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Olympic 914
Another 7x16 Front, 8x16 Rears. 951 wheels 23.3 offset. both ends.

Tires are 205/50-16 front and 225/50-16 rear.

Tangerine flares on both ends, need the 23 offset wheels on the rear to clear these tires.

it does sit a little high in the rear. I will drop it down someday....

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gothspeed
^^^ Fantastic semi-narrow bodies with 951 7s and 8s above!!! ^^^ smilie_pokal.gif

Here are some more flared pics with fuchs below smile.gif
sixnotfour
same blue 914 steel 'top with 7$8 x 16 3 piece fuch center wheels,,I own the wheels now
gothspeed
More pics! sunglasses.gif
mepstein
QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 6 2018, 07:00 PM) *

More pics! sunglasses.gif

That car looks fantastic!
VegasRacer

According to the pole, Elvira is the only one running 16 x 8 both front and rear.

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gothspeed
even more pics! smile.gif
Justinp71
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Feb 6 2018, 06:32 PM) *

According to the pole, Elvira is the only one running 16 x 8 both front and rear.



I vote best looking set of 16's!
sixnotfour
QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Feb 6 2018, 11:33 PM) *

QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Feb 6 2018, 06:32 PM) *

According to the pole, Elvira is the only one running 16 x 8 both front and rear.



I vote best looking set of 16's!

16x8,,911 wheels are probably the hardest to find,,and look way better than 16x9s
johnhora
Everyone...
Please be sure to post both the wheel size and tire size that are used on the 914 in your pictures (If known).
Like Olympic 914 did in his great looking 914.
It really helps to know both when selecting the right fit.
Thanks
gothspeed
QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 7 2018, 07:12 AM) *

Everyone...
Please be sure to post both the wheel size and tire size that are used on the 914 in your pictures (If known).
Like Olympic 914 did in his great looking 914.
It really helps to know both when selecting the right fit.
Thanks

Good point, I did not ask initially because I thought the thread might lose focus from wheels widths. But I agree that proper tire sizes can really enhance the look of the wheels and car. beerchug.gif

So in that theme, here are some pics sourced from erwan914's thread here:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=301336

He is running 7 & 8 x 15 fuchs with tire sizes:

front 205/50/15
rear 225/50/15
mepstein
QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 6 2018, 10:48 PM) *

even more pics! smile.gif


Glenn Stazak told me this blau metallic.

I love it. It's what color I am going to paint my GT car.
johnhora
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 7 2018, 01:35 PM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 6 2018, 10:48 PM) *

even more pics! smile.gif


Glenn Stazak told me this blau metallic.

I love it. It's what color I am going to paint my GT car.


agree.gif

gothspeed.....thanks for the pictures...
do you know what #64 (blau metallic) has for it's wheel tire set-up

Thanks...John
gothspeed
QUOTE(Mercurial @ Jan 25 2018, 07:46 PM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Jan 25 2018, 01:24 PM) *

QUOTE(Mercurial @ Jan 25 2018, 09:22 AM) *

Hi guys,

I'll be running 8 & 9" x 16" Fuchs on a car with GT flares and need to decide on tire sizes. Would 225/50 (front) and 245/50 (rear) look nice? I'm also considering 225/45 and 245/50, but I'm not sure how that would look.

Appreciate any guidance and thoughts. Thanks!

8 & 9 x 16 are under serious consideration with me as well. If I were to go that wheel size, I would do 225/45-16 front and 245/45-16 rear. This would make the front a tiny bit smaller in diameter than the rear.


More pics! smile.gif

gothspeed,

Are all of the cars in the pics running 225/45-16 front and 245/45-16 rear? If so, that's what I'm going with!
If I were to go 8-9 x 16 I would indeed run that tire size (225/45-16 front and 245/45-16 rear). smile.gif

but now im considering going 7 & 8 x 15" wheels with 205/50-15 front and 225/50-15 rear tires, like the green car above ... idea.gif

from another post: eric shea's tire size mentioned here:
QUOTE(johnhora @ Jan 25 2018, 07:09 PM) *

.............................
Yep aware of the aspect ratio....trying for the basic stock diameter target of approx 25"
I "talked" to Eric Shea and he is using 195/65/15 F and 215/60/15 R on his beautiful yellow 914-6 GT...this was mainly because he had some 7/8x15 Fuchs with tires on them from a 911 and they worked and no added extra expense....I'm all for that.
............................
^^^ Those thinner eric shea tire sizes seem like a good option as well. May work well for fender clearance during turns on lowered cars? smile.gif

QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 7 2018, 03:27 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 7 2018, 01:35 PM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 6 2018, 10:48 PM) *

even more pics! smile.gif


Glenn Stazak told me this blau metallic.

I love it. It's what color I am going to paint my GT car.

........

gothspeed.....thanks for the pictures...
do you know what #64 (blau metallic) has for it's wheel tire set-up

Thanks...John
John
I tried to zoom into the pic (#64 blau) and numbers looked like a 195/50r-15 in front but the picture was very pixeled and I cannot say for sure. they look much larger than 195/50r-15. More like maximum tire size for those wheels widths ... smile.gif


EDIT: now knowing those tires are some euro size designation. I zoomed in again and the rears are definitely: 23/62 R15 and the front "appear" to be 16/60 R15

someone else can chime in about euro tire sizes. I thought the normal 205/50-15 was a metric designation confused24.gif
Justinp71
I think Adriatic Blue is a really nice GT color, I think its a little lighter that the one pictured above.
mepstein
QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Feb 7 2018, 07:18 PM) *

I think Adriatic Blue is a really nice GT color, I think its a little lighter that the one pictured above.

agree.gif color of my first 914. Unfortunately, even in 1983, it was a rust bucket.
gothspeed
QUOTE(campbellcj @ Jan 24 2018, 09:24 PM) *

I've been hearing for years that 16x6's -- which used to be the cheap undesirable ones -- have been swooped-up to make custom 3-piece 17's and so forth.

Here's part of my stash off and on the car. I exclusively use 15x8" Fuchs and 15x9 Braid now and have some black centered and some RSR style.

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So what tire sizes are you running on those 8 & 9 x 15?? ? smile.gif ^^^

QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Feb 7 2018, 04:18 PM) *

I think Adriatic Blue is a really nice GT color, I think its a little lighter that the one pictured above.
Wheels look like 7 & 8 X 15 ... Do you know what tire sizes are on the Adriatic blue car? smile.gif



Anyone want to guess tire sizes on these black beauties below? sunglasses.gif
johnhora
gothspeed...
Yep I tried to zoom in too and it's not easy to see... biggrin.gif

It may be running some type of race tires...since some come in different size designations..
Like in the Dunlop and Avons...
I've used Hoosier and Goodyear racing tires in the past for the track and they had some wierd sizing numbers...you just have to get all of the tire dimensions and then choose accordingly. And sponsorship money helps pay for them biggrin.gif

I really like seeing all of these GT pictures biggrin.gif



mepstein
QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 7 2018, 10:25 PM) *

gothspeed...
Yep I tried to zoom in too and it's not easy to see... biggrin.gif

It may be running some type of race tires...since some come in different size designations..
Like in the Dunlop and Avons...
I've used Hoosier and Goodyear racing tires in the past for the track and they had some wierd sizing numbers...you just have to get all of the tire dimensions and then choose accordingly. And sponsorship money helps pay for them biggrin.gif

I really like seeing all of these GT pictures biggrin.gif

On the Blue GT car, the rear is 23/62R/15
I can't quite make out the front
18/80R/15 ?
gothspeed
The orange car has nice looking wheel/tire choices and the black car also has wheel/tire choices that look 'just right' IMO.

Orange car are 8&9 x15 wheels but I have not seen tire sizes.

Black car wheels seem to be 7&8 but because of the side view they might also be 8&9 x 15s

Now if I can figure out the tire sizes for both of these ... idea.gif

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mepstein
Orange one is chris's/campbellcj car
johnhora
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 8 2018, 04:44 AM) *

QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 7 2018, 10:25 PM) *

gothspeed...
Yep I tried to zoom in too and it's not easy to see... biggrin.gif

It may be running some type of race tires...since some come in different size designations..
Like in the Dunlop and Avons...
I've used Hoosier and Goodyear racing tires in the past for the track and they had some wierd sizing numbers...you just have to get all of the tire dimensions and then choose accordingly. And sponsorship money helps pay for them biggrin.gif

I really like seeing all of these GT pictures biggrin.gif

On the Blue GT car, the rear is 23/62R/15
I can't quite make out the front
18/80R/15 ?


Looks like they may be MICHELIN TB's

TB15 or TB5 tread

18/60R-15 = 215/55R15
23/62R-15 = 270/45R15

Coker Tire is making them again...see what you think

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-7122...U4aAntbEALw_wcB


mepstein
QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 8 2018, 04:15 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 8 2018, 04:44 AM) *

QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 7 2018, 10:25 PM) *

gothspeed...
Yep I tried to zoom in too and it's not easy to see... biggrin.gif

It may be running some type of race tires...since some come in different size designations..
Like in the Dunlop and Avons...
I've used Hoosier and Goodyear racing tires in the past for the track and they had some wierd sizing numbers...you just have to get all of the tire dimensions and then choose accordingly. And sponsorship money helps pay for them biggrin.gif

I really like seeing all of these GT pictures biggrin.gif

On the Blue GT car, the rear is 23/62R/15
I can't quite make out the front
18/80R/15 ?


Looks like they may be MICHELIN TB's

TB15 or TB5 tread

18/60R-15 = 215/55R15
23/62R-15 = 270/45R15

Coker Tire is making them again...see what you think

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-7122...U4aAntbEALw_wcB

I think $400 is more than I'd typically spend on a tire but if I had the Blue GT, I'd splurge.
burton73
I need tires for my 6--- 7s and 8s 15s Fuchs. Yea $395 a tire is a lot but ? to do.
What can we use. This is a next week problem for me. w00t.gif

Bob B
johnhora
agree.gif

$400+ is pricey for one tire...but that's the way it goes with vintage race tires...
and like you said on the Blue GT...hey what else would you do..

anyone looked at or tried using BFG Radial TA....sort of the old "chain link" tread look
put the white letters inside...decent sizes in these.

the 8" are the problem size wheel
and also trying to maintain an average tire diameter of approximately 25"
gothspeed
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 8 2018, 01:49 PM) *

QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 8 2018, 04:15 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 8 2018, 04:44 AM) *

QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 7 2018, 10:25 PM) *

gothspeed...
Yep I tried to zoom in too and it's not easy to see... biggrin.gif

It may be running some type of race tires...since some come in different size designations..
Like in the Dunlop and Avons...
I've used Hoosier and Goodyear racing tires in the past for the track and they had some wierd sizing numbers...you just have to get all of the tire dimensions and then choose accordingly. And sponsorship money helps pay for them biggrin.gif

I really like seeing all of these GT pictures biggrin.gif

On the Blue GT car, the rear is 23/62R/15
I can't quite make out the front
18/80R/15 ?


Looks like they may be MICHELIN TB's

TB15 or TB5 tread

18/60R-15 = 215/55R15
23/62R-15 = 270/45R15

Coker Tire is making them again...see what you think

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-7122...U4aAntbEALw_wcB

I think $400 is more than I'd typically spend on a tire but if I had the Blue GT, I'd splurge.
agree.gif tires are pricey but as mentioned, for the right car it is on par biggrin.gif

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 8 2018, 12:37 PM) *

Orange one is chris's/campbellcj car
Chris needs to post his tire recipe! smile.gif

Here is another GT, don't know if I posted this one yet, but i did not want the thread to go too long without a GT pic! shades.gif
campbellcj
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 8 2018, 12:37 PM) *

Orange one is chris's/campbellcj car



Hi all,

On my Phoenix Red racecar #673 above, the tires I'm currently using are:

Hoosier Circuit Racing Radial Slick, S80 compound
P/N 43558 215/580R15 Front
P/N 43568 245/580R15 Rear

Previously I used the Hoosier R6 in 225 Front and 245 Rear. I wanted to jam a 255 or 275 in back, but they wouldn't clear.

Before that it was a narrowbody car and I ran whatever Hoosier Rx flavor was current at the time, in a square 205 front/rear setup on 15x7's. The rear fender lips were rolled and slightly pulled for clearance back then.
gothspeed
QUOTE(campbellcj @ Feb 8 2018, 07:58 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 8 2018, 12:37 PM) *

Orange one is chris's/campbellcj car



Hi all,

On my Phoenix Red racecar #673 above, the tires I'm currently using are:

Hoosier Circuit Racing Radial Slick, S80 compound
P/N 43558 215/580R15 Front
P/N 43568 245/580R15 Rear

Previously I used the Hoosier R6 in 225 Front and 245 Rear. I wanted to jam a 255 or 275 in back, but they wouldn't clear.

Before that it was a narrowbody car and I ran whatever Hoosier Rx flavor was current at the time, in a square 205 front/rear setup on 15x7's. The rear fender lips were rolled and slightly pulled for clearance back then.
Thanks for posting tire sizes. I looked those up and dimensions are as follows:

Front:
Tire Size 215/580R15
Tread Pattern bb - Slick
Tread Width 8.6"
Approximate Diameter 22.9"

Rear:
Tire Size 245/580R15
Tread Pattern bb - Slick
Tread Width 9.4"
Approximate Diameter 22.9"

They 'appear' larger diameter in your pics but well balanced none the less. smile.gif

Here is a flared -6 with what looks like 8s x 15 all the way around (tires are 225/50-15)
gothspeed
7-8x16s
campbellcj
QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 9 2018, 08:08 AM) *


Thanks for posting tire sizes. I looked those up and dimensions are as follows:

Front:
Tire Size 215/580R15
Tread Pattern bb - Slick
Tread Width 8.6"
Approximate Diameter 22.9"

Rear:
Tire Size 245/580R15
Tread Pattern bb - Slick
Tread Width 9.4"
Approximate Diameter 22.9"

They 'appear' larger diameter in your pics but well balanced none the less. smile.gif

Here is a flared -6 with what looks like 8s x 15 all the way around (tires are 225/50-15)




Bear in mind that 'section width' is critical in terms of body clearance as well as appearance. These Hoosiers are actually just about 10" wide at the largest point, when mounted on 8's/9's. The Hoosier R6/R7 DOT tires also are particularly known for having a wider section width than most other tires of a similar stated spec/size.
gothspeed
QUOTE(campbellcj @ Feb 9 2018, 09:32 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 9 2018, 08:08 AM) *


Thanks for posting tire sizes. I looked those up and dimensions are as follows:

Front:
Tire Size 215/580R15
Tread Pattern bb - Slick
Tread Width 8.6"
Approximate Diameter 22.9"

Rear:
Tire Size 245/580R15
Tread Pattern bb - Slick
Tread Width 9.4"
Approximate Diameter 22.9"

They 'appear' larger diameter in your pics but well balanced none the less. smile.gif

Here is a flared -6 with what looks like 8s x 15 all the way around (tires are 225/50-15)




Bear in mind that 'section width' is critical in terms of body clearance as well as appearance. These Hoosiers are actually just about 10" wide at the largest point, when mounted on 8's/9's. The Hoosier R6/R7 DOT tires also are particularly known for having a wider section width than most other tires of a similar stated spec/size.

^^^ Thanks for sharing and posting that additional information smile.gif

Now lets get a proper Monday started sunglasses.gif !!

The wheels on the white car below appear to be the same width and replica brand as campbellcj's (orange car here VVV) 8s & 9s x 15. Are they? the rears look a tad wider on the white car idea.gif

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mepstein
Since Chris's rear wheels are Braids, they could both be 9's with a cosmetic or offset difference. But I'm just guessing.
gothspeed
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 12 2018, 10:36 AM) *

Since Chris's rear wheels are Braids, they could both be 9's with a cosmetic or offset difference. But I'm just guessing.
agree.gif I captured the braid size chart for their fuchs style wheels. They seem to have a lot more wheel size options than other replica fuchs I have seen so far. smile.gif
gothspeed
As a few people have mentioned there are few options for wider 15" tires. It seems 7s & 8s x15 are not only the most popular choice in the poll but also has better street tire options.

Here is another GT with 15s ... smile.gif
gothspeed
More! sunglasses.gif
mepstein
QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 14 2018, 10:25 AM) *

More! sunglasses.gif

Video game?
gothspeed
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 07:53 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 14 2018, 10:25 AM) *

More! sunglasses.gif

Video game?

good question. I retraced where I got the pics from and it appears they are real pics. They must have some photoshop filter or something like that.

Here is the link to the article. click on gallery smile.gif

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/history/por...impf-13247.html
mepstein
QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 14 2018, 11:55 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 07:53 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 14 2018, 10:25 AM) *

More! sunglasses.gif

Video game?

good question. I retraced where I got the pics from and it appears they are real pics. They must have some photoshop filter or something like that.

Here is the link to the article. click on gallery smile.gif

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/history/por...impf-13247.html

I think you are right. Great article. Car sits hi.
gothspeed
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 09:36 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 14 2018, 11:55 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 14 2018, 07:53 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 14 2018, 10:25 AM) *

More! sunglasses.gif

Video game?

good question. I retraced where I got the pics from and it appears they are real pics. They must have some photoshop filter or something like that.

Here is the link to the article. click on gallery smile.gif

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/history/por...impf-13247.html

I think you are right. Great article. Car sits hi.

Yes, those tires are far too fat biggrin.gif

Here is another GT!! sunglasses.gif
gothspeed
This thread needs another pic! sunglasses.gif
campbellcj
My car’s rears are the same Braid / BZ 15x9. Could be the camera angle or different flares and tires making them appear different in the pics.

They do look different than a true Fuchs. I think all repro/aftermarket ones do, probably due to design trademark/patent reasons as well as different manufacturing methods.
gothspeed
QUOTE(campbellcj @ Feb 15 2018, 09:42 PM) *

My car’s rears are the same Braid / BZ 15x9. Could be the camera angle or different flares and tires making them appear different in the pics.

They do look different than a true Fuchs. I think all repro/aftermarket ones do, probably due to design trademark/patent reasons as well as different manufacturing methods.

On your 673 car pic above it appears to have the braid style rim lip on both front and rear.
I went to the braid website and I only found some token pictures and not individual pictures of each width and diameter.
gothspeed
QUOTE(Racer @ Jan 19 2018, 03:12 PM) *

It all depends on tire availability.. which could be limited in both 15" and 16" diameters.

That said, I liked one I saw with 8x15 fronts and 9x16 rears.

hmm, I wonder if this awesome yellow gt has 8x15 front and 9x16 rear? idea.gif
campbellcj
QUOTE(gothspeed @ Feb 16 2018, 07:37 AM) *


On your 673 car pic above it appears to have the braid style rim lip on both front and rear.
I went to the braid website and I only found some token pictures and not individual pictures of each width and diameter.


Sorry, and good eye! I guess I have too many wheels and too many pics. Those are the BZ wheels on both ends. Now I no longer have that front pair and only use OE Fuchs 15x8 on the front, as they fit my car perfectly, with the spacers I've got, and are widely available. I have multiple sets of super nice ones. About to sell-off a pair or two.
mepstein
The nice thing about Fuchs are unless you spend a lot on restoration, you can get back what you paid, or more.
restore2seater
So the majority of combinations are 7 front and 8 rear for widths with either 15 or 16 width. Can someone elaborate on the reason for different widths front and back? Why not have the same width front and back to be able to rotate tires for better wear? Is it done for ease of turning, fitment issues or just because everyone else does it that way. confused24.gif
johnhora
Pat...

Short answer...
You're correct ...in a street driven car better to have same sizes so you can rotate for wear.
In a race car you want grip and wear is just what happens.

7x8...
Race:
More rubber on the ground better bite coming out of the corners with rear wheel drive.

Street:
Looks...the move from 15 to 16 = more/better tire choices


sixnotfour
some pics, 15x8 RSR weidman, I added a single piece form another Fuch, single seem, Now 15x9... 15x8 with inch addedd to inside.....
restore2seater
QUOTE(johnhora @ Feb 17 2018, 11:59 AM) *

Short answer...
You're correct ...in a street driven car better to have same sizes so you can rotate for wear.
In a race car you want grip and wear is just what happens.

7x8...
Race:
More rubber on the ground better bite coming out of the corners with rear wheel drive.

Street:
Looks...the move from 15 to 16 = more/better tire choices


Yea John I get having more tire width gets better traction for the rear. But unless there's some physical deterrent preventing wider widths on the front wouldn't most people get the same size front for better turning as well?

I remember a couple years back in IMSA, I believe it was P2, one of the teams experimented with the same width tires front and back. I'm guessing they were trying to determine if the change would effect drag enough for lap speeds as apposed to having fewer tire changes during stints. They gave it up after a year.

Just curious if everyone that have 7x8 tires are doing this for racing reasons or just because. Probably stepping on the OP reason for this thread but it just got me thinking about why so many use this setup.
johnhora
Pat...

Yes turn in is nice...

But for me the problem was straight away drag with larger front tires..

The most extensive testing I did was using Goodyear Sports Car Specials cantileavered slicks...tried the same sizes F/R and went back to staggered 7x8 FxR
lots and lots of testing and the numbers proved it...faster times with smaller tire up front.
heck I've even tapped up the hood seams to get better times biggrin.gif


The deal is a 914 will out perform most anything in its class in the corners...the beauty of the mid-engine....the straights were the problem sections..

John


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