Mikey914
Oct 15 2014, 07:22 PM
Threw out some options as I'm looking at making these. The numbers are budgetary. If we don't get many takers I may still make but cost will be more. If these are wildly popular, I can and do reduce the cost if possible.
Going to the the lens and rubber for sure, but I'm thinking the electrical has issues too, so maybe the entire assembly.
What's your .02
mepstein
Oct 15 2014, 07:24 PM
i'll take the complete assembly for 2 cars. thanks,mark
bdstone914
Oct 15 2014, 07:32 PM
Yes they are often corroded and the ground terminal breaks. Can't see much point in offering lens only. Buyer would have to drill out old rivets and install new lens without cracking to save a few bucks. These should he very popular. I can't find good used ones and quickly sold the remaining decent ones I had.
Funny think is when they were available a few years ago they were only $14 each.
rick 918-S
Oct 15 2014, 07:43 PM
Yes two cars
914Sixer
Oct 15 2014, 07:55 PM
AA has reproduced them. They are selling for $59 for complete assembly.
bdstone914
Oct 15 2014, 08:38 PM
QUOTE(914Sixer @ Oct 15 2014, 06:55 PM)
AA has reproduced them. They are selling for $59 for complete assembly.
Anybody seen one to check the quality?
I would still buy one from Mark even if it cost more.
barebrad
Oct 15 2014, 08:41 PM
I'd be in for 2 cars as well!
bigkensteele
Oct 15 2014, 09:03 PM
QUOTE(914Sixer @ Oct 15 2014, 05:55 PM)
AA has reproduced them. They are selling for $59 for complete assembly.
I have a set of AA reproduced Euro taillight lenses on my car, and if Mark produced a set that actually fit, I would gladly replace them.
walterolin
Oct 15 2014, 09:17 PM
One car.
And ditto on the taillight lens. Looked good in the box, but didn't fit well and the glue joints were weak.
Mikey914
Oct 15 2014, 10:11 PM
QUOTE(walterolin @ Oct 15 2014, 08:17 PM)
One car.
And ditto on the taillight lens. Looked good in the box, but didn't fit well and the glue joints were weak.
What was glued?
The metal was riveted, the rubber and lens should each be one piece.
pilothyer
Oct 15 2014, 10:29 PM
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Oct 15 2014, 11:11 PM)
QUOTE(walterolin @ Oct 15 2014, 08:17 PM)
One car.
And ditto on the taillight lens. Looked good in the box, but didn't fit well and the glue joints were weak.
What was glued?
The metal was riveted, the rubber and lens should each be one piece.
He was referring to the euro taillight lenses offered in a group buy by GH some time back.
Mikey914
Oct 15 2014, 10:43 PM
Got ya.
Yes I did make the molds to do them. I too had issues with the gluing. I may have some light at the end of the tunnel with them, as I did find a bonding agent the shows promise. I just need to make more up and try it. May be a few weeks, but as I get more time I'll be able to do so.
-mark
jeeperjohn56
Oct 16 2014, 12:46 AM
Mark, I'm in for two cars, let me know when to send payment. John
clapeza
Oct 16 2014, 06:50 AM
I'm in for a set of 2, for my '70.
Chester
AndyB
Oct 16 2014, 09:25 AM
2 cars worth
Thanks
76-914
Oct 16 2014, 09:29 AM
Mark, Bruce made a good point. These items are notorious for problems with the electrical. Mini spades that break and electrical shorts out the kazoo. Maybe they could be produced with a 6" insulated pig tail and a pair of bullet crimp connectors (to be connected in the enclosed trunk area) included with each lens assm.???
Johny Blackstain
Oct 16 2014, 09:39 AM
Options, I like options to be available. Owning 2 cars, one in immaculate shape & one in more typical shape I like having options.
sbsix
Oct 16 2014, 09:42 AM
Mark, I'm in for one car.
Jonathan Livesay
Oct 16 2014, 10:26 AM
I would take 2 sets.
Edit: To answer the original question, making them complete with electrical would be the way to go.
Mikey914
Oct 16 2014, 10:55 AM
QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 16 2014, 08:29 AM)
Mark, Bruce made a good point. These items are notorious for problems with the electrical. Mini spades that break and electrical shorts out the kazoo. Maybe they could be produced with a 6" insulated pig tail and a pair of bullet crimp connectors (to be connected in the enclosed trunk area) included with each lens assm.???
I think there is some opportunity to improve the design. Use of stainless may be part of it. Making the connection out the back of the rubber section may be improved also.
Also, an option for an internal with LED would be good, as they are not affected by vibration, and a cool white looks close to a regular bulb.
Rleog
Oct 16 2014, 12:34 PM
The electrical mini spades on mine are corroded/gone. I'd be in for a set of the complete units. Hope you go that route.
Kansas 914
Oct 16 2014, 01:15 PM
I would be in for 2 sets.
Mike Bellis
Oct 16 2014, 11:14 PM
I need 2 assemblies.
narino
Oct 16 2014, 11:40 PM
In for a set for one car.
Niklas
Oct 17 2014, 07:22 AM
Your parts are so good!
I need parts for at least 2 cars.
no1uno
Oct 17 2014, 10:05 AM
I'd be in for a couple of sets
Sleepin
Oct 17 2014, 10:41 AM
I'd be in for a set.
If Mark's parts were twice as much as AA's...I would buy from Mark.
bigkensteele
Oct 17 2014, 03:36 PM
1 set for me, please.
Harpo
Oct 17 2014, 06:25 PM
Can these be also mounted in to your fiberglass bumper tops? Could someone post a photo. I have back dated my bumpers with fiberglass bumper tops but I currently have no license plate lights.
Thanks
David
Steve
Oct 17 2014, 08:41 PM
QUOTE(Harpo @ Oct 17 2014, 05:25 PM)
Can these be also mounted in to your fiberglass bumper tops? Could someone post a photo. I have back dated my bumpers with fiberglass bumper tops but I currently have no license plate lights.
Thanks
David
They make lighted license plate franes. That's what I used.
Bossman
Oct 17 2014, 09:32 PM
I would be in for a set of the complete assemblies. Ditto on the pigtail into the trunk.
Mikey914
Nov 13 2014, 02:48 AM
I will have the lens only in about 8 days. Pulled the 1st one. It has a few small bubbles in the outer edge but looks good.
dw914six
Nov 13 2014, 06:35 AM
I will take 2 sets.
Thanks
brant
Nov 13 2014, 09:57 AM
Let me know if these happen. Nice product
Mikey914
Nov 13 2014, 12:16 PM
Just showing progress.
hndyhrr
Nov 13 2014, 08:31 PM
QUOTE(Sleepin @ Oct 17 2014, 08:41 AM)
I'd be in for a set.
If Mark's parts were twice as much as AA's...I would buy from Mark.
Harpo
Nov 15 2014, 06:59 AM
Any chance these will be LEDs?
mharmon
Nov 15 2014, 10:18 AM
I'm in for 2 sets
Mikey914
Nov 15 2014, 05:04 PM
QUOTE(Harpo @ Nov 15 2014, 04:59 AM)
Any chance these will be LEDs?
Yes that will be an option.
SKL1
Nov 15 2014, 05:33 PM
I'd go for two sets as well.
Mikey914
Feb 11 2015, 09:42 PM
Got the rubber done, it was kind of a bit$h, but the Guts are left.
We are looking at 2 options.
1- OEM style with bayonet bulb
2-LED with choice of warm white (like the bulb), or the cool white (more LED looking white light)
Either way the cost for the internals will be slightly more than we expected. The OEM style will be $2.50 more than anticipated, and the LED will be $5, but will include the bulb.
As a further improvement we are looking at sealing the LED version and providing with just the 2 wires protruding to splice in. This will eliminate the issue with Vibration and corrosion should be minimized.
This is where we are at so far.
Note that in picture 4 the holes do not line up. We may have to make adaptor plates. I'm starting another thread to see what is know about these. I've only had one early car and it was some time ago, so I need some feedback on this.
mepstein
Feb 11 2015, 10:02 PM
I'm still in. 1 reg set, 1 led set. thanks!
pgollender
Feb 11 2015, 10:13 PM
Mark, I was just re-conditioning my old ones on my '70, what a PIA !' Will need complete set for my '73. Why didn't you post last Friday, before I began ?
My time = $200/hour. Spent 1.25 hours... Coulda saved $150 of frustration.
Mikey914
Feb 11 2015, 10:23 PM
Paul, any pics would be appreciated, I'm trying to solve the mystery of holes. Do yours line up?
mepstein
Feb 11 2015, 10:36 PM
QUOTE(pgollender @ Feb 11 2015, 11:13 PM)
Mark, I was just re-conditioning my old ones on my '70, what a PIA !' Will need complete set for my '73. Why didn't you post last Friday, before I began ?
My time = $200/hour. Spent 1.25 hours... Coulda saved $150 of frustration.
Call me next time you need some work on your car. I only charge $100/hour so I can possibly save you thousands next time you have a big job.
pgollender
Feb 11 2015, 11:04 PM
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Feb 11 2015, 08:23 PM)
Paul, any pics would be appreciated, I'm trying to solve the mystery of holes. Do yours line up?
Mark the old lens dropped right into the old stock 1970 bumper holes, 65mm on center lens and bumper holes. Looked at the '73 and same measurements. The back of the electric chassis had some room to position within the 'receptacle' cavity in each of the '70 and '73
Click to view attachment I think because the old bumpers had that thin sheet metal plate you can put the screws in just about anywhere....if you push it a little. My '73 had two sets of holes on the left side, both were 65mm apart, but offset from each other about 2.5mm. I think the previous owner or mechanic just decided to punch in an extra set into fresh metal.
Dunno if that helps you or not
pgollender
Feb 11 2015, 11:13 PM
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 11 2015, 08:36 PM)
QUOTE(pgollender @ Feb 11 2015, 11:13 PM)
Mark, I was just re-conditioning my old ones on my '70, what a PIA !' Will need complete set for my '73. Why didn't you post last Friday, before I began ?
My time = $200/hour. Spent 1.25 hours... Coulda saved $150 of frustration.
Call me next time you need some work on your car. I only charge $100/hour so I can possibly save you thousands next time you have a big job.
Pennsylvania labor @$100/hour
= California labor @$200/hour
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