Cfletch
Dec 19 2014, 07:49 PM
My original 6 oil tank came, but now I am in need of some oil lines to connect it to my engine. Where is the best place to get them? PP has Oil Cooler To Tank and Oil Tank To Oil Cooler lines for sale which runs about ~$150. Is that all I need to get it all connected?
Luke M
Dec 19 2014, 10:59 PM
On a Factory 6 there is 3 rubber hoses and one steel return pipe.
You have two hoses that go from the bottom (feed) of the tank to the oil cooler on the engine. On the return side it's steel from the engine to the left engine shelf then the rubber hose connects it to the return side of the oil tank. Only other lines on the tank are for the breather and over flow.
PMS sells a new 3 rubber line set for $270.00
Cfletch
Dec 20 2014, 12:16 AM
QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 19 2014, 08:59 PM)
On a Factory 6 there is 3 rubber hoses and one steel return pipe.
You have two hoses that go from the bottom (feed) of the tank to the oil cooler on the engine. On the return side it's steel from the engine to the left engine shelf then the rubber hose connects it to the return side of the oil tank. Only other lines on the tank are for the breather and over flow.
PMS sells a new 3 rubber line set for $270.00
So if i purchase that I still need another line? or just need that?
mepstein
Dec 20 2014, 07:21 AM
QUOTE(Cfletch @ Dec 20 2014, 01:16 AM)
QUOTE(Luke M @ Dec 19 2014, 08:59 PM)
On a Factory 6 there is 3 rubber hoses and one steel return pipe.
You have two hoses that go from the bottom (feed) of the tank to the oil cooler on the engine. On the return side it's steel from the engine to the left engine shelf then the rubber hose connects it to the return side of the oil tank. Only other lines on the tank are for the breather and over flow.
PMS sells a new 3 rubber line set for $270.00
So if i purchase that I still need another line? or just need that?
also need the steel return.
Luke M
Dec 20 2014, 07:38 AM
Unless you already have the 914-6 steel return line then yes you will need one.
You have two options here. You can go with a factory 6 line or a PMS modified line.
Only thing with the PMS steel line is you would need a longer rubber return line back to tank. I've seen people run a rubber return line straight from the engine to tank but I don't like that. The steel return line is meant to help with the heat from the headers.
PMS also sells a AN oil line conversion kit.
Mark Henry
Dec 20 2014, 09:10 AM
Also if you have a 911 cooler you need to modify the return pipe on the cooler to 914 style, about $200. The whole stock set-up gets quite expensive.
I debating which way to go, stock or a bit cheaper (hopefully) custom using adapters to AN fittings and hose.
You can see the cooler mod here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=4319
roblav1
Dec 20 2014, 11:47 AM
It's not that difficult to make your own AN lines. The adapters and fittings will get expensive though.
GeorgeRud
Dec 20 2014, 03:44 PM
I'd use the Patrick Motorsport steel line as it gives you options on adding a future cooler if needed by easily swapping out some small AN hoses. If it's going to be a track car, AN-16 lines would be better, but $$$ and harder to run to the front. AN-12 lines can be made up at home.
ClayPerrine
Dec 21 2014, 12:53 PM
I don't have the part number, but there is a 911 flexible line that replaces the hard line (18). It goes all the way from the engine to the oil tank with no other connections. I have one and used it for years.
Cfletch
Dec 21 2014, 03:04 PM
yeah its for just street use and I wanted to just get everything at once. still not 100%on what I will need.
Mark Henry
Dec 21 2014, 03:31 PM
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Dec 21 2014, 01:53 PM)
I don't have the part number, but there is a 911 flexible line that replaces the hard line (18). It goes all the way from the engine to the oil tank with no other connections. I have one and used it for years.
Is it this one?
901-107-331-12-M20
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/SuperC..._pg8.htm#item31Is this the smaller size line?
I don't know if it would be a big deal on a 3.0- /6.
The line on the 2.0-2.7 is just under .100 smaller than the 3.0-up, but the outlet fitting on the case is the same ID both sizes, so I really don't see the smaller hose being a restriction.
Mark Henry
Dec 22 2014, 06:40 AM
Went looking and answered my own question, the fitting into the OEM and my DWD tank is the smaller cohline. Makes sense, the 914/6 is an earlier car than the 3.0 up cars.
If this is the correct one Clay is talking about, it would be a cheap way to get the /6 up and running, $110 for the cohline or $68 for the "German".
So this hose $68, about $170 for the 2 return lines and the cost of the cooler mod.
Cooler mod from a914guy (Rich Johnson) is listed at $175 plus shipping, so I'll call it $200.
$68+170+200= $438
That's the cheapest "new cohline" solution I've seen so far.
johnhora
Dec 22 2014, 10:27 AM
here is another source using cohline hose and stock type fittings
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-6-engi...e-/310451513559
JmuRiz
Dec 22 2014, 11:08 AM
I have the stock part 18 hard line, I'm not going that route now that I bought an external oil cooler.
Let me know if you still want to buy a stock hardline.
Mark Henry
Dec 22 2014, 11:21 AM
QUOTE(johnhora @ Dec 22 2014, 11:27 AM)
here is another source using cohline hose and stock type fittings
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-6-engi...e-/310451513559Yes, but you would still need the 914/6 hardline around $400
Also the OE hardline may have issues with some aftermarket engine mounts.
$270+400+200= $870
NOTE both prices I've added up do not include any of the kit needed for a remote cooler, this is just a straight in/out set-up.
Cfletch
Dec 30 2014, 01:23 PM
Mark Henry
Dec 30 2014, 01:38 PM
Same as post #15, you still need the 914/6 hardline.
johnhora
Dec 30 2014, 04:35 PM
JmuRiz
Dec 30 2014, 07:48 PM
Yep, that's the one, PM me for one at a better price
Mark Henry
Dec 30 2014, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(johnhora @ Dec 30 2014, 05:35 PM)
I'd use a garden hose before I gave that weasel a dime.
JmuRiz
Dec 30 2014, 09:05 PM
Ahhh, didn't even notice that.
Cfletch
Dec 30 2014, 11:24 PM
who is it?
EdwardBlume
Dec 31 2014, 05:24 AM
QUOTE(Cfletch @ Dec 30 2014, 09:24 PM)
who is it?
Automobile Atlanta
Do a search and you'll find a lengthy history of debate.
Brian_Boss
Jan 1 2015, 08:03 PM
QUOTE(Cfletch @ Dec 30 2014, 01:23 PM)
That's our kit which requires the stock six hard line. If you don't want to go that route, we can send you a set with a long soft line that replaces the hard line and short soft line for the feed line. PM me or Jonathan for price.
With this setup, you need to carefully route and mount the soft line away from the HE or header.
Mark Henry
Jan 2 2015, 07:59 AM
QUOTE(Brian_Boss @ Jan 1 2015, 09:03 PM)
QUOTE(Cfletch @ Dec 30 2014, 01:23 PM)
That's our kit which requires the stock six hard line. If you don't want to go that route, we can send you a set with a long soft line that replaces the hard line and short soft line for the feed line. PM me or Jonathan for price.
With this setup, you need to carefully route and mount the soft line away from the HE or header.
Brian is it this hose you are talking about for substituting the hose and hardline?
901-107-331-12-M20
johnhora
Jan 2 2015, 02:50 PM
Mark...that is the one....the early SWB 911 68< used this "soft" line...it went up and over the tranny from the engine to the tank...here is a pic of where someone made one....it's #17 in the diagram.....that was used until the #18 version
I've dismantled a few early 911 that had them and various shop made versions and some out of AN fittings and SS hose....never tried to use one on a 914-6...not sure about the length of it to the 914-6 tank....should work just like on 911...keep away from HEs....
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