TravisNeff
Mar 17 2005, 05:39 PM
I am having all sorts of fun with my blast cabinet, and it makes nuts and bolts look new. I am wondering if there are any bolts and such that are surface hardened (or something) that I may damage by cleaning them up this way? Lug bolts and junk like that.
Gint
Mar 17 2005, 07:43 PM
I've wondered the same thing myself. I've bead blasted a few nuts and bolts. I'm looking forward to the board's metallurgist's responses.
Consider this a bump.
Blast cabinet is... well, a blast huh?
Flat VW
Mar 17 2005, 07:50 PM
Would my wheels (one at a time, wiseguy) fit in that blast cabinet of yours, Travis?
John
TimT
Mar 17 2005, 08:01 PM
blasting with media is a method of surface hardening, AKA shot peening. Metal can be hardened via chemical methods as well ie tuftriding, nitriding,etc.
I doubt that you will drastically alter a parts strength by bead blasting in a home cabinet..
glass bead and black beauty fracture when they impact steel while blasting. they impart a profile of 1-4 mils...but usually cant be reused with the same results
CptTripps
Mar 17 2005, 08:04 PM
I got a cabinet and I haven't even used it yet. Guess I ought to start...eh?
Where did you get your cabinet?
rezron
Mar 17 2005, 08:37 PM
I'm looking for a blast cabinet for my garage. What kind and size do you have? How good does it work?
Thanks,
rezron
RAR
Mar 17 2005, 09:35 PM
TimT has it right. It's unlikely clean up media (as opposed to shot) would noticeably affect hardness. Case hardened metals (done chemically) probably aren't affected either. There is a blast media called Zirblast that peens the surface and helps to resist corrosion, but it is outrageously expensive. It is a bead media that doesn't deteriorate on impact. It looks like white sand. When you use a media that fractures on impact (most), or that roughens the surface, you are more likely to encourage corrosion.
Gint
Mar 17 2005, 10:49 PM
My cabinet is the Harbor Freight unit that is sold for $170 to $230 or so depending on whether or not it's on sale. With a couple of mods it's been serving me very well for over 5 years. For the price, it's actually a H.F. piece that's cost effective.
TravisNeff
Mar 17 2005, 11:00 PM
I have a smaller harbor frieght one, goes for around 99 bucks. I put a 24" flourescent light in it (that is how wide it is) with a handy box with a light switch. Trick!
It may fit a wheel in it, I'd sure like to try it John.
So far I only have used the glass bead, I need to do a 1/2 mix of silica to get it more aggressive. It takes forever with the glass, doesn't really remove pitting - but more aggressive stuff will. You can hook up a shop vac to it to keep the dust down and when I start breaking down the media the dust goes everywhere, so I stuff an old stinky sock in the hole for the air line to help.
I'll take a pick of mine and my custom storage/roller tomorrow.
CptTripps
Mar 18 2005, 05:54 AM
QUOTE (Travis Neff @ Mar 18 2005, 12:00 AM) |
I have a smaller harbor frieght one, goes for around 99 bucks. I put a 24" flourescent light in it (that is how wide it is) with a handy box with a light switch. Trick!
It may fit a wheel in it, I'd sure like to try it John.
So far I only have used the glass bead, I need to do a 1/2 mix of silica to get it more aggressive. It takes forever with the glass, doesn't really remove pitting - but more aggressive stuff will. You can hook up a shop vac to it to keep the dust down and when I start breaking down the media the dust goes everywhere, so I stuff an old stinky sock in the hole for the air line to help.
I'll take a pick of mine and my custom storage/roller tomorrow. |
I'm glad I'm not the only one with the HF cabinet!
I haven't used it yet, but I bought it because it was on sale for like $60. I'm going to put a light in it too, but I'll wait till I get closer to puting stuff back together.
Another thing I did for mine (not sure if I needed to or not) was to replace the gun inside it with a better one from the Central Pneumatic 'backpack' kit. It has replaceable nozzles so if you want to use something more corse, it won't eat away at the tip.
I HIGHLY doubt a rim would fit in there...
TravisNeff
Mar 18 2005, 10:15 AM
It would be a tight fit for sure, but it may work if you removed the grate on the bottom.
The unit I have has replaceable ceramic nozzles in different sizes. The blast cabinet is basically a box with a hole in the side for your air supply, a vent in the back with a little chimney - where you can hook up a shop vac. A door with a seal on it, glass window and a coupla rubber gloves that bolt up to the front of the box. The gun is basic, supply hooks up to the bottom, gun has a trigger for air, which by vacuum sucks up your media through a vinyl tube that is stuff into your media pile.
If I was going to get a larger one, I would just make one. gloves are cheap and if you can get a gun separately - you are in business. The really big units are very expensive - for what they are. An elaborate sheet metal box.
Gint
Mar 18 2005, 05:32 PM
You guys are talking about the small unit. Mine is the larger one. I can easily fit as large as a 17" wheel in mine. In fact, I've bead blasted a few Fuchs in it.
TravisNeff
Mar 18 2005, 05:43 PM
Yep the small unit, didn't go big because I didn't know how much of it i would do.
TravisNeff
Mar 18 2005, 05:51 PM
I have this one. 18-3/8 L X 26 W X 28 3/16 H, door opening 16 W X 15 1/4
Gint
Mar 18 2005, 06:43 PM
Yup, that's one of the smaller ones. I have this one:
* 12 and 18 gauge steel construction
* Dust port: 2-1/2'' O.D.
* Arm hole opening: 7''
* Hose: 3/8'' with 1/4'' NPT
* Work area: 33-1/2'' x 21-3/4'' x 14''
* Overall dimensions: 37'' x 22-1/2'' x 54-1/2''
I got it for $200 on sale 5 years or so ago. It's seen some use and still works pretty well. And I don't say that about a lot of H-F tools.
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