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Skydance

Can anyone tell me the sale price of this GT factory built car in 2008

What would the likely sales price of this car be in the present marketplace?

How many factory built GT cars presently remain in the states?

2008 Ebay listing LINK: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...t&id=159522

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/ca...t-race-34-years
iwanta914-6
Not sure what it sold for, looks like it was sold in 2010 according to this (includes more pictures too)

http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/72993/index.html
dflesburg
If the question is

What would a new factory car like this sell for today?

You would have to look at the:

Cayman GT4 or the Boxster Spyder

so about 85k

otherwise, if the question is what does this old race car bring on an open market...

Whatever someone is willing to pay...

Ponzi schemers have no problem spending other peoples money.... Rich people buy cars to put in a private collection... like kids collect hot wheels.
gms
QUOTE(Skydance @ Dec 2 2015, 08:56 AM) *

Can anyone tell me the sale price of this GT factory built car in 2008

What would the likely sales price of this car be in the present marketplace?

How many factory built GT cars presently remain in the states?

2008 Ebay listing LINK: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...t&id=159522

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/ca...t-race-34-years

As it turns out this 914/6 (914.043.1571) was not converted at the factory, more likely at Bozzani Porsche or the dealer in Portugal who first purchased the car. Sale prices at this level are usually not disclosed but you could figure around $300,000. Race history really plays a big part in the value and this car has none
Skydance
QUOTE(dflesburg @ Dec 2 2015, 08:00 AM) *

If the question is

What would a new factory car like this sell for today?

You would have to look at the:

Cayman GT4 or the Boxster Spyder

so about 85k

otherwise, if the question is what does this old race car bring on an open market...

Whatever someone is willing to pay...

Ponzi schemers have no problem spending other peoples money.... Rich people buy cars to put in a private collection... like kids collect hot wheels.


My reference is to this specific advertised factory built 914-6 GT

With the new information provided it looks like this was not a Factory Built 914-6 GT
I'm still very interested in the sales price, looks like a super nice dealer build GT

My inquiry is regarding sale prices of the few factory built 914-6 GT with and without race history.

Anyone who can provide me with auction or other sales in recent years would be much appreciated.
iwanta914-6
What if one of the three factory 914-6 GT's that swept the podium at the 1970 Marathon de la Route came up for Auction? Or the 1970 LeMans GT class winner car #40?

Is there possibly a Million Dollar 914 out there?

I just found this one that apparently sold for 400,000 Euros last year. A "world" member apparently owned this?
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/161186986

Also the car in question in the OP is stated in pbase that it sold at or near $400,000.

This one is currently (as of October) listed for sale at $495,000:
http://www.koelnberger-cars.de/cars_porsche_914_en.html

Pbase 914-6 GT sales history can be found here:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/market_history_9146gt
Skydance
QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Dec 2 2015, 12:13 PM) *

What if one of the three factory 914-6 GT's that swept the podium at the 1970 Marathon de la Route came up for Auction? Or the 1970 LeMans GT class winner car #40?

Is there possibly a Million Dollar 914 out there?

I just found this one that apparently sold for 400,000 Euros last year. A "world" member apparently owned this?
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/161186986

Also the car in question in the OP is stated in pbase that it sold at or near $400,000.

This one is currently (as of October) listed for sale at $495,000:
http://www.koelnberger-cars.de/cars_porsche_914_en.html

Pbase 914-6 GT sales history can be found here:

http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/market_history_9146gt



"What if one of the three factory 914-6 GT's that swept the podium at the 1970 Marathon de la Route came up for Auction? Or the 1970 LeMans GT class winner car #40?
Is there possibly a Million Dollar 914 out there?"

It would be a real eye opener to see one of those history making winners sell at auction.

I hope others can turn up more information for the top valued 914's
Mueller
Are you buying or selling a factory GT?
Skydance
QUOTE(Mueller @ Dec 2 2015, 02:34 PM) *

Are you buying or selling a factory GT?


I'm looking to buy a 914-6 GT

I was able to buy a fantastic Ravenna 914-4 from Rick and Sandy and more recently an Adriatic Blue matching numbers 914-6

Regarding prices, it's difficult to find comparable GT cars with so many variable options created from the Factory Built 914-6 GT
(It is much easier to find comps for the 914 and 914-6)

My goal is a very clean street 914-6 GT with some old world GT influence or an older 914-6 racer.

I'm interested in both long term value and driver enjoyment.


Mueller
QUOTE(Skydance @ Dec 2 2015, 04:10 PM) *

QUOTE(Mueller @ Dec 2 2015, 02:34 PM) *

Are you buying or selling a factory GT?


I'm looking to buy a 914-6 GT

[b]I was able to buy a fantastic Ravenna 914-4 from Rick and Sandy and more recently an Adriatic Blue matching numbers 914-6


Regarding prices, it's difficult to find comparable GT cars with so many variable options created from the Factory Built 914-6 GT
(It is much easier to find comps for the 914 and 914-6)

My goal is a very clean street 914-6 GT with some old world GT influence or an older 914-6 racer.

I'm interested in both long term value and driver enjoyment.[/b]



Yes, I remember your threads and pictures, beautiful cars indeed you have there!

For a real GT, could see the price go +/- $100K easily over the real value depending on whom you asked. I think some people just like to set an unrealistic price.
jor
Skydance, you know how to live! pray.gif
Skydance
QUOTE(jor @ Dec 2 2015, 04:21 PM) *

Skydance, you know how to live! pray.gif


I've received a lot of important help from Rick, some really great people on the "World"
iwanta914-6
Man, that Ravenna that you got from Rick is so sweet!
sixnotfour
some more pics of the GT
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/9146gt_factory...0431571_bozzani
Dave_Darling
QUOTE(Skydance @ Dec 2 2015, 04:10 PM) *

I'm looking to buy a 914-6 GT
....
My goal is a very clean street 914-6 GT with some old world GT influence or an older 914-6 racer.



So it sounds like a GT "tribute" car is one of the possibilities? If so, that's a whole lot less $$ than a factory-built one. Glenn Stazak (hi, Glenn!) tells us there were only ~40 built by the factory.

http://www.stazak.com/914/gt/car/car.html

With ~40 built, and probably most of those raced at some point, you're looking for a very rare car when you say "a factory-built 914-6 GT with no race history".

That yellow one that showed up again recently is probably going to be the only recent example of one for sale.


If you have a "tribute" car, you can drive it. If you have one of the real ones, chances are it will be too valuable to really drive...

--DD
gms
QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Dec 3 2015, 01:35 PM) *

Glenn Stazak (hi, Glenn!) tells us there were only ~40 built by the factory.


Hi Dave!
Skydance
I'm looking for a factory built 914-6 with as many additional GT options as I can afford.

My second choice is a factory built 914-6 turned race car with added GT flares.

My hunt is for original 914-6 vins in two different cars one street and one race.

I'm going to be looking at a couple old race cars in the near future, both with 914 vins.

An original factory built 914-6 GT I cannot afford, with or without race history.
maxwelj
Where did the information come from that says that 1571 was not a factory GT? I knew the first private owner (Charley Grimes) when he bought the car in 1972, and remember him bringing the car back to Tulsa. (made it as far as El Paso before it broke a rocker arm and had to be trailered the rest of the way). He had said it was a factory built car at that time. It was then sold or passed on to its second owner and it sat in his service showroom in Tulsa until 2003 or so.

There was an earlier thread about this car when it was listed for $375K, and ericreed had posted the ebay description which detailed the build history, saying it was special project 42 from the factory. Of course, ebay descriptions may be faked, but at that price you would think the seller would have documentation to back it up. Was it later proven to be incorrect?
Skydance
QUOTE(maxwelj @ Dec 4 2015, 01:25 AM) *

Where did the information come from that says that 1571 was not a factory GT? I knew the first private owner (Charley Grimes) when he bought the car in 1972, and remember him bringing the car back to Tulsa. (made it as far as El Paso before it broke a rocker arm and had to be trailered the rest of the way). He had said it was a factory built car at that time. It was then sold or passed on to its second owner and it sat in his service showroom in Tulsa until 2003 or so.

There was an earlier thread about this car when it was listed for $375K, and ericreed had posted the ebay description which detailed the build history, saying it was special project 42 from the factory. Of course, ebay descriptions may be faked, but at that price you would think the seller would have documentation to back it up. Was it later proven to be incorrect?



Maxwelj - I would like to think some portion of the GT build was done at the factory if it sold anywhere near $400k

I'm the guy trying to learn:)
rick 918-S
Dennis, you need to spend some time with Glenn. He is a wealth of knowledge on the subject of GT's, IMSA and 6's. He will be able to steer you along the way. He has forgotten more than many of us know about that subject.
gms
QUOTE(maxwelj @ Dec 4 2015, 03:25 AM) *

Where did the information come from that says that 1571 was not a factory GT? I knew the first private owner (Charley Grimes) when he bought the car in 1972, and remember him bringing the car back to Tulsa. (made it as far as El Paso before it broke a rocker arm and had to be trailered the rest of the way). He had said it was a factory built car at that time. It was then sold or passed on to its second owner and it sat in his service showroom in Tulsa until 2003 or so.

There was an earlier thread about this car when it was listed for $375K, and ericreed had posted the ebay description which detailed the build history, saying it was special project 42 from the factory. Of course, ebay descriptions may be faked, but at that price you would think the seller would have documentation to back it up. Was it later proven to be incorrect?

Kardex information shows that the car left the factory without the GT options.
It was imported to Portugal and went to Bozzani dealership but it is unclear where the conversion took place. I now question whether the invoice was real.
It is still one of the most pristine examples around just not factory built.
gms
QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Dec 4 2015, 07:44 AM) *

Dennis, you need to spend some time with Glenn. He is a wealth of knowledge on the subject of GT's, IMSA and 6's. He will be able to steer you along the way. He has forgotten more than many of us know about that subject.

Thanks for your kind words Rick
larryM

grist for the mill:

“If you love Porsche and want to get into something that has that badge, you can get into a relatively good one for $30,000.”

It comes down to numbers—how many of a particular model Porsche produced that year. (The rarer the model the more it will cost.) It also comes down to quality. "

read on.............
rising porsche values

.
Skydance
QUOTE(larryM @ Dec 29 2015, 11:13 PM) *

grist for the mill:

“If you love Porsche and want to get into something that has that badge, you can get into a relatively good one for $30,000.”

It comes down to numbers—how many of a particular model Porsche produced that year. (The rarer the model the more it will cost.) It also comes down to quality. "

read on.............
rising porsche values

.



The article never mentions Porsche 914 by name, I guess the 914 isn't one of the fine investment cars:/
larryM
QUOTE(Skydance @ Dec 30 2015, 07:21 AM) *

The article never mentions Porsche 914 by name, I guess the 914 isn't one of the fine investment cars:/


more links -

2012 we are our own market 914World http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...w=&st=&

2013 http://thesportscarguys.com/2013/06/25/10-...93-porsche-914/

2014 http://thesportscarguys.com/2014/04/10/pri...t-market-value/

2014 http://petrolicious.com/why-the-porsche-91...-is-collectable

2004 Jan. 2004 issue https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/porsche-914/

2012 Hagerty
914 https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools...porsche-914-1.7
914-6 https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools...rsche-914!6

2016 Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/RESTORATION-PROGRE...ARTS-NO-RESERVE

Excellence https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/bu...guide/856880138

2013 The Samba - http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6669446

914,org value guide http://www.porsche914.org/untitled.html

2015 914-6 Bloomberg http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-30/t...est-in-now.html

2014 Greg Fullmer’s Glocker 914-6 GT – allegedly sold for about $225K ??? also discussions on World & Pelican http://flatsixes.com/cars/for-sale-cars/on...-914-6-gt-sale/

Classic Cars.com http://classiccars.com/listings/find/all-years/porsche/914

2016 http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-f...e/porsche/914-6

2012 – 914World http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry1644833

Nov 2013 http://oppositelock.kinja.com/porsche-914-...ugly-1471226984

2015 914-6 $215K http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...=2&t=256701

2014 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...=2&t=235822
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