porsche-tom
Oct 16 2016, 06:52 PM
I made some side air scoop that might interest some of you
first i made my template
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porsche-tom
Oct 16 2016, 06:54 PM
Cut out with a jig saw and sanded. Added scoop with mesh
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porsche-tom
Oct 16 2016, 06:57 PM
Here is a pic of it came out(don't mind the primer and flare cut out) it will be going to the oil cooler
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draganc
Oct 16 2016, 07:11 PM
Well done! Where did you find/buy the scoop?
porsche-tom
Oct 16 2016, 07:28 PM
NACA you can find them on ebay
Olympic 914
Oct 16 2016, 07:47 PM
Wouldn't the mesh covering cause the air to flow right over the inlet?
porsche-tom
Oct 16 2016, 07:58 PM
I used an air gun and blew in the direction the wind should be going and I felt a good amount of air(I'm sure it restricts it a little)
tomh
Oct 16 2016, 09:48 PM
What are we cooling with these?
euro911
Oct 17 2016, 01:58 AM
Nice. IIRC, Elliot Cannon also runs one similar to that.
I'd like to shoot some cool air to my oil cooler too. What are the dimensions of the duct (allowing it to fit in the rocker)?
porschetub
Oct 17 2016, 02:49 AM
porsche-tom
Oct 17 2016, 04:34 AM
The actual opening is 2.5in the total width is 5in . No matter which one you get it will need trimmed
maf914
Oct 17 2016, 08:09 AM
QUOTE(Olympic 1.7 @ Oct 16 2016, 05:47 PM)
Wouldn't the mesh covering cause the air to flow right over the inlet?
I was thinking the same thing. That mesh appears to be very tight with a low percentage of open area. The air flow direction is basically parallel to the surface of the mesh and it appears the air will simply flow past the inlet. There is no reason for it to make a right angle turn through the mesh. I am no aerodynamicist
but I think the mesh may be defeating the design intent of the NACA inlet.
http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/naca_duct.html
porsche-tom
Oct 17 2016, 09:32 AM
Like I said I used a air gun parallel to the car and felt a lot of air. I like the mesh it makes it a little more subtle. But to each their own
Porschef
Oct 17 2016, 09:38 AM
This has worked great for me, from Racer Wholesale. A little epoxy and BBQ paint, connected to the oil cooler.
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wndsrfr
Oct 17 2016, 11:13 AM
QUOTE(Porschef @ Oct 17 2016, 07:38 AM)
This has worked great for me, from Racer Wholesale. A little epoxy and BBQ paint, connected to the oil cooler.
Click to view attachmentNow to figure out the airflow, tape a bit of yarn just inside the opening, get someone to video it out of the passenger window as you run up in speed....
JmuRiz
Oct 17 2016, 01:26 PM
QUOTE(Porschef @ Oct 17 2016, 07:38 AM)
This has worked great for me, from Racer Wholesale. A little epoxy and BBQ paint, connected to the oil cooler...
That looks GREAT, I may think about something like that if I need more airflow for my rear cooler once I install it.
JustinMeier
Oct 17 2016, 01:32 PM
Holy moly.. This may be the solution to my issue!
Beats moving the oil cooler to the front and it's sorta stylish.
Jetsetsurfshop
Oct 17 2016, 01:46 PM
QUOTE(JustinMeier @ Oct 17 2016, 11:32 AM)
Holy moly.. This may be the solution to my issue!
Beats moving the oil cooler to the front and it's sorta stylish.
Oil coolers belong in the front until you hit something.
Had a set up just like that, no mesh and with a scoop on the duct. At the track will were still seeing temps over 255°. Moved it to the front, 215°.
Do it once and go front.
JustinMeier
Oct 17 2016, 01:52 PM
QUOTE(Jetsetsurfshop @ Oct 17 2016, 12:46 PM)
Oil coolers belong in the front until you hit something.
Had a set up just like that, no mesh and with a scoop on the duct. At the track will were still seeing temps over 255°. Moved it to the front, 215°.
Do it once and go front.
I have a habit of shooting the messenger..
Ok, fine.. Winter project
Rand
Oct 17 2016, 01:56 PM
Anyone concerned with air flow could omit the screen or use expanded metal as course as the engine lid screen. No big.
In a vertical orientation, is there really a need to be concerned with debris getting in there?
SirAndy
Oct 17 2016, 01:58 PM
QUOTE(porsche-tom @ Oct 16 2016, 05:57 PM)
Here is a pic of it came out(don't mind the primer and flare cut out) it will be going to the oil cooler
How does your "scoop" actually scoop air?
Are you relying on the other end to create negative pressure?
Because that sure doesn't look like a high pressure area that would force air into the scoop.
Rand
Oct 17 2016, 02:07 PM
To Andy's point (and I'm just asking to learn)...
I thought the shape of NACA ducts moved air by design when it's moving at sufficient speed. (Whereas a simple hole/vent wouldn't.) Unless the destination side was enough higher pressure to stop it (maybe that's the crux?), it should still move air? Considering the engine cooling fan is always moving air through the engine compartment, is it still significantly higher enough pressure on the inside to negate the NACA?
Front yard mechanic
Oct 17 2016, 05:49 PM
It doesn't matter it it works if it looks that cool
Rand
Oct 17 2016, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Oct 17 2016, 04:49 PM)
It doesn't matter it it works if it looks that cool
SirAndy
Oct 17 2016, 06:09 PM
Front yard mechanic
Oct 17 2016, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 17 2016, 04:09 PM)
I have always liked to piss off the home owners association
iwanta914-6
Oct 17 2016, 06:57 PM
On a flared rocker like this, wouldn't it make more sense to move it further back and use the flared portion to create a nice scoop that air can easily enter? Similar to the Ferrari F40...
http://www.assettocorsa.net/wp-content/upl...13/03/f4021.jpg
JmuRiz
Oct 17 2016, 07:46 PM
...and the Berlinetta Boxer had it on the non-flared lower fenders. If Ferrari put it there from 1973 to 1992 with the F40, it must have made some kind of sense.
effutuo101
Oct 18 2016, 12:45 AM
My plan is to route the air from the hood using the heater tubes to push more cool air into the engine bay.
Porschef
Oct 18 2016, 10:14 AM
I haven't done any aerodynamic/wind tunnel/yarn testing, but I will say that the oil temps have never exceeded 220° (being generous) since installing the oil cooler. I've got the small, single fan Setrab unit located starboard of the tranny, with a custom shroud that I fabricated from some leftover ductwork, which is fed by a 2" hose from the NACA duct. The fan only goes on when I'm sitting in traffic for a while.
Prior to this install, the engine would hit 240° and remain heat soaked until I slowed down/ got off the highway. And it would take a little while to drop down to normal.
Pretty much all the testing I need to do.
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