I not only like the look of this mod but adds simplicity to gas fill ups the only negative from my perspective is now gas entry is not protected?
so any one have measurements and close up pics? I am assuming that it is more than just a hole. also probably a ring is welded on hood so as to give a relief even added seal? I think Patrick motorsports has pics in their gallery?
Full Version: any simple solutions to through hood gas fill?
If you're a friend of Eric Shea on Facebook, he outlines a pretty detailed GT build with his car...
And it looks amazing!
And it looks amazing!
QUOTE(funk @ Jun 9 2017, 01:41 PM) 
I not only like the look of this mod but adds simplicity to gas fill ups the only negative from my perspective is now gas entry is not protected?
so any one have measurements and close up pics? I am assuming that it is more than just a hole. also probably a ring is welded on hood so as to give a relief even added seal? I think Patrick motorsports has pics in their gallery?
How much do you have to spend ? its a skilled install and the parts are up there,if you aren't building a GT really not worth the cost or having a leaking hood if not done right.
QUOTE(porschetub @ Jun 9 2017, 03:58 AM)
QUOTE(funk @ Jun 9 2017, 01:41 PM)
I not only like the look of this mod but adds simplicity to gas fill ups the only negative from my perspective is now gas entry is not protected?
so any one have measurements and close up pics? I am assuming that it is more than just a hole. also probably a ring is welded on hood so as to give a relief even added seal? I think Patrick motorsports has pics in their gallery?
How much do you have to spend ? its a skilled install and the parts are up there,if you aren't building a GT really not worth the cost or having a leaking hood if not done right.
This is my car. It's a pretty faithful GT replica and I'm not doing the through-the-hood fueling. I can afford the parts, I just don't want a hole in my hood. I may change my mind. The GT's were pretty much all individual builds so there is a variety of configurations.
Used to be cool to pull into a full serve and let the kid walk around the car a couple times looking for the gas flap. 
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-R...Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure
I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-R...Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
QUOTE(Marek @ Jun 10 2017, 03:44 PM)
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...308364&st=0
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-R...Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are as said just in final production of packing these
,and we will be shipping these in August for sure , so dont spend all you cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Nice Watch Larmo......... oh,.. that's me.....
QUOTE(forrestkhaag @ Jun 10 2017, 02:12 PM)
Nice Watch Larmo......... oh,.. that's me.....
Didn't you copyright that picture?
No. I charged Larmo a "hand"ling charge! 
Went to a salvage yard and had them cut out the filler door section on a 99 Ford Pickup. Trimmed the sheet metal and cut a hole in the hood to match. Stitch welded the opening in the hood for a flush mount.Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
If your gonna go thru all the trouble then shouldn't you just do it
Like this , forget the hood , should come thru the fender
Ala
Like this , forget the hood , should come thru the fender
Ala
Worked well for me.
47.97 at Summit
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/plt-gd-801ck/overview/
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47.97 at Summit
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/plt-gd-801ck/overview/
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I did not do it partly because I would forever be splashing and spilling fuel on the hood. Also there's gotta be some small detrimental aero impact.
They do look cool though.
They do look cool though.
I see the Summit Racing unit is locking. Have others made their fuel doors locking?
RIP another original 914 hood.
My yellow car, Speedy was not a great car so drilling the hood wasn't a big deal. I will not drill the hood on my black car. The only way I'll do a through the hood gas filler is on a fiberglass replacement hood. Same goes for hood pins, or rear trunk black rubber catches.
ONLY fiberglass.
ONLY fiberglass.
Hoods are dirt cheap in Cali. Agreed as to fiberglasss hood and trunk being the way to drop 14.2 pounds fast.
QUOTE(forrestkhaag @ Jun 11 2017, 12:30 PM)
Hoods are dirt cheap in Cali.
For now...
QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 11 2017, 12:02 PM)
RIP another original 914 hood.
Actually it's a glass hood as is most of the rest my car (Sheridan Standard Widebody)
QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 11 2017, 09:02 AM)
RIP another original 914 hood.
Hood filler on Blackulla. Craig at CAMP
This is how I tackled the job.
I modified the tank to give me the chance to move the filler towards the center line of the bonnet more. The metal was so good to work with we just beat it into submission. I didn't want to weld anything onto such a big flat panel and warp it.
I modified the tank to give me the chance to move the filler towards the center line of the bonnet more. The metal was so good to work with we just beat it into submission. I didn't want to weld anything onto such a big flat panel and warp it.
Here's my set up...from GT Werk
http://www.gtwerk.com
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http://www.gtwerk.com
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QUOTE(Chief @ Jun 13 2017, 05:24 AM)
This is how I tackled the job.
I modified the tank to give me the chance to move the filler towards the center line of the bonnet more. The metal was so good to work with we just beat it into submission. I didn't want to weld anything onto such a big flat panel and warp it.
I like the way you finished your opening CHIEF....Nice job...
Keep up the good work.
QUOTE(Marek @ Jun 10 2017, 02:41 PM)
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-R...Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Marek, did these kits go into production?
Thanks,
Tom
To answer your "gas security" question, it Is possible to mount the Blau cap and filler neck "around" the original, so that the standard 914 neck is still in place - then a locking fuel cap can be used under the Blau cap.
Having done something similar on my car (fiberglass hood), the biggest pain is centering the filler neck to the newly cut hole; even a few mm out looks "off". Maybe someone else on the forum has an optimum alignment method?
- Tony
Having done something similar on my car (fiberglass hood), the biggest pain is centering the filler neck to the newly cut hole; even a few mm out looks "off". Maybe someone else on the forum has an optimum alignment method?
- Tony
If you like the race car look the above looks cool. I wish someone made one like the silver 914/8
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Peter Dawes did the fuel on number 41 a long time ago. The fuel door is from an airplane.
“California knows how to party”
Bob B
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“California knows how to party”
Bob B
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I like the under-hood fill. It gets tons of looks as first, people wonder why you're going under the hood then are surprised to see a trunk, and second, people wonder why you're putting gasoline in your trunk.
Except for racing, it's just "different". That's fine for me.
GA, still missing the old "flip the license plate down to fill" trick...
Except for racing, it's just "different". That's fine for me.
GA, still missing the old "flip the license plate down to fill" trick...
Mounted this using rare earth magnets....
QUOTE(burton73 @ Nov 11 2017, 03:01 PM)
Peter Dawes did the fuel on number 41 a long time ago. The fuel door is from an airplane.
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Bob-your filler is so cool! It's such a novel install using the camloc fasteners.
I'm looking at this one from 9xauto.com. (no affiliation) More of an access hatch rather than the actual cap of the tank, but looks like a cool option. I haven't tried it yet, but plan to soon. Click to view attachment
That may work but you need to change out the flush-head Dzus fastener to maybe a key or something so you do not need a screwdriver each time you need gas. $59 the price is good
Bob B
Bob B
QUOTE(jd74914 @ Nov 11 2017, 12:56 PM)
QUOTE(burton73 @ Nov 11 2017, 03:01 PM)
Peter Dawes did the fuel on number 41 a long time ago. The fuel door is from an airplane.
Click to view attachment
Bob-your filler is so cool! It's such a novel install using the camloc fasteners.
It is not really Camloc fasteners but you push one button down the second button goes up and the door opens. There is an arm inside and pushing the second button down make it pressure lock.
The unlock is engraved open, and the loch is marked close. If I remember it right I have not touched it for 5 years.
It is not just a hinge but has a spring arm and a hinge. The PO had it up and tried to open the front hood and bent it up. E's body man fixed it up. NEW RULE Never open the hood when the gas cover is open.
Bob B
QUOTE(burton73 @ Nov 11 2017, 03:01 PM)
Peter Dawes did the fuel on number 41 a long time ago. The fuel door is from an airplane.
“California knows how to party”
Bob B
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That is Peter DAWE.... without the s
Saw this at Hersey in 2016, And liked it.
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Never found out who did it, would love to know.
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Never found out who did it, would love to know.
QUOTE(914forme @ Nov 12 2017, 08:40 PM)
Saw this at Hersey in 2016, And liked it.
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Never found out who did it, would love to know.
That would be me...
The PO had it installed. Unfortunately I don't know what the unit came off of. It is well finished from the top, but a bit rough with on the back side.
I do get a lot of comments about it, surprisingly I've had many 914 guys (past and present owners) voice dislike as it breaks up a smooth hood. But it is nice nice filling up up w/o leaning under the hood.
Dayton, I grew up there.
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QUOTE(burton73 @ Nov 12 2017, 05:16 PM)
It is not really Camloc fasteners but you push one button down the second button goes up and the door opens. There is an arm inside and pushing the second button down make it pressure lock.
The unlock is engraved open, and the loch is marked close. If I remember it right I have not touched it for 5 years.
It is not just a hinge but has a spring arm and a hinge. The PO had it up and tried to open the front hood and bent it up. E's body man fixed it up. NEW RULE Never open the hood when the gas cover is open.
Bob B
Interesting. I was wondering why there were two buttons. Do you have any photos of the back side? I can envision how it works from your description, but the hardware is interesting-never seen anything quite like that.
QUOTE(somd914 @ Nov 12 2017, 09:40 PM)
QUOTE(914forme @ Nov 12 2017, 08:40 PM)
Saw this at Hersey in 2016, And liked it.
Click to view attachment
Never found out who did it, would love to know.
That would be me...
The PO had it installed. Unfortunately I don't know what the unit came off of. It is well finished from the top, but a bit rough with on the back side.
I do get a lot of comments about it, surprisingly I've had many 914 guys (past and present owners) voice dislike as it breaks up a smooth hood. But it is nice nice filling up up w/o leaning under the hood.
Dayton, I grew up there.
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So did I.
I liked the install, and does not break up the hood line more than a GT filler or the bolt on ones do.
I figure Each their own.
I have one of the little pop up units you see on motorcycles I am thinking about dropping on the cowl on the right side.
I also have a door from a Chevy Van that I got to doo the hood model.
And I have one of the bolt in units
And I have had GT fillers, I can do it all, and yet have done no of it.
Understand the look but just not for me.........
I'm happy with my hood being my secure gas cap cover. Pulling the hood latch isn't hard. I just don't get the need to hack a hole in your hood for a street car. It's not "cool," it's less secure, it harms the originality, yada yada. But to each his own. If you go down this road, at least do it right so it doesn't introduce water into the trunk.
No way to do a fender door like a 911?
QUOTE(Craigers17 @ Nov 12 2017, 01:02 PM)
I'm looking at this one from 9xauto.com. (no affiliation) More of an access hatch rather than the actual cap of the tank, but looks like a cool option. I haven't tried it yet, but plan to soon. Click to view attachment
That will look great on your motorhome.
QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Nov 14 2017, 04:59 PM)
That will look great on your motorhome.
Maybe an old beater motorhome. Please don't do that to a 914.
Hi Tom
Sorry I just noticed your message
We are almost ready with the kit , it will be ready before christmas .. this year :-)
Its the same cap as Chief have used ( its the kit I am making for 911 )
its just a simple plug and play kit , no welding needed !!!!
I know what you are thinking , but wait and see ... stay tune
Marek
QUOTE(theer @ Nov 11 2017, 06:46 AM)
QUOTE(Marek @ Jun 10 2017, 02:41 PM)
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-R...Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Marek, did these kits go into production?
Thanks,
Tom
I love the look.
Collected the parts .....years ago.
Can do the work.
But things sometimes change.
The process of getting gas in a 914 is cool. It eliminates damage by careless attendants
The outside cap is too tempting to thieves or mischievous kids.
And as McMark says it saves a hood.
I'm sure Mareks parts will be beautiful. And a big time saver.
Maybe on some future project.
Collected the parts .....years ago.
Can do the work.
But things sometimes change.
The process of getting gas in a 914 is cool. It eliminates damage by careless attendants
The outside cap is too tempting to thieves or mischievous kids.
And as McMark says it saves a hood.
I'm sure Mareks parts will be beautiful. And a big time saver.
Maybe on some future project.
Thanks, Marek.
Just in time for Christmas!
Hi Tom
Sorry I just noticed your message
We are almost ready with the kit , it will be ready before christmas .. this year :-)
Its the same cap as Chief have used ( its the kit I am making for 911 )
its just a simple plug and play kit , no welding needed !!!!
I know what you are thinking , but wait and see ... stay tune
Marek
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-R...Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now but you will like it for sure
I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Marek, did these kits go into production?
Thanks,
Tom
Just in time for Christmas!
QUOTE(Marek @ Dec 5 2017, 02:27 AM)
Hi Tom
Sorry I just noticed your message
We are almost ready with the kit , it will be ready before christmas .. this year :-)
Its the same cap as Chief have used ( its the kit I am making for 911 )
its just a simple plug and play kit , no welding needed !!!!
I know what you are thinking , but wait and see ... stay tune
Marek
QUOTE(theer @ Nov 11 2017, 06:46 AM)
QUOTE(Marek @ Jun 10 2017, 02:41 PM)
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-R...Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Marek, did these kits go into production?
Thanks,
Tom
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