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Jonnydaub
Just as the title says, I'm installing a new master cylinder on my 73 and the new one has a different plug in for the electrical line then the old one. Tell me what you guys did. Click to view attachment
Jonnydaub
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Spoke
The old one looks damaged. The new one is correct. What does the wire connector look like? The wire should have a spade connector on it.
914Sixer
70-73 has 2 spade connector. 74-76 has single pole. I think you can leave the brown wire off and tape it back and it will still work. If not I have some NOS 2 pole switches.
Jonnydaub
Ill check it out tomorrow and let you guys know. Thanks
Dave_Darling
The switch did not occur at any specific point that I know of, but we do see both two-connector and one-connector switches.

The two-connector switches short the two connectors together when a pressure imbalance is detected. One connector goes to the brake warning light, and the other goes to brown through the standard brown wire.

The one-connector switch grounds through its threads into the body of the master cylinder. If you have a one-connector switch, just tape the ground wire up out of the way.

--DD
euro911
My '75 has spade lug connectors, but there were so many things that weren't 'original' on the car when I acquired it. I'd just crimp on a new spade lug and be done with it confused24.gif - All new M/Cs I've seen come with sensors that have the spade connection anyway.


Also, make sure to completely seat the plastic feed nipples (or whatever they're called) into the rubber grommets on the M/C. Some folks like to disconnect the feed lines from the reservoir and pull them downward a little so the nipples are easier to install (before bolting the M/C to the bulkhead), then pull the lines back up and reconnect to the reservoir aktion035.gif
Jonnydaub
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This is what my plug in looks like
euro911
I think you're due for a new one ... and from the looks of the surrounding areas, a whole new M/C. It looks like maybe you're doing that now?
Jonnydaub
Yup got a brand new m/c shown in a pic above. Anyone have any extra connectors?
era vulgaris
It looks like your old switch broke in half when you removed it. Just pull the spade connectors off the broken half of your old switch that's dangling there. Tape the brown wire back, and plug the other wire into the new switch, as Dave mentioned above.
Jonnydaub
QUOTE(era vulgaris @ Aug 30 2015, 06:39 PM) *

It looks like your old switch broke in half when you removed it. Just pull the spade connectors off the broken half of your old switch that's dangling there. Tape the brown wire back, and plug the other wire into the new switch, as Dave mentioned above.


Ok my question is will it act differntly if i tape that wire back? Like will it throw the brake light?
era vulgaris
QUOTE(Jonnydaub @ Aug 30 2015, 07:44 PM) *


Ok my question is will it act differntly if i tape that wire back? Like will it throw the brake light?


Here is your answer from earlier in the thread:

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Aug 29 2015, 11:29 PM) *


The two-connector switches short the two connectors together when a pressure imbalance is detected. One connector goes to the brake warning light, and the other goes to ground through the standard brown wire.

The one-connector switch grounds through its threads into the body of the master cylinder. If you have a one-connector switch, just tape the ground wire up out of the way.

--DD


The single connector switch grounds through the switch body. The two connector switch grounds through the brown wire. If you have the single connector switch, you don't need the brown wire, so leave it unconnected.

Also, not sure if it was mentioned, but that switch is for the brake warning light on your dash. The actual brake lights are activated by an electrical switch on the pedal cluster.
euro911
QUOTE(Jonnydaub @ Aug 30 2015, 04:28 PM) *
Yup got a brand new m/c shown in a pic above. Anyone have any extra connectors?
You should be able to get them at your local automotive supply or hardware store. Buy a package of them (they're cheap) and a good crimp tool if you don't already have one.
Jonnydaub
Know what the part number is by chance?
era vulgaris
QUOTE(Jonnydaub @ Aug 30 2015, 09:02 PM) *

Know what the part number is by chance?


They're called spade connectors. You can get them at FLAPS, Lowe's, Home Depot, Radioshack, etc. Pretty much anywhere that sells anything to do with electrical circuits sells them. Take the old one with you to compare size as they come in different sizes.
Spoke
Did the spade connector come off of the broken part of the switch? It looks from your pic that the spade connector is still connected to the broken part and still on the wire. You may not need to buy a spade connector. Best to use the existing spade if still attached and not hack into the wiring if possible.
euro911
It looks like one broke wire off, and with all the rust I see in the boot, the wire to spade connections probably have a lot of corrosion anyway.

Lowe's has them Click here for connectors

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Harbor Freight is another place to get them ... and they sell a crimp tool for $4.

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Jonnydaub
Thanks for the input guys, can someone show me what its spose to look like so i have a better understanding. The switch that is
914Sixer
Here is the new switch you PM me about. $20 shipped Priority Mail. Your remove the old two pole broken cap. Clean the ends of the wires with lemon juice and salt solution. It cleans the brass ends up nice.
Jonnydaub
Sorry for sounding like a dumbass but im confused as to where that switch screws into? Thought that plug in just plugs right into that port of the new master cylinder?
914Sixer
Where the single pole one is now.
Jonnydaub
So take out that single pole on the new master cylinder and put that double pole in?
914Sixer
Yes
Jonnydaub
Ok thanks for clearing that up haha, next question will i need a new end that plugs into that 2 pole switch?
euro911
See my previous post (post# 18) Click here - now poke.gif
Jonnydaub
Thanks euro, payment sent your way sixer check your messages
era vulgaris
QUOTE(Jonnydaub @ Aug 30 2015, 11:15 PM) *

Ok thanks for clearing that up haha, next question will i need a new end that plugs into that 2 pole switch?


As I said before, your old switch is BROKEN in half. Half of it is dangling with the spade connectors still plugged into it. There is no "end" that plugs in. The spade connectors that are crimped onto the wires plug into the metal tabs directly on the switch.
Jonnydaub
Got it now. I'm a visual person when it comes to working on cars that's why I asked so many questions. I wasn't sure what a unbroken one looks like so you see where I was coming from. Thanks for all the info tho guys. Big help
Jonnydaub
QUOTE(914Sixer @ Aug 30 2015, 09:49 PM) *

Here is the new switch you PM me about. $20 shipped Priority Mail. Your remove the old two pole broken cap. Clean the ends of the wires with lemon juice and salt solution. It cleans the brass ends up nice.



Did you get that shipped by chance yet?
914Sixer
Going out in the morning. I worked out of town today.
Jonnydaub
Awesome, appreciate it
euro911
Also, make sure to install a new copper washer when installing the new switch.

It's a good idea to 'bench bleed' the M/C before installing it in the car too.
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