nebreitling
Mar 17 2005, 01:29 PM
they suck a lot.
phantom914
Mar 17 2005, 01:31 PM
So tell us the story.
Andrew
Jake Raby
Mar 17 2005, 01:34 PM
Nope.. You just have to get used to them.. They do their job VERY well and thats the main thing. A small flat blade screwdriver and dental pick are your best friends.
Wait till you have to remove them....
My 3 liter has TRIPLE spiral locks...
nebreitling
Mar 17 2005, 01:40 PM
i'm figuring them out now. got to do a little pre-stretch it seems to spiral them in.
i can't imagine what a PITA it would be to take out those triple spirals!!
i can certainly see why they'd do their job so well.
MattR
Mar 17 2005, 01:44 PM
Im just curious, how do you remove them? Do you have to destroy them? When I was putting them in I was thinking "these are permanent, dont fuck up matt"
Demick
Mar 17 2005, 01:52 PM
Once you get the hang of them they install very easy. Yes, you stretch them out first and use a jewelers screwdriver to put them in.
I did have to remove the cylinders on one side after I installed the spiral rings. Boy, getting them out is VERY difficult!! I think it took me a full hour (and a lot of cursing and sweating) to get out those two spiral rings.
I don't envy the person who disassembles my engine or any other engine with these retainers (hopefully it will not be me!)
Demick
muddboy
Mar 17 2005, 08:43 PM
There really is a trick to it.... I end up assembling 3 or 4 V'8's a week with double spiro-locs. I had to get used to it. And once you know the tricks, its really easy (in and out). thought you still with get cut once in a while... those things are sharp for my fat fingers.
what I hate is what alot of guys are going with now days is a round "wire-loc". gotta hold your tounge just right... or "ping" and it goes flying across the room.
Jake Raby
Mar 17 2005, 09:10 PM
The wire lock came from NASCAR.. I Love it and now all my custom pistons use them.
Brett W
Mar 17 2005, 09:42 PM
Spiro-locks are great aren't they. As bad as they are to get out they do stay put. They are loads of fun on a VW motor because you get to work around the studs as well. At least on normal engines you can assemble the pins on the bench. I think Powerhouse makes a tool called a Lock-Buster. I have heard it works pretty well.
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