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Jett
Hello, we are restoring our 73 2.0 to factory original and are looking for a NOS or Mint quality interior carpet set. The original carpet was black loop pile but would use charcoal if available. We would also take any individual pieces.

Any help would be greatly appreciate!
Tom_T
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You'll need to give folks a bit more info than that to find NOS carpet.

Try adding color & confirm that it was loop pile in your 73 2.0.
... Black, Charcoal, Brown, Tan/Beige & Dark Tan (oatmeal-ish mix of tan & brown) were all available selections when new.

AutoAtlanta has some NOS carpet bits and limited colors/types in NOS roll stock.

Other than that, some stray members may have some bits & pieces.

As an alternative - since NOS carpet sets/pieces today are like hens' teeth/unobtanium & are now 30-40 years old (so the edging at least is now brittle) - maybe consider a good repro set made up of the loop pile (or perlon if not loop in the Appearance Group for your 73 2L) from one of these places:

Lakewell.com (Belgium - probably best quality carpet from GER/EU sources)

Auto International in Fallbrook Ca

World Upholstery in Ojai/Ventura CA

& there's a third one up in the PNW whose name escapes me now, but they do advertise in Panorama & Excellence magazines (as do the other 2 USA guys).

PS - stick with the German or EU carpets, as the Domestic (USA) carpets are too shiny & don't wear as well.

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Larmo63
I bought my Perlon set from "Appbiz" on eBay. Nice guy, and a good set....
Jett
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 16 2014, 03:21 PM) *

welcome.png

You'll need to give folks a bit more info than that to find NOS carpet.

Try adding color & confirm that it was loop pile in your 73 2.0.
... Black, Charcoal, Brown, Tan/Beige & Dark Tan (oatmeal-ish mix of tan & brown) were all available selections when new.

AutoAtlanta has some NOS carpet bits and limited colors/types in NOS roll stock.

Other than that, some stray members may have some bits & pieces.

As an alternative - since NOS carpet sets/pieces today are like hens' teeth/unobtanium & are now 30-40 years old (so the edging at least is now brittle) - maybe consider a good repro set made up of the loop pile (or perlon if not loop in the Appearance Group for your 73 2L) from one of these places:

Lakewell.com (Belgium - probably best quality carpet from GER/EU sources)

Auto International in Fallbrook Ca

World Upholstery in Ojai/Ventura CA

& there's a third one up in the PNW whose name escapes me now, but they do advertise in Panorama & Excellence magazines (as do the other 2 USA guys).

PS - stick with the German or EU carpets, as the Domestic (USA) carpets are too shiny & don't wear as well.

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Thanks for the advice but really want to keep the car all factory, but of course reality will dictate smile.gif

The original carpet was black loop pile but would convert to charcoal if available.

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914runnow
QUOTE(Jett @ Aug 16 2014, 06:01 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 16 2014, 03:21 PM) *

welcome.png

You'll need to give folks a bit more info than that to find NOS carpet.

Try adding color & confirm that it was loop pile in your 73 2.0.
... Black, Charcoal, Brown, Tan/Beige & Dark Tan (oatmeal-ish mix of tan & brown) were all available selections when new.

AutoAtlanta has some NOS carpet bits and limited colors/types in NOS roll stock.

Other than that, some stray members may have some bits & pieces.

As an alternative - since NOS carpet sets/pieces today are like hens' teeth/unobtanium & are now 30-40 years old (so the edging at least is now brittle) - maybe consider a good repro set made up of the loop pile (or perlon if not loop in the Appearance Group for your 73 2L) from one of these places:

Lakewell.com (Belgium - probably best quality carpet from GER/EU sources)

Auto International in Fallbrook Ca

World Upholstery in Ojai/Ventura CA

& there's a third one up in the PNW whose name escapes me now, but they do advertise in Panorama & Excellence magazines (as do the other 2 USA guys).

PS - stick with the German or EU carpets, as the Domestic (USA) carpets are too shiny & don't wear as well.

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Thanks for the advice but really want to keep the car all factory, but of course reality will dictate smile.gif

The original carpet was black loop pile but would convert to charcoal if available.

Ad updated

I have a set..farbe 701..charcoal loop..
all nos..
one kicker though..itz 27500$$ but includes a concour car..!!
at no extra charge..just will not fit in one of those USPS boxes though..
smokey
QUOTE(914runnow @ Aug 17 2014, 12:00 AM) *

QUOTE(Jett @ Aug 16 2014, 06:01 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 16 2014, 03:21 PM) *

welcome.png

You'll need to give folks a bit more info than that to find NOS carpet.

Try adding color & confirm that it was loop pile in your 73 2.0.
... Black, Charcoal, Brown, Tan/Beige & Dark Tan (oatmeal-ish mix of tan & brown) were all available selections when new.

AutoAtlanta has some NOS carpet bits and limited colors/types in NOS roll stock.

Other than that, some stray members may have some bits & pieces.

As an alternative - since NOS carpet sets/pieces today are like hens' teeth/unobtanium & are now 30-40 years old (so the edging at least is now brittle) - maybe consider a good repro set made up of the loop pile (or perlon if not loop in the Appearance Group for your 73 2L) from one of these places:

Lakewell.com (Belgium - probably best quality carpet from GER/EU sources)

Auto International in Fallbrook Ca

World Upholstery in Ojai/Ventura CA

& there's a third one up in the PNW whose name escapes me now, but they do advertise in Panorama & Excellence magazines (as do the other 2 USA guys).

PS - stick with the German or EU carpets, as the Domestic (USA) carpets are too shiny & don't wear as well.

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Thanks for the advice but really want to keep the car all factory, but of course reality will dictate smile.gif

The original carpet was black loop pile but would convert to charcoal if available.

Ad updated

I have a set..farbe 701..charcoal loop..
all nos..
one kicker though..itz 27500$$ but includes a concour car..!!
at no extra charge..just will not fit in one of those USPS boxes though..



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Jett
Lol kinda what I expected but doesn't hurt too much to ask smile.gif
IronHillRestorations
I have an NOS loop charcoal/ silverknit (black with the silver white threads) driver's side piece
Jett
QUOTE(9146986 @ Aug 17 2014, 12:57 PM) *

I have an NOS loop charcoal/ silverknit (black with the silver white threads) driver's side piece

Can you PM me with a pic and cost?

Thanks!
Alice
QUOTE(9146986 @ Aug 17 2014, 12:57 PM) *

I have an NOS loop charcoal/ silverknit (black with the silver white threads) driver's side piece



Ooooo,
I have been looking for that 1 piece for ten years now .
Pm sent .
Second in line .

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smokey
QUOTE(Alice @ Aug 17 2014, 06:24 PM) *

QUOTE(9146986 @ Aug 17 2014, 12:57 PM) *

I have an NOS loop charcoal/ silverknit (black with the silver white threads) driver's side piece



Ooooo,
I have been looking for that 1 piece for ten years now .
Pm sent .
Second in line .

shades.gif


smoke.gif
Tom_T
QUOTE(Jett @ Aug 16 2014, 07:01 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 16 2014, 03:21 PM) *

welcome.png

AutoAtlanta has some NOS carpet bits and limited colors/types in NOS roll stock.



Thanks for the advice but really want to keep the car all factory, but of course reality will dictate smile.gif

The original carpet was black loop pile but would convert to charcoal if available.

Ad updated


As noted above ... call AA & talk directly to George Hussey & tell him you want a all original resto, and see if one of his folks can go up in the attice to pull a full set together.

I went up there myself one time when back in ATL for business, and was able to find a partial set of factory dark tan pieces - but not all were there - so it's hit-n-miss on NOS factory carpet.

I still need Dark Tan for the Driverside floor, the 2 rear behind the seat pieces, the passenger side/longitudenal, and the the upper front floor 2-3 pieces. And there is no good repro one (no AI's "cinnamon" is not close enough).

So not sure what I'll do?? sad.gif

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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mepstein
"As noted above ... call AA & talk directly to George Hussey & tell him you want a all original resto, and see if one of his folks can go up in the attice to pull a full set together."

Then bend over and brace yourself.
smokey
QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 17 2014, 08:41 PM) *

"As noted above ... call AA & talk directly to George Hussey & tell him you want a all original resto, and see if one of his folks can go up in the attice to pull a full set together."

Then bend over and brace yourself.


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Cheers
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Tom_T
QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 17 2014, 08:41 PM) *

"As noted above ... call AA & talk directly to George Hussey & tell him you want a all original resto, and see if one of his folks can go up in the attice to pull a full set together."

Then bend over and brace yourself.


Not many choices for NOS left Mark, so he'll be bending wherever he gets it! sad.gif
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mepstein
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 18 2014, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 17 2014, 08:41 PM) *

"As noted above ... call AA & talk directly to George Hussey & tell him you want a all original resto, and see if one of his folks can go up in the attice to pull a full set together."

Then bend over and brace yourself.


Not many choices for NOS left Mark, so he'll be bending wherever he gets it! sad.gif
beerchug.gif

George will charge extra for the lube and ship it after it's needed.
Jett
QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 18 2014, 11:56 AM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 18 2014, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Aug 17 2014, 08:41 PM) *

"As noted above ... call AA & talk directly to George Hussey & tell him you want a all original resto, and see if one of his folks can go up in the attice to pull a full set together."

Then bend over and brace yourself.


Not many choices for NOS left Mark, so he'll be bending wherever he gets it! sad.gif
beerchug.gif

George will charge extra for the lube and ship it after it's needed.

I appreciate the advice.

Btw I dont mind bending over for the right cause, but lube is a must!, sheeplove.gif
IronHillRestorations
PM's sent. Battery in my camera died and is on the charge. Pics tomorrow for sure.
IronHillRestorations
Carpet pics. Sorry for the fuzzy shot of the part sticker.
Tom_T
QUOTE(Jett @ Aug 16 2014, 07:01 PM) *


Thanks for the advice but really want to keep the car all factory, but of course reality will dictate smile.gif

The original carpet was black loop pile but would convert to charcoal if available.

Ad updated


Jett -

PS - 1 - welcome.png

PS - 2 -

If you guys have a numbers matching numbers 914 2.0 & are looking to keep it all as original for concours or resale value purposes, then you'll want to stick with the original paint & interior colors & fabrics (e.g.: basketweave vinyl or corduroy seat inserts) as it was sold new & from the factory.

By this time the carpet in there could've been changed from the charcoal/silver knit color to black by a PO.

Only way to know is to either have the window sticker &/or original dealer sales docs with it, or buy a COA from PCNA - which isn't cheap nor always correct, since their people doing them are careless & don't both to check the period correct factory ID numbers for the colors & parts.

As a member of PCA &/or with their Porsche Classics/PCNA ads in Panorama & Excellence magazines, you can get $10-20 off their $120+ price. You''e need to send them a pic of your 2.0L engine case number (starts with a GA####### & is located near the oil filler/breather tower on top front) in order to get them to both confirm matching numbers & list it as a 2.0L on your COA (you can send the transaxle # on the lower spline of the case too, but they most often did not record them at the factory on 914/4's).

If you're just doing a period correct resto for your own use as a driver &/or for local PCA etc. shows & concours for the Halibut, then just go with the Lakewell repro set in whichever COA &/or other docs says was on the car originally.

Very few car clubs local shows & events will judge on perfect exact originality - and really can't unless they have a 914 expert as a judge - and only AACA events seem to look at it at all, and then mostly for period correct - vs. - actual NOS or original parts on a resto car.

For PCA & the others - all original or survivor class/division cars generally have to be 10-25% all original stuff inside & out that actually came on the car - & not NOS replacements, except for wear items like tires, shocks, spark plugs, etc. So I think your restoration works puts you out of that arena anyway.

PCA doesn't judge originality - except at the national level at Parade, & sometimes as tie-breakers in the Zone-wide finals (unless your PNW Zone is different - down here in Zone 8 where I judge it never comes into it in the local Regions' [chapters] concours - unless somebody has done a major engine conversion or racer set-up, then they can go into our "Special Interest" division).

A top quality repro pile carpet will save you a chunk of change & the carpet material & binding will be fresh & pliable, vs. stiff 30-40 year old pile & plastic edge binding, heel pad, locking-peg holes, etc.

If you drive it much with NOS carpet, you will see some wear & damage sooner than later, just cuz the plastics in the pile & vinyl binding is older.

So either way, pick which fits your plans & keep those things above in mind.
...wear, cost, availability, ultimate purpose of the resto, etc. are your key factors.

PS - 3 -

9146986 with the NOS set above looks to be an outstanding NOS silverknit/charcoal set - if that is your 914's OE color! drooley.gif

I wish I could find a full NOS set for my resto in the Dark Tan (#704 IIRC)! sad.gif

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Jett
Thanks Tom for the great information and direction. For the 2.0, it's important to me that the vehicle be reproduction free and as close to showroom condition as possible...without breaking the bank smile.gif. As far as wear goes, that's ok as long as it's my wear and tear.

On the flip side my 1.7 is composed of many great reproduction parts smile.gif

Cheers

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 20 2014, 01:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Jett @ Aug 16 2014, 07:01 PM) *


Thanks for the advice but really want to keep the car all factory, but of course reality will dictate smile.gif

The original carpet was black loop pile but would convert to charcoal if available.

Ad updated


Jett -

PS - 1 - welcome.png

PS - 2 -

If you guys have a numbers matching numbers 914 2.0 & are looking to keep it all as original for concours or resale value purposes, then you'll want to stick with the original paint & interior colors & fabrics (e.g.: basketweave vinyl or corduroy seat inserts) as it was sold new & from the factory.

By this time the carpet in there could've been changed from the charcoal/silver knit color to black by a PO.

Only way to know is to either have the window sticker &/or original dealer sales docs with it, or buy a COA from PCNA - which isn't cheap nor always correct, since their people doing them are careless & don't both to check the period correct factory ID numbers for the colors & parts.

As a member of PCA &/or with their Porsche Classics/PCNA ads in Panorama & Excellence magazines, you can get $10-20 off their $120+ price. You''e need to send them a pic of your 2.0L engine case number (starts with a GA####### & is located near the oil filler/breather tower on top front) in order to get them to both confirm matching numbers & list it as a 2.0L on your COA (you can send the transaxle # on the lower spline of the case too, but they most often did not record them at the factory on 914/4's).

If you're just doing a period correct resto for your own use as a driver &/or for local PCA etc. shows & concours for the Halibut, then just go with the Lakewell repro set in whichever COA &/or other docs says was on the car originally.

Very few car clubs local shows & events will judge on perfect exact originality - and really can't unless they have a 914 expert as a judge - and only AACA events seem to look at it at all, and then mostly for period correct - vs. - actual NOS or original parts on a resto car.

For PCA & the others - all original or survivor class/division cars generally have to be 10-25% all original stuff inside & out that actually came on the car - & not NOS replacements, except for wear items like tires, shocks, spark plugs, etc. So I think your restoration works puts you out of that arena anyway.

PCA doesn't judge originality - except at the national level at Parade, & sometimes as tie-breakers in the Zone-wide finals (unless your PNW Zone is different - down here in Zone 8 where I judge it never comes into it in the local Regions' [chapters] concours - unless somebody has done a major engine conversion or racer set-up, then they can go into our "Special Interest" division).

A top quality repro pile carpet will save you a chunk of change & the carpet material & binding will be fresh & pliable, vs. stiff 30-40 year old pile & plastic edge binding, heel pad, locking-peg holes, etc.

If you drive it much with NOS carpet, you will see some wear & damage sooner than later, just cuz the plastics in the pile & vinyl binding is older.

So either way, pick which fits your plans & keep those things above in mind.
...wear, cost, availability, ultimate purpose of the resto, etc. are your key factors.

PS - 3 -

9146986 with the NOS set above looks to be an outstanding NOS silverknit/charcoal set - if that is your 914's OE color! drooley.gif

I wish I could find a full NOS set for my resto in the Dark Tan (#704 IIRC)! sad.gif

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Tom_T
Okay then, go with the correct color - black or charcoal - then for the NOS carpet set, based on you 2L's COA &/or window sticker/new sale docs.

Correct colors etc. will net you best restored value.

You can use a Lloyd plush or those Coco mats over them if you like when driving - or better yet, just save the L & R NOS floor pieces for show, and use those mats the rest of the time.

Show us some pix when she's done! first.gif
Jett
Thanks again Tom, will send pics when done.

Cheers

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 21 2014, 04:20 PM) *

Okay then, go with the correct color - black or charcoal - then for the NOS carpet set, based on you 2L's COA &/or window sticker/new sale docs.

Correct colors etc. will net you best restored value.

You can use a Lloyd plush or those Coco mats over them if you like when driving - or better yet, just save the L & R NOS floor pieces for show, and use those mats the rest of the time.

Show us some pix when she's done! first.gif

Tom_T
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I just meant to put a post on here at the Originality & History Forum or the Garage Forum, so everyone can see your end product!

... you don't have to "send" me pix. smile.gif
Jett
Lol, still learning the extent of this forum and protocol.

Cheers

Btw. I do have two VIN number questions, do you mind if I send a PM?

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Aug 21 2014, 09:43 PM) *

biggrin.gif

I just meant to put a post on here at the Originality & History Forum or the Garage Forum, so everyone can see your end product!

... you don't have to "send" me pix. smile.gif

Tom_T
QUOTE(Jett @ Aug 22 2014, 11:05 AM) *

Lol, still learning the extent of this forum and protocol.

Cheers

Btw. I do have two VIN number questions, do you mind if I send a PM?


Yeah, sorry, but I'm travelling & my time online is spotty, so it may have a delay in reply, as with this rply later.

Cheers!
Tom
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