pch1north
Sep 30 2016, 01:11 AM
I'll take 2
74 2.0
saigon71
Sep 30 2016, 06:41 AM
One for me please.
Thanks Mark!
BeatNavy
Oct 4 2016, 07:33 AM
It looks like you've made your bogey, Mark, but please count me in for one as well.
Thanks.
914_teener
Oct 4 2016, 09:12 AM
QUOTE(turk22 @ Sep 22 2016, 05:49 PM)
I am in for one, I need the 73 2.0 L specs
Its my understanding that they are NLA and have the 0 280 130 017 P/N
According to Brad:
"The 1973 2.0L's came with the:
0 280 130 017 head temperature sensor,
039 971 762 A ballast resistor,
0 280 100 037 manifold pressure sensor, and the
022 906 021 E version of the ECU.
This set of components must be used together. "
My understanding of the above is that the 17 was used in conjunction with the 037 ecu and the the adjusted mps to account for tje volumetric change for just the 73 2 liter..hence McMarks statement.
I.m using a 74 ecu....which are becoming very difficult to find nowdays.
When do we send yoi money Mark?
malcolm2
Oct 4 2016, 10:06 AM
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Sep 17 2016, 09:04 AM)
Great! Gonna be ok for thT 1.8L L-Jet ?
I could not follow all the part #s, etc... but it sounds like you are making the part for the D-Jet FI, correct?
What will it take to get an L-Jet version? I would be interested in that.
RohJay
Oct 4 2016, 12:32 PM
QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Oct 4 2016, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Sep 17 2016, 09:04 AM)
Great! Gonna be ok for thT 1.8L L-Jet ?
I could not follow all the part #s, etc... but it sounds like you are making the part for the D-Jet FI, correct?
What will it take to get an L-Jet version? I would be interested in that.
The "012" Mark is refers to is Bosch part no. 0 280 130 012.
Which corresponds to both VAG #s 311 906 041A and 022 906 041.
It is correct for L-Jet
malcolm2
Oct 4 2016, 12:41 PM
QUOTE(RohJay @ Oct 4 2016, 01:32 PM)
QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Oct 4 2016, 09:36 PM)
QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Sep 17 2016, 09:04 AM)
Great! Gonna be ok for thT 1.8L L-Jet ?
I could not follow all the part #s, etc... but it sounds like you are making the part for the D-Jet FI, correct?
What will it take to get an L-Jet version? I would be interested in that.
The "012" Mark is refers to is Bosch part no. 0 280 130 012.
Which corresponds to both VAG #s 311 906 041A and 022 906 041.
It is correct for L-Jet
GREAT. Then put me on the list......
I am equally confused in reading this...
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/TempSensorII.html#graph
Mikey914
Oct 4 2016, 04:46 PM
Drawing done. Stock inbound and will be cutting metal by end of the week. 1st parts will be available next week pending satisfactory testing.
malcolm2
Oct 18 2016, 09:19 AM
any update on this part?
Mueller
Oct 18 2016, 09:57 AM
Count me in for one please.
Mikey914
Oct 18 2016, 10:19 AM
We are starting to cut metal and have the components to assemble. Should have 1st parts this week (Thurs -Fri).
Mikey914
Oct 20 2016, 12:07 AM
Got on these a little earlier than I planned (burning some midnight oil). Have the 1st prototype part done. It tests out good, but I'm looking at a couple different techniques to assemble that I want to try and test before the full production
I'll be working on these tomorrow. Looking at assembly starting this weekend, so I'm opening up the GB so it can be done with the other 2.
I'm quite happy how these have turned out.
Final production will be using a brass clip like OEM, I will have them in shortly, but needed to actually put this in my car after bench testing.
Mikey914
Oct 20 2016, 01:47 AM
PMs going out to all
euro911
Oct 20 2016, 02:36 AM
Looks like you might have a larger market than originally anticipated too (meaning: bus parts stores, the Samba, etc.)
I was just verifying if these were correct for 914 1.7L, and found the following info at one of the on-line bus parts sites:
Temp Sensor for Fuel Injection. (Discontinued) Part Reference Number:
0280130012 Type 3 (Squareback/Fastback)1966 .... T Eng.
1967 ....
1968 .... U Eng.
1969 .... U Eng.
1970 .... U Eng.
1971 .... U Eng.
1972 .... U Eng.
1973 .... U Eng.
Type 4 (411/412)1971 .... W Eng.
1972 .... EA Eng.
1973 .... EA Eng.
1974 .... H4; 1.7L; 1679cc
Bus (Type 2)1968 .... B Eng.
1969 .... B Eng.
1970 .... B Eng.
1971 .... AE Eng.
1972 .... H4; 1.7L; 1679cc; CB Eng.
1973 .... FI; CB Eng.
1974 .... AW Eng.
1975 .... ED Eng.
1976 .... GD Eng.
1977 .... GD Eng.
1978 .... GE Eng.
1979 .... GE Eng.
Beetle1971-1978
Super Beetle1971-1979
VanagonAir Cooled : 1980-1983
Mikey914
Oct 20 2016, 02:44 AM
Paul Anders mentioned they were interchangeable. Curves look VERY close.
Jett
Oct 20 2016, 08:10 AM
Mark, if it's not too late I will take 4 (1.7, 1.8, 2x 2.0)
Thanks!!
brownaar
Oct 20 2016, 12:35 PM
I'll take 2.
Aaron
MartyYeoman
Oct 20 2016, 05:08 PM
PayPal sent.
Mikey914
Oct 20 2016, 09:18 PM
Codes sent to those that bumped. The production on these will begin this next week, as we are just finishing up all the machining.
Thanks to all for helping to make this possible.
euro911
Oct 20 2016, 11:16 PM
Thank
YOU, Mark
Paypal sent for 1 CHT and 2 sets of door clips
RohJay
Oct 21 2016, 12:14 AM
Mark, I have not received a PM...
hex9145
Oct 21 2016, 11:08 AM
If still available I'll take one
Yellow Resi
Oct 21 2016, 04:18 PM
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Oct 20 2016, 08:07 AM)
Got on these a little earlier than I planned (burning some midnight oil). Have the 1st prototype part done. It tests out good, but I'm looking at a couple different techniques to assemble that I want to try and test before the full production
I'll be working on these tomorrow. Looking at assembly starting this weekend, so I'm opening up the GB so it can be done with the other 2.
I'm quite happy how these have turned out.
Final production will be using a brass clip like OEM, I will have them in shortly, but needed to actually put this in my car after bench testing.
Please put me on the list for 1 , if possible 2 pieces.
Thanks
Java2570
Oct 21 2016, 07:20 PM
Just ordered mine, thanks for doing these Mark!
Wyvern
Oct 21 2016, 07:40 PM
I this will work for a '73 1.7 I would like one .
Can you please verify that this will work ?
Thank you
RohJay
Oct 21 2016, 11:36 PM
QUOTE(Wyvern @ Oct 22 2016, 07:10 AM)
I this will work for a '73 1.7 I would like one .
Can you please verify that this will work ?
Thank you
Yes It is correct for '73 1.7 :
Click to view attachment
Mikey914
Oct 22 2016, 09:41 AM
I’ve done some research into what Paul Anders detailed in the Djet system.
From his notes on the 0 280 130 003 and 0 280 130 012 versions of this part he mentioned
“012 sensor is in short supply. Either sensor should work OK.”
Looks like the curves are actually within 1.5% for the adjustability mixture control. that's on the rich side (of the 003 sensor) or about .5% of the final mixture (as it's about 30%).
I’ve checked the resistance curve on these and found them to be within 5%. As the fuel control is only adjustable by about 30% it would mean that the potential error would be about 1.5% too rich for a very cold start (about freezing) . the curve closes the warmer it gets.
For those that want to know the actual parts breakdown it goes like this –
70-73 - 1.7 sensor is the 0 280 130 003
74—76 – 2.0 sensor is the 0 280 130 012
73 2.0 used 0 280 130 017 but added a ballast resistor to compensate for the difference in the curve it had. Making it very similar to the 0 280 130 012, but will be richer on warm side and leaner when cold.
So the only thing I can possibly see a problem with is the 73 set up with the resistor present. If this applies to you, it’s possible the curve may be off some. If this is noticeable I can’t say for sure until I have feedback.
Just to note – Do not run ballast with my part with the ballast or wit will just be way too rich.
You will note that the attachment wire protection has been beefed up a little more than the OEM. This is because the wire on the stock part was known to break.
I have been told the 73 ECU will work as long as the ballast is not used.
Thanks
Mark
Rob-O
Oct 22 2016, 01:40 PM
I'll take one.
Mikey914
Oct 22 2016, 02:53 PM
Pm sent.
I will be closing out this group buy the 29th, so get them while on special price now, or pay more later. We plan to make our group buys shorter in duration, to encourage people to step up when they see them.
Thanks all!
RohJay
Oct 23 2016, 05:36 AM
Mark, I still have not received your PM with The Code.
Perhaps a glitch with the board messaging system?
Could you please forward it to my email address: rohjay@gmail.com.
Thanks
914four
Oct 23 2016, 09:05 AM
I'll take one for a '74 2.0L. Please include with my ECU cover order if possible.
Kelvin
Mikey914
Oct 23 2016, 09:49 AM
Sent to all if I missed someone let me know.
Mark
malcolm2
Oct 23 2016, 03:27 PM
Are we supposed to place and order on the website? Or is our post here save us a place in line?
Mikey914
Oct 23 2016, 04:15 PM
If interested you put your name down on the list here. I then contact you with the discount code to buy the part at the group buy price.
The GBs have a close date you don't have to buy right away, but probably don't want to wait too long.
PM sent
Jboulder
Oct 25 2016, 04:41 AM
I'll buy one!
Thanks,
Jackson
Niklas
Oct 25 2016, 06:23 AM
I take 4.
Niklas
914Sixer
Oct 25 2016, 02:18 PM
I will take 1 to go with the 2 ECU caps.
Mikey914
Oct 25 2016, 05:58 PM
PMs sent to all
Optimusglen
Oct 26 2016, 07:23 AM
This may be a dumb question, for for cars converted to carbs are CHT sensors even used?
pilothyer
Oct 26 2016, 08:18 AM
QUOTE(Optimusglen @ Oct 26 2016, 08:23 AM)
This may be a dumb question, for for cars converted to carbs are CHT sensors even used?
Nope
pilothyer
Oct 26 2016, 08:21 AM
I need one Mark.......Thanks.................Jerry
hex9145
Oct 26 2016, 12:28 PM
I'll take one please.
VoPo914
Oct 26 2016, 12:36 PM
I'll take one 2.0L.
Thanks-Blaine
TX914
Oct 27 2016, 06:04 AM
Mark, please include me in the group buy for a 0 280 130 012 version (for a '76 2.0). Thanks.
sb914
Oct 27 2016, 06:37 AM
I'm in for one
Firstcar
Oct 27 2016, 12:23 PM
Mark,
I'll take one a 0 280 130 012 version (for a '74 2.0). Thanks.
-Scott
Rob-O
Oct 27 2016, 09:23 PM
Got the PM with the code, but can't find this on your site. Got a link to it? It's not in the GB Specials section on 914Rubber...
Rob-O
Oct 27 2016, 09:24 PM
Oh for crying out loud...I found it!
sofi2t81
Oct 28 2016, 04:04 AM
I'm in for one 74, 2.0
Peter
Porschef
Oct 28 2016, 04:23 AM
Yeah, me too. Just in case.
Thanks for makin' what you make.
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