Flares are actually from Porsche.
remaining parts to be removed, then media and plastic blasting
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Just arrived at the shop is another 914 for the GT treatment! The owner has had this car from new!
Flares are actually from Porsche.
remaining parts to be removed, then media and plastic blasting
Flares are actually from Porsche.
remaining parts to be removed, then media and plastic blasting
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QUOTE(The Metal Surgeon @ Mar 25 2014, 07:04 PM) 
Flares are actually from Porsche.
Cool, but won't make them fit any better than the repros ...
I look forward to watching your work... 
Nice ATS wheels! I've always liked the way they look.
--DD
--DD
maybe i should start selling pop corn as a side job!
QUOTE(The Metal Surgeon @ Mar 26 2014, 09:09 AM)
maybe i should start selling pop corn as a side job!
As long as it came with free body work, I'm pretty sure you could make a MINT selling popcorn!
To Sir Andy's point: It'd be interesting to see your thoughts on the original flares vs the repros. I'm guessing (hoping) that he bought them a LONG time ago.
Can't wait!
Oh...almost forgot...
[quote name='CptTripps' date='Mar 26 2014, 06:23 AM' post='2016195']
To Sir Andy's point: It'd be interesting to see your thoughts on the original flares vs the repros. I'm guessing (hoping) that he bought them a LONG time ago.
Here are my .02cents...if I was was mine, and I was putting all the effort into this conversion...I too would attempt to install as many "factory" parts as possible.
Only when they are NLA would I install a repo.
Oh...flame on.
To Sir Andy's point: It'd be interesting to see your thoughts on the original flares vs the repros. I'm guessing (hoping) that he bought them a LONG time ago.
Here are my .02cents...if I was was mine, and I was putting all the effort into this conversion...I too would attempt to install as many "factory" parts as possible.
Only when they are NLA would I install a repo.
Oh...flame on.
$4K vs $1K. Both requre welding and metal work. (yes, the oem do start out smoother) Repo's are slightly thicker metal. Both look the same under paint.
My money would be on the person fitting, welding, finishing and painting over 40 year old steel vs new.
My money would be on the person fitting, welding, finishing and painting over 40 year old steel vs new.
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 25 2014, 10:24 PM)
QUOTE(The Metal Surgeon @ Mar 25 2014, 07:04 PM)
Flares are actually from Porsche.
Cool, but won't make them fit any better than the repros ...
Very true, but it does make them thinner (gauge), therefore lighter than the repros
Yes!! Another car flared!! This all plays nicely into my hands to have the last non-flared Porsche 914 on the planet!! Mu-whaaaa-haaaaahaaaaa!!
excited to see this one
I've got a local car that I can't afford to fix..
but I watch and buy lotto..... so someday!
brant
I've got a local car that I can't afford to fix..
but I watch and buy lotto..... so someday!
brant
QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 26 2014, 09:45 AM)
My money would be on the person fitting, welding, finishing and painting over 40 year old steel vs new.
EXACTLY! I'd rather have reproduction flares with him installing them. Put the extra 3K into a talented "Metal Surgeon" to do the install.
QUOTE(CptTripps @ Mar 26 2014, 09:23 AM)
QUOTE(The Metal Surgeon @ Mar 26 2014, 09:09 AM)
maybe i should start selling pop corn as a side job!
As long as it came with free body work, I'm pretty sure you could make a MINT selling popcorn!
To Sir Andy's point: It'd be interesting to see your thoughts on the original flares vs the repros. I'm guessing (hoping) that he bought them a LONG time ago.
Can't wait!
Oh...almost forgot...
Ones from a LONG time ago were usually green or one of these other versions of ruddy prime.
Also, I've had un-mounted AAs' and originals side-by-side and there is no difference in the gauge of material.
Man, what metal work ! Truly excellent.
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Mar 26 2014, 12:41 PM)
<pictures cut for length>
Those are yours?
Can I hate you for ever, now?
Or maybe would you adopt me? (Just be careful about your response to "can I borrow the car"...
)--DD
QUOTE(boxsterfan @ Mar 26 2014, 10:27 AM)
Yes!! Another car flared!! This all plays nicely into my hands to have the last non-flared Porsche 914 on the planet!! Mu-whaaaa-haaaaahaaaaa!!
As poor as I am I figure it might come down to you and me. And Brant of course.QUOTE(CptTripps @ Mar 26 2014, 01:28 PM)
QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 26 2014, 09:45 AM)
My money would be on the person fitting, welding, finishing and painting over 40 year old steel vs new.
EXACTLY! I'd rather have reproduction flares with him installing them. Put the extra 3K into a talented "Metal Surgeon" to do the install.
Body loaded up for Plastic and media blasting
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Mar 26 2014, 12:41 PM)
QUOTE(CptTripps @ Mar 26 2014, 09:23 AM)
QUOTE(The Metal Surgeon @ Mar 26 2014, 09:09 AM)
maybe i should start selling pop corn as a side job!
As long as it came with free body work, I'm pretty sure you could make a MINT selling popcorn!
To Sir Andy's point: It'd be interesting to see your thoughts on the original flares vs the repros. I'm guessing (hoping) that he bought them a LONG time ago.
Can't wait!
Oh...almost forgot...
Ones from a LONG time ago were usually green or one of these other versions of ruddy prime.
Also, I've had un-mounted AAs' and originals side-by-side and there is no difference in the gauge of material.
Man, what metal work ! Truly excellent.
Nice stash there!
and back from Plastic and Media blasting.First few pics,last picture is a left hand rear quarter repair done by a Porsche dealership back in the day!
I just installed my Steel Flares today and they look awesome
But the 916 front and rear bumper are too poor of quality to continue
In fact they are total garbage.
The worst my body man has seen in 35 yrs.
Does anyone know where the good quality 916 bumpers come from??
Let me know Please.
Only painting to go and I am driving!!!!
But the 916 front and rear bumper are too poor of quality to continue
In fact they are total garbage.
The worst my body man has seen in 35 yrs.
Does anyone know where the good quality 916 bumpers come from??
Let me know Please.
Only painting to go and I am driving!!!!
QUOTE(Phil Plummer @ May 2 2014, 08:14 PM)
I just installed my Steel Flares today and they look awesome
But the 916 front and rear bumper are too poor of quality to continue
In fact they are total garbage.
The worst my body man has seen in 35 yrs.
Does anyone know where the good quality 916 bumpers come from??
Let me know Please.
Only painting to go and I am driving!!!!
Try
QRS
A.I.R.
And Patrick Motorsports (I think some of his glass comes from vendors).
Seems all these FG products will need much work.
OP,
What is your name?
Also, do you bother to take any undercoating off or does the place you use blast everything off?
What is your name?
Also, do you bother to take any undercoating off or does the place you use blast everything off?
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 2 2014, 06:50 PM)
OP,
What is your name?
Also, do you bother to take any undercoating off or does the place you use blast everything off?
my name is Jon Bingham
We let the blasters take care of the undercoating.
Jon,
Great work, always fun to watch.
What do you pay for blasting and do you specify they use certain media to prevent warping or do you just let them make the call depending upon the issues they run into like rust, undercoating, plastic filler etc.?
Great work, always fun to watch.
What do you pay for blasting and do you specify they use certain media to prevent warping or do you just let them make the call depending upon the issues they run into like rust, undercoating, plastic filler etc.?
Great question.
My brother sand blasted a 59 sunroof coupe in 1976 (?) had it painted then we ( with my sister ! 3 across ! )drove it to Seattle/Tacoma for the Parade.
Every time we opened or closed the doors we left a small pile of sand.
It was everywhere. Every moving part had a gritty sound.
How to avoid ?
My brother sand blasted a 59 sunroof coupe in 1976 (?) had it painted then we ( with my sister ! 3 across ! )drove it to Seattle/Tacoma for the Parade.
Every time we opened or closed the doors we left a small pile of sand.
It was everywhere. Every moving part had a gritty sound.
How to avoid ?
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 3 2014, 08:18 AM)
Jon,
Great work, always fun to watch.
What do you pay for blasting and do you specify they use certain media to prevent warping or do you just let them make the call depending upon the issues they run into like rust, undercoating, plastic filler etc.?
this car cost $700 to blast. We specify plastic on the outside sheetmetal ,even go as far as labeling and media for all structural.If your not sure on a certain part,label it for plastic.
the surface finish difference will be that plastic will give a more natural finish versus a coarse finish from media.
its a good idea to have a rotisserie to help remove all the media!
thanks for reading the thread
QUOTE(boxsterfan @ Mar 26 2014, 06:27 AM)
Yes!! Another car flared!! This all plays nicely into my hands to have the last non-flared Porsche 914 on the planet!! Mu-whaaaa-haaaaahaaaaa!!
Sorry to disappoint you Mr Bond. My 6 conversion will be narrow. Yes! Narrow, as God intended.
Jon, your threads and your artistry are fun to follow and learn from. thank you for the pictures and it helps those of us who are going to do these operations in the future.
Jon- I love viewing your builds and you are a true master at your craft. I think Scotty B. and Jon should have a "build off" competition.....
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restoration begins of the inner front structure....original state
restoration begins of the inner front structure....original state
Looking forward to my appointment with the Dr. in April!
Such amazing work!
QUOTE(The Metal Surgeon @ May 3 2014, 06:51 PM)
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 3 2014, 08:18 AM)
Jon,
Great work, always fun to watch.
What do you pay for blasting and do you specify they use certain media to prevent warping or do you just let them make the call depending upon the issues they run into like rust, undercoating, plastic filler etc.?
this car cost $700 to blast. We specify plastic on the outside sheetmetal ,even go as far as labeling and media for all structural.If your not sure on a certain part,label it for plastic.
the surface finish difference will be that plastic will give a more natural finish versus a coarse finish from media.
its a good idea to have a rotisserie to help remove all the media!
thanks for reading the thread
Thinking a complete strip is the only way to start one of these projects.
Jon- how do you keep it from flashing? Zinc wash?
Live and learn
QUOTE(bulitt @ Oct 22 2015, 12:57 PM)
Thinking a complete strip is the only way to start one of these projects.
Jon- how do you keep it from flashing? Zinc wash?
Live and learn
Just for reference, I had a BMW 320 acid dipped in Dallas, TX. Achieves the same result as media blasting. Cost approx $1500 +my time in transportation. They sprayed the car with some sort of solution to keep it from flash rusting, but it's only good for 2-3 months
QUOTE(jmitro @ Oct 22 2015, 10:09 AM)
QUOTE(bulitt @ Oct 22 2015, 12:57 PM)
Thinking a complete strip is the only way to start one of these projects.
Jon- how do you keep it from flashing? Zinc wash?
Live and learn
Just for reference, I had a BMW 320 acid dipped in Dallas, TX. Achieves the same result as media blasting. Cost approx $1500 +my time in transportation. They sprayed the car with some sort of solution to keep it from flash rusting, but it's only good for 2-3 months
Hope you pulled the heater ducts out of the rockers first!
QUOTE(Rob-O @ Oct 22 2015, 10:21 AM)
QUOTE(jmitro @ Oct 22 2015, 10:09 AM)
QUOTE(bulitt @ Oct 22 2015, 12:57 PM)
Thinking a complete strip is the only way to start one of these projects.
Jon- how do you keep it from flashing? Zinc wash?
Live and learn
Just for reference, I had a BMW 320 acid dipped in Dallas, TX. Achieves the same result as media blasting. Cost approx $1500 +my time in transportation. They sprayed the car with some sort of solution to keep it from flash rusting, but it's only good for 2-3 months
Hope you pulled the heater ducts out of the rockers first!
edit....sorry to hijack the thread.
good work surgeon. Carry on!
good work surgeon. Carry on!
donor rear right quarter panel graft in ,including inner sale panel rust repairs
in progress
in progress
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