Eric_Shea
Feb 20 2005, 10:50 AM
Friendly Admins...
IE hasn't been able to pull up the site since Friday.
Deleted all files, cookies and did a general clean up. Any ideas?
Or will it start back up Monday?
Help please...
skline
Feb 20 2005, 10:52 AM
You shouldnt be using IE anyway, it sucks. Go Firefox!!!
Rusty
Feb 20 2005, 10:54 AM
I'm using IE6, and can get in just fine. Could there be an issue with your ISP?
-Lawrence
Qarl
Feb 20 2005, 10:57 AM
works fine for me
Eric_Shea
Feb 20 2005, 11:20 AM
Everything else loads.
Firefox won't load it either... The "only" site I can't get is 914club.
Eric_Shea
Feb 20 2005, 11:28 AM
The Browser within CompuServe... Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
seanery
Feb 20 2005, 11:43 AM
you've got taildraggeritis...it's a nasty virus that went out and disabled 914World.com from most well-known browsers.
you need to fix that problem
by the way, your numbers will ship tomorrow.
Eric_Shea
Feb 20 2005, 11:52 AM
Paul... correct.
Sean... what numbers?
Really??? Numbers???
mercdev
Feb 20 2005, 12:08 PM
in winxp you can do
CODE |
c:\ipconfig /flushdns |
which could resolve the problem if it's locally caching your dns entries. Otherwise you could http://66.250.97.205
If that works it's definately your ISPs DNS.
Eric_Shea
Feb 20 2005, 12:55 PM
QUOTE |
http://66.250.97.205 |
No worky...
Eric_Shea
Feb 20 2005, 12:58 PM
QUOTE |
c:\ipconfig /flushdns |
No worky...
KaptKaos
Feb 20 2005, 01:13 PM
Start
Run
type in cmd - press enter
in DOS box type:
tracert www.914world.com
Post the results.
redshift
Feb 20 2005, 01:41 PM
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Feb 20 2005, 01:28 PM) |
The Browser within CompuServe... Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
Come back to AOL, Steve Case is a janitor now. 10,000 FREE HOURS!
We love you!
Compuserve Staff!
Eric_Shea
Feb 20 2005, 02:23 PM
Demarc's got me blocked...
So am I a Dynamic Threat?
mercdev
Feb 20 2005, 03:27 PM
Looks like a route table is messed up, which usually means you sending an email or calling someone to tell them that their stuff is broke.
SirAndy
Feb 20 2005, 04:03 PM
here's what i got ...
(looks like the "black list" is working!
)
redshift
Feb 20 2005, 04:08 PM
I like the color of Andy's trace much better.
M
KaptKaos
Feb 20 2005, 04:36 PM
Looks like cogent is dropping your packets for some reason. You get to their network, and you hit an unamed device just before you should be getting thr 914club page and it just drops.
The address is resolving to the same IP, so its likely not a DNS issue.
Not sure how compuserve works, but if its a proxy client, then you might be getting to the site via a different route, which would not help you with this problem.
Bottom line is that you can not reach the site directly. Call your ISP and ask them to test it. See what they find.
- Joe
SirAndy
Feb 20 2005, 05:28 PM
i did a portscan on the router in question (64.237.0.250) ...
tried to telnet into it, but of course it's password protected ...
Andy
redshift
Feb 20 2005, 06:46 PM
Ok, I am inside Eric's computer... I found it... it's a flat 0... looks like this: o... here...
-blows hard-
0
There, that should do it.
M
Eric_Shea
Feb 20 2005, 08:49 PM
Andy... Others...
Any idea what I should try next? Should I contact Qwest and see what they say? It seems like I get to Demarc and then it times out the request.
Is this on my end? It's a real PITA...
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks,
E.
KaptKaos
Feb 20 2005, 09:26 PM
Call your ISP and have them troubleshoot it. There are way to many variables at this point, you need to start eliminating some of them and your ISP is the best place to start.
Eric_Shea
Feb 21 2005, 09:16 AM
Thanks Joe...
Miles, get out of my computer damnit. You're hogg'n all my porn files.
vortrex
Feb 21 2005, 09:18 AM
what is the source IP you are coming from (the public one)?
Eric_Shea
Feb 21 2005, 09:56 AM
I haven't got a clue. Everything I know about this type of stuff would be wrapped up in that screendump. I thought it was 192.168.0.1
I just got off the phone with Qwest and they stated that it is being blocked by Novani and that I should contact the 914club and/or Novani to find out why.
vortrex
Feb 21 2005, 10:21 AM
http://www.whatismyip.com/ will tell you your public IP.
Eric_Shea
Feb 21 2005, 11:01 AM
71.35.236.192
seanery
Feb 21 2005, 11:10 AM
this is the one the world sees eric: 205.188.116.67
Eric_Shea
Feb 21 2005, 11:12 AM
That's the one the world see's when I'm going through my CompuServe browser
The one I posted is the one I am having problems with... going direct from Foxfire or IE.
vortrex
Feb 21 2005, 11:16 AM
how is the 914world.com server setup? does it just have a default route? if not, it appears as though it might not have a route back to 71.35.236.192.
redshift
Feb 21 2005, 11:26 AM
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Feb 21 2005, 11:16 AM) |
Thanks Joe...
Miles, get out of my computer damnit. You're hogg'n all my porn files. |
What is it with you and women with huge breasts... and.. hairy legs?
M
Eric_Shea
Feb 21 2005, 11:29 AM
Uhhhhhh... those aren't women
When I said I was having tranny problems I meant my love life
KaptKaos
Feb 21 2005, 11:35 AM
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Feb 21 2005, 07:56 AM) |
I haven't got a clue. Everything I know about this type of stuff would be wrapped up in that screendump. I thought it was 192.168.0.1
I just got off the phone with Qwest and they stated that it is being blocked by Novani and that I should contact the 914club and/or Novani to find out why. |
I assume that Novani is the hosting company for the 914club site. Who works with the hosting company for the site?
If Eric is having issues, I am sure that there are others.
Rockaria
Feb 21 2005, 12:28 PM
Just for giggles try this in IE:
Go to "TOOLS/Internet Options"
Click the "SECURITY" tab in the window that comes up.
There are four icons that are in the window now. For giggles click the first icon and then click the button "Default Level"
Do that to the other three icons, then try accessing the blocked sites again.
At my university I am always having problems with people thinking I am blocking them from our database system when in fact it is one of these settings in IE that are doing it.
Give it a try, Can't hurt anything.
Eric_Shea
Feb 21 2005, 01:35 PM
Thanks Chris,
I'm having the problem with IE and Foxfire. I tried it but...
Anybody? Pretty Please??
vortrex
Feb 21 2005, 01:52 PM
it does not look like a brower issue, more of a routing issue. your traceroute is not working. you probably cannot ping it either. hard to troubleshoot with no access to any devices. I think andy is your only hope. a "route print" on the 914club server would be a first step.
Eric_Shea
Feb 21 2005, 02:32 PM
I thought my traceroute was working. I thought it traced it all the way up to the Novani Demarc site...
www.novani.demarc.com is a network protection site. No??
That seems to be where my route gets timed out...
I'm lost here. Andy, is there anything you can do?
Thanks,
E.
vortrex
Feb 21 2005, 02:53 PM
you made it to the hop before the server, which is the router at the colo. your packets very well might be making it to the server, but they might not know how to get back to you. again, really hard to tell with no access to any of the devices to test from. a traceroute from the server back to your IP would be interesting to see.
balljoint
Feb 21 2005, 03:17 PM
Grab the thermos of RC Cola! Let's GO commandos, it's HOWLING TIME.
Good Luck Eric. Don't try and figure out what these guys are talking about, just go buy yourself a new computer.
vortrex
Feb 21 2005, 03:30 PM
QUOTE (Paul Heery @ Feb 21 2005, 01:02 PM) |
There are some other issues going on here. You're right though, I'd love to see a traceroute FROM the server to Eric. Check out my tracert below. I have good times getting to the Cogent network. But, once I get on their network it goes to hell.
Target Name: www.914world.com IP: 66.250.97.205 Date/Time: 2/21/2005 3:53:21 PM
1 0 ms [192.168.0.1] 2 * [] 3 0 ms dstswr2-vlan2.rh.nrwlct.cv.net [67.83.230.162] 4 13 ms r2-ge12-1.mhe.whplny.cv.net [67.83.230.133] 5 0 ms r2-srp1-0.cr.whplny.cv.net [65.19.120.18] 6 0 ms r1-srp5-0.wan.whplny.cv.net [65.19.120.1] 7 14 ms r1-srp0-0.in.nycmny83.cv.net [65.19.96.83] 8 27 ms r1-pos1-0.in.asbnva16.cv.net [167.206.8.150] 9 * [] 10 14 ms p11-0.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.201] 11 97 ms p10-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.209] 12 82 ms g50.ba01.b003070-1.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.5.182] 13 96 ms Novani.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.28.102] 14 96 ms [64.237.0.250] 15 96 ms ftp.914world.com [66.250.97.205] |
those RTT's are not that bad really and latency would not be the cause of being unable to access the site.
KaptKaos
Feb 21 2005, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (vortrex @ Feb 21 2005, 12:53 PM) |
you made it to the hop before the server, which is the router at the colo. your packets very well might be making it to the server, but they might not know how to get back to you. again, really hard to tell with no access to any of the devices to test from. a traceroute from the server back to your IP would be interesting to see. |
This is in Andy's ballpark now. I assume he can remote into the server and run a tracert or a ping test to check basic connectivity from end-to-end. IP routing can be about as basic as it gets, but sometimes can be a nightmare sorting it out.
Andy??
Eric_Shea
Feb 21 2005, 05:35 PM
Andy??
SirAndy
Feb 21 2005, 07:08 PM
Andy ???
SirAndy
Feb 21 2005, 07:09 PM
Novani.demarc.cogentco is not our provider. there's still another box inbetween.
i did find the problem, however. look at this traceroute ...
i forwarded this to our ISP guys. we'll see if they can do something about it ...
redshift
Feb 21 2005, 07:38 PM
I think it' Eric's stupid packets, they stumble around, and never make it home.
I happen to have freshly taught European made homing packets, fresh in from Europe.
These are the expensive ones, don't insult me.
M
KaptKaos
Feb 21 2005, 09:02 PM
QUOTE (SirAndy @ Feb 21 2005, 05:09 PM) |
Novani.demarc.cogentco is not our provider. there's still another box inbetween.
i did find the problem, however. look at this traceroute ...
i forwarded this to our ISP guys. we'll see if they can do something about it ... |
Loop-de-loop!! Yup, its in the middle. Someone prolly decided to change something on the fly. Hate it when that happens.
Good luck with that.
Eric_Shea
Feb 22 2005, 09:22 AM
So Miles... are you saying "If you have to ask... they're too expensive" ?
I'm glad the rest of you guys know what the fuch you're doing cause I sure don't. I can bang on brakes and hubs but getting replies from servers
So... correct me if I'm wrong here but; I'm getting through, it's just not making it back to me? On the return trip it runs into this loop Andy posted?? Am I the only lucky one affected by this SNAFU?
Thanks for looking into it and please keep me posted on the results.
E.
SirAndy
Feb 22 2005, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Feb 22 2005, 07:22 AM) |
So... correct me if I'm wrong here but; I'm getting through, it's just not making it back to me? On the return trip it runs into this loop Andy posted?? Am I the only lucky one affected by this SNAFU? |
yepp, you hit the hammer on the hub ...
Andy
Eric_Shea
Feb 22 2005, 04:47 PM
Andy,
Any luck? I spoke with a few admin-types and they stated that you're the only one who can get this resolved.
Sorry to bug you but it's goin on six days now.
Thanks in advance,
Eric
vortrex
Feb 22 2005, 05:09 PM
who did you talk to? someone at novani.com needs to have a look at the routers.
1-866-4-NOVANI
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