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bretth

Nov 28 2015, 09:18 AM

Found this on Criagslist. Has some strange engineering in it. Look at the cooling system and pulley and cable sway/suspension(?) system. Assuming it must run on alcohol fuel? No cooling fan.
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340 hp
10000 redline
14:1 comp
Fuel 118 Oct
Does not have supercharger , does not need it
18500 cash only , I do not have to sell it , I haven't had the time to race it . ( trades ??) Only of like value mopar 68-74 , fastback 65-73, 1930s coupes , tri five / wagons brass cars ,micro exc. I I only have time to show it to somebody who is ready to put it on their trailor and take it home if you like it . if you can not handle speed this car is not for you ! Again I do not have to sell this car so don't low ball tire kickers please don't waste my time . cash only no western union exc will not hold it and will not ship ! Thank you for your time .

Cracker

Nov 28 2015, 09:26 AM

Yeah right! A 340 hp type 4 motor? I don't believe that is possible AND have it last before approaching the first corner. Is it?

Tony

DBCooper

Nov 28 2015, 09:41 AM

QUOTE(Cracker @ Nov 28 2015, 07:26 AM)

Yeah right! A 340 hp type 4 motor? I don't believe that is possible AND have it last before approaching the first corner. Is it?

He's pretty emphatic about avoiding bullshit buyers and tire kickers, so I'm sure he'll be happy to demonstrate that for you, to prove he's not a bullshit seller. Right? I mean surely.

Mike Fitton

Nov 28 2015, 09:46 AM

Sort of an angry for sale ad! Must have been trying to sell it for awhile!

r_towle

Nov 28 2015, 09:52 AM

Cable thing looks like it would be to keep the wheels from drooping when jacked up, while somewhat farmer in design, it bet it works perfect for that job.

A lot of work went into the car, but quite a bit looks outdated to me.

7-8k maybe, but not 18k

As far as the motor goes, that type of motor need to be rebuilt often, so not really sure how he could make a claim like that without a dyno sheet.
240, I can see that.....340 no.

0396

Nov 28 2015, 09:55 AM

QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Nov 28 2015, 07:46 AM)

Sort of an angry for sale ad! Must have been trying to sell it for awhile!

Ya it doesn't sound like a good presentation of a f/ s posting. Maybe he's trying to filter out like he's saying, tire kickers.

I have a few parts that I've been trying to sell and one person sent me a PM low balling me. My response was at that price. I would rather throw it away and get better satisfaction vs selling at that proposed price point.

matthepcat

Nov 28 2015, 10:11 AM

I never understood people who will not ship a car. If a buyer pays to have a truck pick it up, why not?

It's like people who are "too busy" to post photos.

EdwardBlume

Nov 28 2015, 12:05 PM

Interesting build. Tough to buy that much art without really validating it all works.....

SirAndy

Nov 28 2015, 12:56 PM

Where's the fuel tank? And the drivers seat?

VWTortuga336

Nov 28 2015, 01:02 PM

QUOTE(matthepcat @ Nov 28 2015, 10:11 AM)

I never understood people who will not ship a car. If a buyer pays to have a truck pick it up, why not?

It's like people who are "too busy" to post photos.

And there is essentially zero market for that kind of build here in KC.

GaroldShaffer

Nov 28 2015, 01:54 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 28 2015, 12:56 PM)

Where's the fuel tank? And the drivers seat?

Red arrow points to Fuel tank. This a E-mod SCCA Autocrosss car.

SirAndy

Nov 28 2015, 01:59 PM

QUOTE(Garold Shaffer @ Nov 28 2015, 11:54 AM)

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 28 2015, 12:56 PM)

Where's the fuel tank? And the drivers seat?

Red arrow points to Fuel tank. This a E-mod SCCA Autocrosss car.

I guess that means no road trips ...

stugray

Nov 28 2015, 02:11 PM

I wouldnt give him $1800 for it.

Looks like a HUGE accident waiting to happen.
I would be afraid to drive it on the track.
Looks like it would fall apart.

And why are the intake manifolds tilting inwards?
Seems it would kind of hard to set the float bowl levels and synch the carbs.....

Mueller

Nov 28 2015, 03:25 PM

QUOTE(stugray @ Nov 28 2015, 12:11 PM)

Are the cylinder cooling shrouds made from paper mache?

Hopefully someone can get the VIN and add it to the "dead or disposed of" list of 914s.

bretth

Nov 28 2015, 04:42 PM

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Are the cylinder cooling shrouds made from paper mache?

Hopefully someone can get the VIN and add it to the "dead or disposed of" list of 914s.

LOL that sounds just as likely from the strange looks of it. I could not even make a guess after staring at the pic for the longest time. The cooling air intakes seem to originate from no where that can be seen either.

Brett

Chris H.

Nov 28 2015, 05:02 PM

Pretty friendly guy. No help with shipping, cash only, and HE DOES NOT HAVE TIME TO SELL IT. Sounds like that soup guy on Seinfeld. Just quietly pay the asking price, load it up and GET OUT. Any eye contact and NO 914 FOR YOU.

That gas tank setup is crazy

whitetwinturbo

Nov 28 2015, 08:41 PM

..............the seat can be had for extra money (if you are such a wus that you need one)

URY914

Nov 28 2015, 09:10 PM

Looks heavy.

Not sure I agree with the design of the roll cage, front sub-frame and the
cooling for the heads.

jmitro

Nov 28 2015, 09:44 PM

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Nov 28 2015, 05:02 PM)

LOL seriously. I mean, I hate people wasting my time just as much as he does, but that's just part of dealing with the GENERAL PUBLIC!

brant

Nov 28 2015, 11:49 PM

QUOTE(URY914 @ Nov 28 2015, 08:10 PM)

Looks heavy.

Not sure I agree with the design of the roll cage, front sub-frame and the
cooling for the heads.

carr914

Nov 29 2015, 05:59 AM

QUOTE(URY914 @ Nov 28 2015, 10:10 PM)

Looks heavy.

Not sure I agree with the design of the roll cage, front sub-frame and the
cooling for the heads.

I don't agree with anything on this abortion - Kill It with Fire!

LowBridge

Nov 29 2015, 07:21 AM

did anyone else notice the tech with a max of 9k and the sellers comment about a 10k redline?

ThePaintedMan

Nov 29 2015, 07:25 AM

...any engine will rev to 10k...... once.

racerbvd

Nov 29 2015, 12:36 PM

QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Nov 28 2015, 08:46 AM)

Sort of an angry for sale ad! Must have been trying to sell it for awhile!

Sounds to me like he is only listing it to appease

the wife.

Randal

Nov 29 2015, 01:21 PM

Wonder why he has PAXTON all over the car?

stownsen914

Nov 30 2015, 06:48 AM

I remember seeing pictures of that car from SCCA autox events back in the 90s. Don't recall anything more ththan that about it though.

Kraftwerk

Dec 1 2015, 02:30 PM

I always like to see race-builds, are those corvette front wheels?.. trying to place them, ugly... Anyway looks like a fun car, needs a seat and a bigger fuel cell tho... that price is probably what it cost to build actually...

Perforated sail panel: unique touch.

URY914

Dec 1 2015, 05:31 PM

He hacked the shit out of that car but left that heavy windshield in place? He took the weight out of the bottom of the car and left the weight at the top?

Weight should be low as low as possible.

stownsen914

Dec 2 2015, 05:41 AM

This car definitely has some kooky features, like the guy tried to be innovative but just missed the mark in a few cases. I can't quite get over the pulley mechanism in the rear suspension. Imagine showing up for race tech with a setup like that?

Olympic 914

Dec 2 2015, 12:18 PM

QUOTE(stownsen914 @ Dec 2 2015, 06:41 AM)

This car definitely has some kooky features, I can't quite get over the pulley mechanism in the rear suspension. Imagine showing up for race tech with a setup like that?

I can't see what would keep that cable on the pulleys. ??
No type of guides or anything.

SirAndy

Dec 2 2015, 12:31 PM

QUOTE(stownsen914 @ Dec 2 2015, 03:41 AM)

I can't quite get over the pulley mechanism in the rear suspension.

My guess would be to prevent the wheels from dropping down too far when the car is jacked up?

Or maybe a self adjusting sway ~~bar~~ wire?

campbellcj

Dec 3 2015, 11:41 PM

Yep it looks like an anti-droop setup to me.

For sure a boatload of time went into this build. You internet critics are over the top sometimes. It's just so massively modified specifically for autocross and has enough "do-overs" that selling could be really tough.

JPIII

Dec 4 2015, 10:20 AM

It is always interesting to see cars built for the upper classes of SCCA. Backyard engineering in full flower.....I don't see much anymore since I no longer make National Tour events.
The fella looks like he did a pretty good job of stiffening the 914's chassis and if everything else was thrown away, it would be a good place to start.
As such it is overpriced, IMO.
A huge part of selling a race car is it's competition history....nuthin there.

Mueller

Dec 4 2015, 01:58 PM

QUOTE(campbellcj @ Dec 3 2015, 09:41 PM)

Yep it looks like an anti-droop setup to me.

For sure a boatload of time went into this build. You internet critics are over the top sometimes. It's just so massively modified specifically for autocross and has enough "do-overs" that selling could be really tough.

I think the ad posters attitude and unsubstantiated claims helped fuel the critics.

VWTortuga336

Dec 4 2015, 02:16 PM

campbellcj

Dec 4 2015, 06:54 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Dec 4 2015, 12:58 PM)

I think the ad posters attitude and unsubstantiated claims helped fuel the critics.

Oh for sure, the attitude and the ludicrous power claims for an NA Type 4 do not help his cause...

Lord help me if/when I ever decide to sell mine. Every one of our cars probably has things somebody would balk about and do differently.

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