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Mike1981
Hello Everyone

Just took possession of this 1972 914

It has a 327 Chevy Small block with performance cams KEP Clutch/Adapter

Still learning how the car handles but for my 2 short rides it is alot of fun

Needs some small paint repair (rust bubbles)

Otherwise I am very pleased with my purchase

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SKL1
With that engine, you may want to upgrade your brakes, etc... I see you still have 4 bolt original hubs and brakes... smile.gif
Mike1981
Thanks

The front brakes are BMW

The rears are the front 914 calipers
They stop the car really well

Also they have racing grade pads

The hubs are 4bolt

What do I get if I upgrade to 5 Bolt??
Bruce Hinds
5 bolt may give you a better selection of a wider selection of wheel sizes. Just going a little bit wider and slightly larger in tire size will make a world of difference in handling.

I've not seen the figures, but a 205/50 or 206/60 on a 7 inch wheel will about double the footprint of the original 165 on the 5.5 inch wheel. Sway bars?

With the right wheel and tire combo, some sway bars and the suspension set right, you'll really be able to take advantage of the V8. If you don't do any drag racing, the gear box and ring and pinion should hold up fine. CV joints usually fail when you accelerate hard out of a corner and light up the inside tire. That's where traction will help a lot, not to mention learning careful application of that power.

Enjoy-
flmont
What kind of power does the 327 make as it sits,..???
Maltese Falcon
Please give us a better description of the build of the engine, like what is the camshaft profile (you would not have camshaft(s)in a sb chevy).
The 327 came as a lowly 210 bhp 2 barrel carb. OR all the way up to a 375 bhp f.i. engine with a solid lifter cam. The latter goes into a classic corvette...doubtful that it's in your car.
Enjoy the v8, but get some decent brakes + cv joints !
Chris914n6
5 lug = 911 front suspension. You get a wide selection of vented rotors, plus more choices in wider correct offset wheels. Not cheap but is a valuable upgrade.
1stworks
Welcome to the dark side.
Nice looking car,enjoy!
whitetwinturbo
Post more "darkside" pictures beer.gif

Here's the slippery slope of 5 lug set ups:

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Bruce Hinds
QUOTE(whitetwinturbo @ Oct 15 2015, 09:19 AM) *

Post more "darkside" pictures beer.gif

Here's the slippery slope of 5 lug set ups:

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There are lots of 5 lug wheel options too that will fit under the narrow body fenders and you don't have to go to flares.
EdwardBlume
QUOTE(Mike1981 @ Oct 14 2015, 05:14 PM) *

Hello Everyone

Just took possession of this 1972 914

It has a 327 Chevy Small block with performance cams KEP Clutch/Adapter

Still learning how the car handles but for my 2 short rides it is alot of fun

Needs some small paint repair (rust bubbles)

Otherwise I am very pleased with my purchase

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Congratulations!
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Mike1981
Hello All

I will list the upgrades to this vehicle:

1968 Chevy 327 large main journal
heads post 1987 Chevy 4 bolt stainless 1.94 intake 1.5 exhaust
Camshaft Crane Cams??5840 hydraulic

Clutch/Flywheel
Kennedy Eng Products Stage III 9"
KEP Stage III Pressure Plate
KEP 228mm flywheel
KEP Pilot/throw-out bearing

Fuel MGT

Intake Manifold Pro products "typhoon"
Holly Carb 600 double pump

Mr Gasket fuel pump

Mr Gasket pressure reg
2 inline fuel filters
K&N air filter

Open System no thermostat
2 row aluminum radiator
Ford Tarus SHO fan 2350 CFM
185 degree fan switch
1970 Dodge water-pump 440ci impeller

Exhaust

1980 Corvette headers
Thrush turbo mufflers (Drone pretty bad from 1600 to 2400 RPM)

Brakes

Rotors...stock
Front 1980 BMW 320i
Rear porsche 914 fronts
911 master cylinder
proportioning valve replaced with t

Ignition

Distributor Stock HEI type
Coil: Accel
Plugs AC Delco CR43TS
100AMP alternator 1 wire
Starter IMI high Torque

Suspension
Turbo Tie rods
KB struts front
Bilstien coil overs rear
Front torsion bar 911
MOMO steering wheel

Rims

American Racing
Tires 205 50 R 15 Falken

estimated HP 325
Estimated torque 350 ft-lbs

This was sent to me from the previous owner who did the re-build

It also has a roll bar and racing seats

set up for racing with camber 1.5 front and back

Still getting used to the ride

lots of power

lots of fun

thanks for any advice
Mike1981
QUOTE(Mike1981 @ Oct 15 2015, 03:00 PM) *

Hello All

I will list the upgrades to this vehicle:

1968 Chevy 327 large main journal
heads post 1987 Chevy 4 bolt stainless 1.94 intake 1.5 exhaust
Camshaft Crane Cams??5840 hydraulic

Clutch/Flywheel
Kennedy Eng Products Stage III 9"
KEP Stage III Pressure Plate
KEP 228mm flywheel
KEP Pilot/throw-out bearing

Fuel MGT

Intake Manifold Pro products "typhoon"
Holly Carb 600 double pump

Mr Gasket fuel pump

Mr Gasket pressure reg
2 inline fuel filters
K&N air filter

Open System no thermostat
2 row aluminum radiator
Ford Tarus SHO fan 2350 CFM
185 degree fan switch
1970 Dodge water-pump 440ci impeller

Exhaust

1980 Corvette headers
Thrush turbo mufflers (Drone pretty bad from 1600 to 2400 RPM)

Brakes

Rotors...stock
Front 1980 BMW 320i
Rear porsche 914 fronts
911 master cylinder
proportioning valve replaced with t

Ignition

Distributor Stock HEI type
Coil: Accel
Plugs AC Delco CR43TS
100AMP alternator 1 wire
Starter IMI high Torque

Suspension
Turbo Tie rods
KB struts front
Bilstien coil overs rear
Front torsion bar 911
MOMO steering wheel

Rims

American Racing
Tires 205 50 R 15 Falken

estimated HP 325
Estimated torque 350 ft-lbs

This was sent to me from the previous owner who did the re-build

It also has a roll bar and racing seats

set up for racing with camber 1.5 front and back

Still getting used to the ride

lots of power

lots of fun

thanks for any advice



wow not one comment on list of upgrades??
1stworks
QUOTE(Mike1981 @ Oct 16 2015, 08:25 AM) *

QUOTE(Mike1981 @ Oct 15 2015, 03:00 PM) *

Hello All

I will list the upgrades to this vehicle:

1968 Chevy 327 large main journal
heads post 1987 Chevy 4 bolt stainless 1.94 intake 1.5 exhaust
Camshaft Crane Cams??5840 hydraulic

Clutch/Flywheel
Kennedy Eng Products Stage III 9"
KEP Stage III Pressure Plate
KEP 228mm flywheel
KEP Pilot/throw-out bearing

Fuel MGT

Intake Manifold Pro products "typhoon"
Holly Carb 600 double pump

Mr Gasket fuel pump

Mr Gasket pressure reg
2 inline fuel filters
K&N air filter

Open System no thermostat
2 row aluminum radiator
Ford Tarus SHO fan 2350 CFM
185 degree fan switch
1970 Dodge water-pump 440ci impeller

Exhaust

1980 Corvette headers
Thrush turbo mufflers (Drone pretty bad from 1600 to 2400 RPM)

Brakes

Rotors...stock
Front 1980 BMW 320i
Rear porsche 914 fronts
911 master cylinder
proportioning valve replaced with t

Ignition

Distributor Stock HEI type
Coil: Accel
Plugs AC Delco CR43TS
100AMP alternator 1 wire
Starter IMI high Torque

Suspension
Turbo Tie rods
KB struts front
Bilstien coil overs rear
Front torsion bar 911
MOMO steering wheel

Rims

American Racing
Tires 205 50 R 15 Falken

estimated HP 325
Estimated torque 350 ft-lbs

This was sent to me from the previous owner who did the re-build

It also has a roll bar and racing seats

set up for racing with camber 1.5 front and back

Still getting used to the ride

lots of power

lots of fun

thanks for any advice



wow not one comment on list of upgrades??


Pretty standard v8 build,old school style.
Should be a fun ride.
1stworks
QUOTE(whitetwinturbo @ Oct 15 2015, 10:19 AM) *

Post more "darkside" pictures beer.gif

Here's the slippery slope of 5 lug set ups:

Click to view attachment



Those wheels are beautiful!
whitetwinturbo
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....you know when you are 'losing it'....when your wheels may be worth more than your sled.....
Maltese Falcon
Nice shopping list on the sb 327.
I'm just wondering with mostly all good engine upgrades...why did the builder leave the low performance 1.94 heads; when this cam + 600cfm carb. will work so much better with the 2.02 heads? idea.gif For these sturdy 4 bolt- main iron blocks I prefer the Chevy cam #3863151 hydraulic, 2.02 angle plug heads, roller rockers and pushrod guide plates. Nothing from China...all U.S. sourced parts flag.gif
Andyrew
^^ So any modified honda owner?
Chris H.
QUOTE(Mike1981 @ Oct 16 2015, 09:25 AM) *

QUOTE(Mike1981 @ Oct 15 2015, 03:00 PM) *

Hello All

I will list the upgrades to this vehicle:

1968 Chevy 327 large main journal
heads post 1987 Chevy 4 bolt stainless 1.94 intake 1.5 exhaust
Camshaft Crane Cams??5840 hydraulic

Clutch/Flywheel
Kennedy Eng Products Stage III 9"
KEP Stage III Pressure Plate
KEP 228mm flywheel
KEP Pilot/throw-out bearing

Fuel MGT

Intake Manifold Pro products "typhoon"
Holly Carb 600 double pump

Mr Gasket fuel pump

Mr Gasket pressure reg
2 inline fuel filters
K&N air filter

Open System no thermostat
2 row aluminum radiator
Ford Tarus SHO fan 2350 CFM
185 degree fan switch
1970 Dodge water-pump 440ci impeller

Exhaust

1980 Corvette headers
Thrush turbo mufflers (Drone pretty bad from 1600 to 2400 RPM)

Brakes

Rotors...stock
Front 1980 BMW 320i
Rear porsche 914 fronts
911 master cylinder
proportioning valve replaced with t

Ignition

Distributor Stock HEI type
Coil: Accel
Plugs AC Delco CR43TS
100AMP alternator 1 wire
Starter IMI high Torque

Suspension
Turbo Tie rods
KB struts front
Bilstien coil overs rear
Front torsion bar 911
MOMO steering wheel

Rims

American Racing
Tires 205 50 R 15 Falken

estimated HP 325
Estimated torque 350 ft-lbs

This was sent to me from the previous owner who did the re-build

It also has a roll bar and racing seats

set up for racing with camber 1.5 front and back

Still getting used to the ride

lots of power

lots of fun

thanks for any advice



wow not one comment on list of upgrades??


Post more pics...that'll get the comments going.
Bruce Hinds
QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 16 2015, 09:49 AM) *

Nice shopping list on the sb 327.
I'm just wondering with mostly all good engine upgrades...why did the builder leave the low performance 1.94 heads; when this cam + 600cfm carb. will work so much better with the 2.02 heads? idea.gif For these sturdy 4 bolt- main iron blocks I prefer the Chevy cam #3863151 hydraulic, 2.02 angle plug heads, roller rockers and pushrod guide plates. Nothing from China...all U.S. sourced parts flag.gif

I can't speak for the builder, but I did the same thing with mine because the slightly smaller valves allow a faster flow for a better mix of air and fuel and better burn. This was a big concern for me since I was building mine in Colorado where the air is much thinner.

Even at lower altitudes unless you have high compression or are going to be running above 5500 rpm alot, there is little to no benefit from the bigger valves, they will actually not perform as well. At least that's what I've been told.

Do we have an SBC experts out there that can comment?
Mueller
QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 16 2015, 09:49 AM) *

Nice shopping list on the sb 327.
I'm just wondering with mostly all good engine upgrades...why did the builder leave the low performance 1.94 heads; when this cam + 600cfm carb. will work so much better with the 2.02 heads? idea.gif For these sturdy 4 bolt- main iron blocks I prefer the Chevy cam #3863151 hydraulic, 2.02 angle plug heads, roller rockers and pushrod guide plates. Nothing from China...all U.S. sourced parts flag.gif



See those rims/tires? Do you really think that extra HP left of the table by using lower performance heads would be missed since I doubt one could put it to the ground? smile.gif

BIGKAT_83
How does the power compare with the Subaru car you had ? Seems like a pretty nice car.
Mike1981
QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 16 2015, 01:17 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 16 2015, 09:49 AM) *

Nice shopping list on the sb 327.
I'm just wondering with mostly all good engine upgrades...why did the builder leave the low performance 1.94 heads; when this cam + 600cfm carb. will work so much better with the 2.02 heads? idea.gif For these sturdy 4 bolt- main iron blocks I prefer the Chevy cam #3863151 hydraulic, 2.02 angle plug heads, roller rockers and pushrod guide plates. Nothing from China...all U.S. sourced parts flag.gif



See those rims/tires? Do you really think that extra HP left of the table by using lower performance heads would be missed since I doubt one could put it to the ground? smile.gif



Im not sure I understand

Mike1981
QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 16 2015, 01:17 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 16 2015, 09:49 AM) *

Nice shopping list on the sb 327.
I'm just wondering with mostly all good engine upgrades...why did the builder leave the low performance 1.94 heads; when this cam + 600cfm carb. will work so much better with the 2.02 heads? idea.gif For these sturdy 4 bolt- main iron blocks I prefer the Chevy cam #3863151 hydraulic, 2.02 angle plug heads, roller rockers and pushrod guide plates. Nothing from China...all U.S. sourced parts flag.gif



See those rims/tires? Do you really think that extra HP left of the table by using lower performance heads would be missed since I doubt one could put it to the ground? smile.gif



Not sure I understand your comment

I think you are trying to say with a narrow body I could not install wide enough tires to take advantage of more HP??? Guessing

All I know about the build is the P.O. hired an Engine shop to build a track car that would not tear up the 901 tranny

Plenty of power for me
Mike1981
QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ Oct 16 2015, 01:26 PM) *

How does the power compare with the Subaru car you had ? Seems like a pretty nice car.



Hello BIGKAT

Good question

the 2.2 suby had good low end torque plus the turbo helped on the high end

I have only driven to V8 once aside from getting it home

Different power delivery altogether still learning it

Does not feel top heavy like some have experienced

Very stiff chassis helps this


Much better in turns and curves due to it being a track car

Scary fast on straight away

Only had it up to 95 MPH after dark and thought better of it

I will report back once I have some seat time

Love the new 914

Thanks for asking
Bruce Hinds

See those rims/tires? Do you really think that extra HP left of the table by using lower performance heads would be missed since I doubt one could put it to the ground? smile.gif
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Like he said, you must be careful not to build too much torque into the equation when planning the V8 set up if you're using the 901. Cam, heads and even the exhaust can make a difference. By tuning out some of the low end torque, I'm still producing about 330 hp at 5500 found I really don't need much more tire than the 205/60 on 7x15's that I've been running on the rear.

Suspension setup is critical but done right a v8 can be very well done in a narrow body car. Sure I get some wheel spin starting out in second if I'm not careful, but once the clutch is out in any other gear it just seems to dig in and go.
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