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cary
Cherish every minute .................
Seems like they're gone in a blink of an eye and all you do is think about how you'd do things differently .............
raynekat
Changing direction on the color for the car.
Looks like the light ivory derivatives are out.....and a modern Porsche color may be in.

Thinking about a non-metallic M9A.
Which translates into chalk.

What are your thoughts?
Looks incredible on the newer cars.
Wonder about our 914 as well....

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mb911
Love it.. Bummer on the primer.. Never seen that happen before..
mepstein
QUOTE(raynekat @ Feb 3 2018, 06:03 PM) *

Just picked up my new back pad straight from Germany and Porsche.
Our local dealer here in Portland, Sunset, gets very good prices on most of the factory parts.

Really looks nice and the vinyl is perfect in appearance.
I tried to repair my existing back pad, but in the end, it wasn't in that great of shape and my "sorry" attempt to resurrect it just wasn't cutting the mustard.

Two of the local hotshoes checking out the new cockpit digs.
I think they both give it thumbs up. wink.gif

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That pic is worth the price of the build. smilie_pokal.gif

I wonder if the primer was old or someone mixed two brands together. It's hard to fuch up epoxy.
raynekat
Not sure what was wrong with the primer.
The body & paint shop thinks the metal was not very clean underneath it.
Hard to believe as supposedly the primer guy spent all this time hand scuffing the 1st primer that had been laid down months prior just to get a good tie-in. Could he have missed wiping it all down before shooting the primer?
Guess we'll never know.
All I do know is that next time, I'll let the body & paint shop take care of cleaning off the flash rust and they can epoxy prime the chassis themselves.

The 914 will belong to little sister when she gets older (if she's good).
Older brother will get the '73 911.
Lucky kids.
They better be good when they grow up or all bets are off. Ha wink.gif tongue.gif
They will both get some experience behind the wheel of an early 70's Porsche. Not too many other kids will get to say the same.
raynekat
Updates:

Engine is complete now.
Final power figures are 228 horses at less than redline....so likely more is still available.
This is with the Dansk single outlet sport exhaust.
To me these are exceptional power numbers for an 8.5:1 stock Carrera RS engine.
Factory rated them at 210hp.
When using the factory stock Leistritz single outlet, peak hp was 221 and trailed the Dansk across the entire rpm band by at least 5hp.

I'll be using the sport exhaust I'm sure!

You'll see some good views of the amber fan shroud that Damon Series 900 fabs.
Also the restored fan and fan housing that Mark Motshagen so beautifully does.

Factory 914-6 engine tin with mods for the MFI pump belt.

Ben's beautiful 1-5/8" HE's.
1-5/8" size was the right call with this 2.7 MFI engine vs. factory 1-1/2" primaries.

The "special" Sachs sport clutch pack that according to the engine builder is super light but very robust.

Last to install are the heater hoses and the hot air hose that feeds heated air from the HE to the MFI pump thermostat.

I'm very happy with this part of the build.
But then....Rothsport never fails to get it right....down to the very small details.

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raynekat
Body/paint shop updates:

Superior Auto Body out of Gresham, OR has been hard at it for about 2 weeks now.
Starting to make some good progress.

To be honest, I did not start with the best of chassis's but decided to just "go for it" in the end.
Let's just say I've saved another 914 from the crusher.
Very few straight panels at all on this car.
So you'll see a "fair" degree of body filler....hahaha. For real.
This is all skim coat so there will be no thick sections of body filler anywhere.
Even the top of the targa panel had been walked on it appeared.

In general, the main part of the chassis was in pretty good shape.
The driver door needed to be opened up with their monster porta power to get the door gaps correct.
Like I said the top of the targa had to be addressed.
Big suction cups pulled most of the dents out with body filler making it perfect.

The biggest issue were the "so called" greatest GT hoods ever made known to man.
Yeah right.
I'll keep the vendor anonymous at this point, but the hoods were grossly over lauded.
Fit was extremely poor, but that's typical of fiberglass.
What was really disappointing was the construction techniques were just simply abysmal.
The gel coat was not nicely applied to the mold as were the subsequent layers of fiberglass.
The actual shape of the hoods especially the rear one were very substandard.
The shop has done a lot of work to get them looking drastically better using Corvette panel materials.
There were voids or pores everywhere that needed attending to such that the later paint job wouldn't be adversely affected.
Next time I'll try Getty....that's all I'll say at this point.
Very, very expensive (~$2800) GT "replica" hoods that just weren't worth the money.
This shop will get them usable but at what cost?
Live and learn.
One of the many expensive lessons learned on this build.

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raynekat
Next week, the body/paint shop will start shooting primer everywhere.
Then comes the Raptor undercoating tinted the final paint color and seam sealing the entire chassis.

Got a look at the latest paint sample today....B9A.
Best to date.
It's a white with a bit of blue gray to it.
Called Carrara (correct spelling) White....found on the new Porsche models.

Things are definitely moving ahead.

Hopefully will have the car back from the body/paint shop in Mid March.
Then I'll do my thrashing on it.
Already am naming/describing that time as "helter skelter."
Rothsport could begin integration of the power train and completion of the car in May.
Still a chance we'll get this car to the WCR here in Oregon this summer.
raynekat
Sorry for the low quality pics....they came from the paint shop.

It's masking time.
Guess the main takeaway is that the body work is moving on down the road, and it's time to get the primer on the car so we can do one last bit of block sanding.

Expecting some seam sealer to fly next week along with the body color Raptor undercoating.

Looking forward to the B9A getting applied to a very straight body in the very near future. wink.gif

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mb911
Looks great and my car will be similar with s skim coat..

Love the pictures of the engine.. It shows off the heat exchangers. Might need to use the pictures for my website..
mepstein
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Looks great and my car will be similar with s skim coat..

Love the pictures of the engine.. It shows off the heat exchangers. Might need to use the pictures for my website..

I'll add it in if we have permission.

You might have to mount a mirror on the engine firewall so you can see the fan. biggrin.gif
raynekat
Yes, a mirrored engine firewall might just be the ticket!

I'll try to get some better pics of Ben's 914-6 HE's here in the coming months.
jmz
Good work! Love the seats. ...looks like the passengers do too.
cary
Got a look at the latest paint sample today....B9A

Cool ................. Good Choice. But then I'm a little biased. LOL.
Fatboy007
QUOTE(raynekat @ Feb 11 2015, 08:22 PM) *

Bought a 71 1.7 liter today.

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Car is in relatively good shape as far as I can tell.
Likely some hell hole and rear portion of the back trunk rust repair needed, but appears to be minor.
Time will tell.

My current plans are to get the fuel system and FI sorted out (me).
It cranks over, but doesn't start.
Then go through the brakes from stem to stern (PMB).
After that....drive it.

The original color is light ivory, but has had a repaint in pearl white years ago.
Will get the body work done and do a proper respray.
I've already got a set of 15x6.5" Minilites to install.
The suspension will get a good going over....likely Elephant Racing setup.
Re-do the interior with a more supportive driver's seat.
Refreshed gauges (Hollywood Speedo) in 356 fashion.
Double wrapped RS steering wheel.
GT lightwt door panels.

Eventually, a bigger four will power the car.
Would like to keep it all 4 cylinder for the time being.
I've already got a 911 sitting in the garage that tics all the 911 boxes off.

I'll keep a log of the progress here with pics.
This is a big, big project.....no doubt.

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itchybro
QUOTE(raynekat @ Feb 11 2015, 09:22 PM) *


Re-do the interior with a more supportive driver's seat.
Refreshed gauges (Hollywood Speedo) in 356 fashion.



Thanks for the tip on Hollywood speedometer!

What sort of seats are you contemplating?
raynekat
QUOTE(itchybro @ Mar 9 2018, 03:52 PM) *

QUOTE(raynekat @ Feb 11 2015, 09:22 PM) *


Re-do the interior with a more supportive driver's seat.
Refreshed gauges (Hollywood Speedo) in 356 fashion.



Thanks for the tip on Hollywood speedometer!

What sort of seats are you contemplating?


Seats already completed.
GTS Classics and Stefan put together these.
Believe they are the Watkins Glen model made especially for 914's to fit in the back pad.

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raynekat
Bodywork is pretty much completed.
Chassis and various parts are nice and straight and flat.
Primer put down.
Just need the guide coat and one final sanding, and we'll be ready for seam sealer, undercoat and spraying some color.

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raynekat
Pretty amazing how flat they got those horrid fiberglass hoods and how well they fit on the car now....install pics later.
Many hours went into filling and sanding, plus some heat to get the fiberglass to lay correctly.
The undersides will still be raw fiberglass with only the tops and edges painted body color.


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cary
Wow ....................
I can see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel
Cairo94507
Exciting progress. beerchug.gif
raynekat
The seam sealer is complete now.
Sorry the pics are few and far in between....and low quality.

The shop used a catalized 2 part SEM seam sealer.
Dried very hard so should be tough as nails hopefully.

Will be getting the Raptor undercoating shot on next this week.
Then comes the color.
So we're finally getting somewhere....

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bbrock
That looks really nice. I wonder what kind of gun they shot that with confused24.gif
raynekat
To my recollection, it was something like this.
I'll see if I can get a better pic of what they actually used later this week.
Seem to remember a long snout on it.

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Matty900
Looking good Doug! Can't wait to see it with color on it. Exciting stuff piratenanner.gif
cary
biggrin.gif , looks good.
raynekat
Underside of the car is complete now.
Took awhile to get the right color match of the Carrara Weisse on the Raptor tintable Urethane bedliner/undercoationg, but eventually we got there.

The last pic shows the texture that we achieved.
Not quite concours Wurth pebbly, but will be work fine with this hotrod.
Stuff should be bulletproof.

I was considering going with a different color on the bottom like beige or some light gray, but in the end the same color of what will be applied to the rest of the car "won the day."

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raynekat
Trunks and cabin have been painted Carrara Weisse as well.
It's a very nice and bright white....much more white than light ivory for sure.

Some of the method used to get this car down to the bare metal reared it's ugly head.
Impossible (as many have said before) to get all the media out of the car that was used to blast it down to bare metal.
When the spray painters start spraying, the leftover media comes out of every nook and cranny imaginable.
There is left over media imbedded in some of the paint in the interior.
The painters wanted to attack it with their DA's and repaint the cabin, but since it's all underneath sound/heat shield padding and carpeting, I said no to all that extra work.
In a way, it will be a remembrance of all the work that went into this chassis to get it ready for paint.
Dipping would have been worse I've heard, as the chemicals leach out of all the crevices and joints ruining your paint job for years to come.

The exterior still has it's final guide coat that they were sanding off as we speak.

Plan is to get the car off the rotisserie and back onto my cart, so that the nose and tail can some quick bodywork completed.
Then the remainder of the car will be painted.
The roof has been repaired and retextured and is ready for paint.
The side sill covers, front and rear valance are also ready to receive their "hotrod" black as well. The black is a very nice satin that has just the right amount of sheen.

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raynekat
One of the biggest challenges of the body work portion of the project was getting the high dollar GT replica front and rear hoods to fit the car and have reasonably the correct shape/curvature to match the car.

The shop worked their magic and did an excellent job.
The top portions of the hoods will be painted Carrara Weisse, the same color as the rest of the car.
The underneath will be raw fiberglass with the exception of a very narrow band around the perimeter.
You can see the primer already in place on the backside.

After the perimeter gets the body color applied, the entire backside will get a coat of clear satin to help protect it.

These GT hoods are very lightweight and thin.
How practical these are for everyday service remains to be seen.
If they just don't work out, I'll go with the stock steel lids and save these for a "future" project.
I thought the weight savings and "cool factor" were worth it to at least give it a go.

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Cairo94507
Terrific looking work. What a great day when they actually shoot color on your car. beerchug.gif
raynekat
Doors are painted now. Today the main chassis is in the paint booth for 4 coats of Carrara Weisse followed by clear. Should have some pics tomorrow. Didn't think this car would ever get to this stage. It's been nearly 3 years since I picked up this POS example. Thanks to Cary, Superior Auto Body and many others this car will be transformed into something special in the end. Stay tuned.
cary
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Can't wait to roll it into your garage ..........
Dion
Car is looking great Doug. Beautiful work.
porschetub
Moving a long now Doug,looking good,the fiberglass well agree.gif in what you said so many parts don't fit well,2 piece parts are usually more of an issue,if the outer exterior skin isn't mold cured for long enough before the inner section is bonded to it the outer skin will pull out of shape resulting in high/low spots and twisting.
Sign of the times but these parts are generally made by unskilled labour,being a qualified laminator is something I did for 15yrs.... there's just more to it than slapping on some gelcoat in a mold and glassing it.
Wow that engine drooley.gif drooley.gif must have been a great moment to get those final results,well done

raynekat
The long awaited day finally arrived today with the chassis getting all it's coats of Carrara Weisse along with some clear.
Still a bit tacky but looks spectacular.

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raynekat
The panels are all laser straight as the bodywork that was done by Superior Auto Body was simply exceptional.
I continually had to rein them in such that it wasn't too perfect.
Paintwork will be concours quality, but that's not what i have in mind for this car.
Just enjoying and driving.

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raynekat
Love looking at the reflection of the lights in the paint.
The current finish really is good enough for my needs....very little orange peal and waviness, but the shop owner wants it something he can be proud of, so next up is the "cut and buff" or wet sanding and polishing.
Will be mirror-like when they are done.

And they're giving me a projected completion of next week some time

The front and rear valances and side skirts have all been painted their "hotrod" black and the sheen looks perfect.
Not too shiny or flat....just right in my eye.

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Still have the 2 hoods, engine lid and headlight doors to paint which will take place tomorrow.
The doors have already been completed.

Wasn't so sure about going with white at the beginning of this project.
The original color of the car was light ivory.
This Carrara Weisse is a very nice white and has a lot more "pop" than light ivory.
I had wanted tangerine, but too many recent cars on 914 World sport that color.
My other favorite is a 911 color, Albert blue, but somehow it just didn't look right on a 914 I thought.
So here we ended up with the 2018 Porsche color, Carrara Weisse.
mepstein
We have an Albert blue car in the shop. Looks great but doesn’t “pop” like some colors.
bbrock
That is a thing of true beauty! Congrats on hitting this milestone. smilie_pokal.gif
cary
Can't wait to see it .................
raynekat
Excuse the poor cell phone pics....
All the valances and side skirts getting the satin black treatment.
They are all looking good.

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raynekat
Engine lid received it's coat of black that goes underneath the engine grill.
Still tacky (drying) so the real shiny part will flatten out a bit more to approach a nice satin black.

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raynekat
Door have been wet sanded and buffed, so are ready to mount back on the car at this point.
Mirror like finish. wink.gif

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raynekat
Main chassis had all been wet sanded and was just getting buffed.
Definitely the light at the end of the tunnel is in reach....

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raynekat
Another view of the completely (exterior) wet sanded chassis.
That really makes the paint look flat.

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What's left to do?

1) Finish painting, wet sanding and buffing the hoods.

2) Finish painting the headlight door sheet metal.

3) Install the doors and hoods on the car.

4) Paint black the small areas under the two side engine grills that are on the chassis.


Note: Instead of worrying about the black tape on the bottom of the rear window, I just had the shop paint the top edge of the inside firewall the same trim black we've been using.
bbrock
Whoa! I couldn't figure out why it looked so green until I saw the pic with the truck next to it. Now that's a shine! smilie_pokal.gif
cary
Dude .......
Difinently an honor to be involved in this project. Can't wait to roll it in your garage.
Cairo94507
That chassis looks outstanding. smilie_pokal.gif beerchug.gif
raynekat
Paint shop status:

Shop owner went to the coast for the weekend, while the shop finishes up some last things with the project.

1) Painting the tops of both hoods, headlight doors and eyebrows. Then wetland and buff.

2) Install the doors and hoods; align.


I did bring home with me both side skirts and front/rear valances.
Also the roof and engine lid.

Went to work putting back together the engine lid.

1) Powder coated the spring rods.
2) Installed new rubber bumpers (914 Rubber) under the rods.
3) Powder coated the engine grill and added a year correct rally badge.
4) New reproduction engine bay gold foil stickers from Aase Sales.
5) Newly plated latch hardware.
6) New edge protectors, welting and lid protector/buffer from 914 Rubber.

Haven't installed the speed nuts for the grill yet, as I'm fine tuning the screen welting.

Pretty happy with how this all came together.
If the rest of the car looks this clean and new, I'll be a happy camper in a couple of months time.

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raynekat
Paint shop is finishing up this week.
Everything painted now.
Bolting on the doors and hoods today.

Test fitting the stainless steel bumpers.
Little bit of tweaking on the rear bumper is needed....you can see from the side profile where the bumper meets the rear.
Front looks good.

Guess you can tell by the holes in the panel between the taillights what is going on this car....

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