stevegm
Nov 26 2014, 03:10 PM
I have a potential project that I am considering. And I am looking for a word (or multiple words) that says "Porsche sports car," without actually saying the word "Porsche."
I considered - Rennsport. But, it screams racing (which is not my primary focus), and it seems so overused.
I know it is an odd request. But, I appreciate the help. Any ideas?
Elliot Cannon
Nov 26 2014, 03:12 PM
Auto racing?
falcor75
Nov 26 2014, 03:15 PM
A Porsche specialized shop about 50 miles from me here in Sweden
podiummotorsports
Nov 26 2014, 03:19 PM
To me it means racing because I have seen it used for many race teams. Rennwerks was a race team out of the bay area and I know a number of shops that use Renn to start their names.
SirAndy
Nov 26 2014, 04:40 PM
QUOTE(stevegm @ Nov 26 2014, 01:10 PM)
What do you think of when you see the word - Rennsport
I know it is an odd question. But, I am wanting to clarify whether - Rennsport - says racing to people. I know the word - Renn - means "race" in German. But, is it used strictly for race cars. Or is a general sports car term? Is there another term that is not limited to idea of racing?
In Germany "Rennsport" is more or less exclusively used for actual racing.
You don't normally use it to describe street legal sports cars.
jcd914
Nov 26 2014, 04:56 PM
I always think of Porsche race cars, not just race cars.
Jim
stevegm
Nov 26 2014, 05:21 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 26 2014, 05:40 PM)
QUOTE(stevegm @ Nov 26 2014, 01:10 PM)
What do you think of when you see the word - Rennsport
I know it is an odd question. But, I am wanting to clarify whether - Rennsport - says racing to people. I know the word - Renn - means "race" in German. But, is it used strictly for race cars. Or is a general sports car term? Is there another term that is not limited to idea of racing?
In Germany "Rennsport" is more or less exclusively used for actual racing.
You don't normally use it to describe street legal sports cars.
Thanks. That is what I figured. I am looking for a word that describes both street and race. Rennsport is too racy for me. :-)
SirAndy
Nov 26 2014, 05:30 PM
QUOTE(stevegm @ Nov 26 2014, 03:21 PM)
Thanks. That is what I figured. I am looking for a word that describes both street and race. Rennsport is too racy for me. :-)
What is the actual context you want to use it for?
stevegm
Nov 26 2014, 05:44 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 26 2014, 06:30 PM)
QUOTE(stevegm @ Nov 26 2014, 03:21 PM)
Thanks. That is what I figured. I am looking for a word that describes both street and race. Rennsport is too racy for me. :-)
What is the actual context you want to use it for?
I am just looking for a word that says - Porsche sports car - without actually saying the word Porsche. It is for a possible project. As I know you know, Porsche is ruthless in the protection of their trademarks. I remember when we founded the 986 club in 1995, the editorial column was initially called - Boxster Shorts. Cute name. But, we got a nice letter from Porsche on that one. :-)
Krieger
Nov 26 2014, 05:55 PM
How about $
Rleog
Nov 26 2014, 05:59 PM
"Carrera" too narrow?
messix
Nov 26 2014, 06:02 PM
tail dragger/ ass dragger
stevegm
Nov 26 2014, 06:04 PM
QUOTE(Rleog @ Nov 26 2014, 06:59 PM)
"Carrera" too narrow?
Probably. And I wouldn't be surprised if Porsche trademarked that too. :-)
Johny Blackstain
Nov 26 2014, 06:06 PM
How about "Carrerawerks"? Screams Porsche to me & says
to the lawyers, carajo! Spanish word that they stole back in the 50's from the old "Carrera Panamericana", which they always seemed to kick a** in
I'm thinking even if they threaten a lawsuit they could never win. Yes, they do "own" 911 Carrera but legaly speaking I don't think they could do squat with Carrerawerks.
stevegm
Nov 26 2014, 06:13 PM
QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Nov 26 2014, 07:06 PM)
How about "Carrerawerks"? Screams Porsche to me & says
to the lawyers, carajo! Spanish word that they stole back in the 50's from the old "Carrera Panamericana", which they always seemed to kick a** in
I'm thinking even if they threaten a lawsuit they could never win. Yes, they do "own" 911 Carrera but legaly speaking I don't think they could do squat with Carrerawerks.
Love it. But, when it comes to lawsuits it isn't always about who is right/wrong. With intellectual property, the first person that runs out of money loses. I wish I could give you more info. But, I am just not sure I am going to tackle the project. It isn't for a shop, or a parts business, or anything any of the vendors here produce. Completely different. My primary focus is the 914. But, I admittedly could see doing some stuff with the 356 and 911. But, it is all classic, air-cooled Porsche.
Johny Blackstain
Nov 26 2014, 06:20 PM
QUOTE(stevegm @ Nov 26 2014, 08:13 PM)
Love it. But, when it comes to lawsuits it isn't always about who is right/wrong. With intellectual property, the first person that runs out of money loses. I wish I could give you more info. But, I am just not sure I am ready. It isn't for a shop, or a parts business, or anything any of the vendors here produce. Completely different. My primary focus is the 914. But, I admittedly could see doing some stuff with the 356 and 911. But, it is all classic, air-cooled Porsche.
Sounds like you're building a hot/unique 914 & want a custom name for it, like Ricks "the Alien". Doesn't scream Porsche but we all know what it is.
SirAndy
Nov 26 2014, 07:48 PM
FahrvergnügenMeans: The joy you get out of driving (a vehicle)
stevegm
Nov 26 2014, 08:04 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 26 2014, 08:48 PM)
FahrvergnügenMeans: The joy you get out of driving (a vehicle)
I think it is trademarked by VW.
dw914six
Nov 26 2014, 08:26 PM
Love the sound of that name...but makes me think VW....(guess thats ok since they own Porsche AG).
Classical Element
(Air is one of the 4 Classical Elements.)
You have chosen a difficult assignment. Its hard renaming a brand so well known.
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 26 2014, 05:48 PM)
FahrvergnügenMeans: The joy you get out of driving (a vehicle)
SirAndy
Nov 26 2014, 08:42 PM
QUOTE(stevegm @ Nov 26 2014, 06:04 PM)
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 26 2014, 08:48 PM)
FahrvergnügenMeans: The joy you get out of driving (a vehicle)
I think it is trademarked by VW.
How can they trademark a word that's been around forever?
They did use it in an Ad campaign in the '90s but they certainly didn't invent the word.
RickS
Nov 26 2014, 09:25 PM
Classic Air Werkes
German Air Werkes
Nine Series Air Cooled
Stuttgart Air Werkes
Stuttgart Sport Werkes
Stuttgart Air Cooled
1970 Neun vierzehn
Nov 26 2014, 09:29 PM
'PanzerWagen"
Mr. Olympic Blue 2 You
Nov 26 2014, 09:39 PM
"clubsport" is the name Porsche gave to cars they made to be equally at home on road or track...911 CS, 968 CS, and even a 928 CS...There was a shop named Klub Sport...maybe spelled different to avoid "the letter".
Andrew
Johny Blackstain
Nov 26 2014, 10:11 PM
Targa also comes to mind as a word that says Porsche w/out saying Porsche. Probably hold the rights to that one too, but I believe it's Italian, as Carrera is Spanish, & could possibly be used for whatever purposes.
r_towle
Nov 26 2014, 10:27 PM
Pcar
German air
9-air (cooled)
drbill
Nov 26 2014, 11:22 PM
QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Nov 26 2014, 07:29 PM)
'PanzerWagen"
That was already used as a nickname for the Mercedes SL. Just saw it on TV.
boxsterfan
Nov 26 2014, 11:40 PM
Luft Tropfen (air drop).
I always think of the 911 as a tear drop shape.
Of course, if you are looking for our fair square 914 then it is:
Luft Platz
Almost fitting isn't it?
VegasRacer
Nov 26 2014, 11:41 PM
permagrin
boxsterfan
Nov 26 2014, 11:45 PM
Velocita
boxsterfan
Nov 26 2014, 11:53 PM
Versteckte Rost
tweet
Nov 27 2014, 01:37 AM
P9+
Edchina
Nov 27 2014, 05:31 AM
Why not consider SPORTWAGEN
EdwardBlume
Nov 27 2014, 05:39 AM
Just go through a PCA mag or Excellence for shop names. They do the work for you.
Here are some other ideas:
Ferry German Werks
Stuttgart Productions
German Performance Autowerks
Nuremberg Ring Sled
German P-car Performance
Good luck!
stevegm
Nov 27 2014, 11:50 AM
Thank you to everyone for their suggestions. I am still looking for a word (or multiple words) that kinda says Porsche 914, or classic Porsche, without saying the word "Porsche," and also may provide a little freedom to add other classic Porsches (356, 911, etc.). I am thinking about - Clubsport - right now. But, please give me other suggestions if you have them.
scotty b
Nov 27 2014, 12:00 PM
check with Andy for proper context but :
Mitte sport = middle sports
Zurucke ende motorwerks = back end motor works
Hintere Hälfte motorwerks - back half motor works
SirAndy
Nov 27 2014, 12:02 PM
QUOTE(Edchina @ Nov 27 2014, 03:31 AM)
Why not consider SPORTWAGEN
That would be more generic and a much better fit ...
stevegm
Nov 27 2014, 01:06 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 27 2014, 01:02 PM)
QUOTE(Edchina @ Nov 27 2014, 03:31 AM)
Why not consider SPORTWAGEN
That would be more generic and a much better fit ...
Really? Sportwagen better than Clubsport?
When I see SportWagen I think of station wagon. And VW used SportWagen for their station wagon.
EdwardBlume
Nov 27 2014, 01:08 PM
I don't think 914 is out of bounds. After all, Porsche discontinued it.
How about World 914 Sport?
stevegm
Nov 27 2014, 01:14 PM
QUOTE(RobW @ Nov 27 2014, 02:08 PM)
I don't think 914 is out of bounds. After all, Porsche discontinued it.
How about World 914 Sport?
For the longest time it was well recognized in intellectual property that a series of numbers could not be trademarked. Which is kinda odd, because that was how we ended up with the 911 (it was originally the 901, but, Peugeot objected to any series with the - 0 - in the middle). But, more recently Porsche has claimed that they have trademarks on the various numbers of their cars.
boxsterfan
Nov 27 2014, 01:21 PM
Meepmeep Motors
SirAndy
Nov 27 2014, 01:43 PM
QUOTE(RobW @ Nov 27 2014, 11:08 AM)
I don't think 914 is out of bounds. After all, Porsche discontinued it.
Wrong you are. Porsche claims "914" as a common law trademark in the US ...
mr2by4
Nov 27 2014, 01:53 PM
Could you get away with "Excellence"?
What about using the layout of the motor as opposed to the air-cooled nature. Horizontal power
Opposed Forces
Flat Force
Flat Power
Flat Works (or Flatwerks)
Boxed/Boxer Performance
Hope you find something you like and go for it. It is always great to see someone pursuing their passion.
clapeza
Nov 27 2014, 05:49 PM
From the Porsche tagline, "Porsche. There is no substitute.":
"No substitute" is "kein Ersatz"
At least that's what Google translate came up with.
stevegm
Nov 27 2014, 08:33 PM
QUOTE(clapeza @ Nov 27 2014, 06:49 PM)
From the Porsche tagline, "Porsche. There is no substitute.":
"No substitute" is "kein Ersatz"
At least that's what Google translate came up with.
I like that - Kein Ersatz. Not sure about an all German name, though.
matthepcat
Nov 27 2014, 11:46 PM
Targawerk
Mark Henry
Nov 28 2014, 12:11 AM
Nine Eleven Heaven
Larmo63
Nov 28 2014, 01:05 AM
Schkvare und schlow
EdwardBlume
Nov 28 2014, 07:09 AM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 27 2014, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE(RobW @ Nov 27 2014, 11:08 AM)
I don't think 914 is out of bounds. After all, Porsche discontinued it.
Wrong you are. Porsche claims "914" as a common law trademark in the US ...
What a privilege to be trademarked! Its kind of a compliment!
jacksun
Nov 28 2014, 07:35 AM
Fast track Überholspur
Fast time schnelle Zeit
Fast street car schnelle Straßenbahn
Apex auto Spitze auto
Chicane apex Chicane Spitze
Por sha apex porspitzesha
Elite wheels Elite- Räder
Sha wheels sha Räder
SirAndy
Nov 28 2014, 09:47 AM
QUOTE(jacksun @ Nov 28 2014, 05:35 AM)
Fast street car schnelle Straßenbahn
Please don't use that one, unless you're building fast streetcars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram
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