that is where the REAL power is!
zambezi
Feb 18 2014, 10:36 PM
That looks horrible and i am sure it is totally useless if not harmful to the horsepower
Mark Henry
Feb 18 2014, 10:56 PM
There was a guy, way back when the club first started if not before, who did every low buck trick to improve performance,. He did find running an intake up the roll bar into cool air gave a slight increase in power. But we're talking a very slight increase, no 18-20hp.
JoeSharp
Feb 18 2014, 10:59 PM
Demick worte a thread on Rennlist that showed where the coldest air in the engine bay is and how to tape into it. He did plenty of research to back up what is was saying.
4 hp for 4 dollars.
I found a link on Pelican but I can't make it work here.
SirAndy
Feb 18 2014, 11:44 PM
QUOTE(Joe Sharp @ Feb 18 2014, 08:59 PM)
Demick worte a thread on Rennlist that showed where the coldest air in the engine bay is and how to tape into it. He did plenty of research to back up what is was saying.
4 hp for 4 dollars.
I found a link on Pelican but I can't make it work here.
It's here too, i remember that post. Can't find it right now ...
Bleyseng
Feb 19 2014, 04:46 AM
The Chuxster did a bunch of tests too using pipe to get cold air. He got 2hp with the best setup on a 914 2.0L on a real dyno.
Mark Henry
Feb 19 2014, 05:06 AM
QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Feb 19 2014, 05:46 AM)
The Chuxster did a bunch of tests too using pipe to get cold air. He got 2hp with the best setup on a 914 2.0L on a real dyno.
That's who I was thinking of I just couldn't remember the name
Bulldog9
Feb 19 2014, 06:36 AM
Cmon guys, everyone knows its easier to breathe through a straw..... the longer the better right?
I cant imagine a worse place to out an airintake not to mention on a low car. Road debris dirt dust small animals not to mention water mud..... and I dont mean the amount that would cause hydro lock. I think youd have to clean the filter and intake housing frequently. Kudos for innovation but this doesnt look like a great idea. 18 hp..... lol
sfrenck
Feb 19 2014, 07:00 AM
In my newbie days, I bought the "warm air intake" from this guy because my car didn't come with the stock filter housing. I asked him prior to purchasing if his system would fit under the stock rain tray, which he said it did. Needless to say when I put the rain tray on it did not fit and he would not return my emails.
Ran it without the rain tray for a couple months of test driving and then the vacuum hose fittings started falling off of it. Into the trash it went.
I would avoid buying from this person.
pvollma
Feb 19 2014, 07:37 AM
QUOTE
I would avoid buying from this person.
Thank you, sfrenck! You're the only one who actually read my request for information on the vendor, not the efficacy of the cold air intake. I've always questioned the location and size of the stock air intake on the 2.0L, especially given the aerodynamics of getting air into the engine bay at speed. My plan is to do my own evaluation of a solution, so I was curious as to whether or not this vendor was someone I wanted to include in that evaluation. You've answered that question. Thanks again.
brant
Feb 19 2014, 07:45 AM
The fact that cool air is constantly pulled down into the engine bay by the design of the cooling system. This would mean that the stock air filtration system is already a cold air intake and stock is likely as good or very close to anything you could replace it with
nathansnathan
Feb 19 2014, 09:22 AM
Checking it on my work computer, the counter resets. Other browser it resets, so it just tells you how many times you have been there on the browser you're using... which doesn't give the site too much credibility as that's not how counters usually work.
The guy seems pretty wacky based on the email responses that 'Steve' got on page 2 of this samba thread about it.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=339079QUOTE
"So Steve how many you want of my REAL cold air systems?. So Steve tell me do you want one for that NON bolt on high horse power type 1 boy racer beetle?. Hey Steve for an additional cost you can even get my optional floor scoop/hot air isolation box AND how about this Steve maybe you can even get my NEW jet air REAL cold air intake system that goes to the ground for that sweet 125hp type 1 boy racer bug. yah yup ok that's right Steve"
So Steve how many?
rhodyguy
Feb 19 2014, 09:44 AM
Rocket science. The ones that blow up on the launch pad.
brant
Feb 19 2014, 09:46 AM
wow...
read the VW thread
the guy is a real ass.
boxsterfan
Feb 19 2014, 11:06 AM
Anybody ever tried to use NACA ducts in the rocker panels to get cold air intake?
My thought is this:
1. Ditch the jack points in the longs.
2. Put NACA ducts in this area (or just behind the jack points if step #1 above is not desired)
Note: The duct should go through the long (ie. into the interior of the long).
3. Run the piping up
through the longs and out through a hole in the engine bay sheet metal (hell hole area).
Heck, there is already a hole there anyways on most cars!
4. Note: This would be done on driver and passenger sides with corresponding hole in the the driver's side "heck hole" (since it is usually not as bad as the passenger side).
Ok, that should be clear as mud.
walterolin
Feb 8 2016, 09:31 PM
Anybody belong to Linkedln? He is profiled there:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-hulton-2a7541b0
Mueller
Feb 8 2016, 09:38 PM
QUOTE(pvollma @ Feb 19 2014, 05:37 AM)
QUOTE
I would avoid buying from this person.
Thank you, sfrenck! You're the only one who actually read my request for information on the vendor, not the efficacy of the cold air intake. I've always questioned the location and size of the stock air intake on the 2.0L, especially given the aerodynamics of getting air into the engine bay at speed. My plan is to do my own evaluation of a solution, so I was curious as to whether or not this vendor was someone I wanted to include in that evaluation. You've answered that question. Thanks again.
The use of "I think x amount of HP increase" should be enough for a grown adult to want to avoid this product.
Any company that belives in their products dyno or show real data.
Chris Pincetich
Feb 9 2016, 12:04 AM
malcolm2
Feb 9 2016, 11:21 AM
QUOTE(walterolin @ Feb 8 2016, 09:31 PM)
Anybody belong to Linkedln? He is profiled there:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-hulton-2a7541b0He has 4 connections..... is that counter like his web page counter...?
I found this on Samba about the product....
"But for every shiny or brightly colored lollipop there is a potential sucker"
NFBrown
Feb 9 2016, 08:35 PM
Air intake under the car is a bad idea even with some kind of water trap. Years ago I bought a dead Alfa that had eaten water when it was driven through a big puddle. The intake was just above the bumper and the air cleaner had drains. The poor car had two bent rods and two cracked cylinder liners.
Nick
76-914
Feb 9 2016, 09:10 PM
I wont comment on his product but he certainly has command of the English language.
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