oakdalecurtis
Mar 22 2018, 05:23 PM
Shaved off the warts. Also, I know it's up to me, but I'd still like your opinions. I added knock off centers to the Empi wheels instead of plain center caps. You like em, or no?
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twistedstang
Mar 22 2018, 05:26 PM
Looks great! Can't wait till mine are gone.
Andyrew
Mar 22 2018, 05:57 PM
Shaved warts look good, knock off centers Im not a fan of
nice progress!
Rand
Mar 22 2018, 06:02 PM
Love the clean look of the shaved warts! Nicely done.
I have no clue what you are thinking with the horrible fake knockoffs though.
They don't even come close to fitting with those wheels. Especially with all the lugs showing. It's like a booger I want to flick off.
Nacho
Mar 22 2018, 06:04 PM
JeffBowlsby
Mar 22 2018, 06:19 PM
The light are good and look right on a USA 914.
Sorry for the cold water bath but...removing them is a technical violation of USA vehicle laws. Now whether or not you would be cited is another matter that would depend on circumstances. Kind of like removing the emission equipment from a pre-'76 car.
The sidemarker lights are there for safety reasons. USA laws require the lights so that the turnsignals and running lights can be seen from another vehicle facing yours, approaching from the side. Thats why new cars have wrap around lights front and rear nowadays.
Your car, your choice, your risk. YMMV.
Costa05
Mar 22 2018, 06:25 PM
Mine were removed by PO at least 20 yrs ago. Looks great in my opinion. Just drive smart and everything should be fine.
oakdalecurtis
Mar 22 2018, 06:26 PM
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Mar 22 2018, 05:19 PM)
The light are good and look right on a USA 914.
Sorry for the cold water bath but...removing them is a technical violation of USA vehicle laws. Now whether or not you would be cited is another matter that would depend on circumstances. Kind of like removing the emission equipment from a pre-'76 car.
The sidemarker lights are there for safety reasons. USA laws require the lights so that the turnsignals and running lights can be seen from another vehicle facing yours, approaching from the side. Thats why new cars have wrap around lights front and rear nowadays.
Your car, your choice, your risk. YMMV.
I like living dangerously. No front license plate either!
JeffBowlsby
Mar 22 2018, 06:29 PM
Next your going to tell me that you run non-stock width tires!
Whats this world coming too?
Nice yellow and very clean too, BTW...
Chip
Mar 22 2018, 06:37 PM
QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Mar 22 2018, 04:23 PM)
Shaved off the warts. Also, I know it's up to me, but I'd still like your opinions. I added knock off centers to the Empi wheels instead of plain center caps. You like em, or no?
Click to view attachmentWhatza wart?
oakdalecurtis
Mar 22 2018, 06:44 PM
QUOTE(Chip @ Mar 22 2018, 05:37 PM)
QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Mar 22 2018, 04:23 PM)
Shaved off the warts. Also, I know it's up to me, but I'd still like your opinions. I added knock off centers to the Empi wheels instead of plain center caps. You like em, or no?
Click to view attachmentWhatza wart?
Look at my old avatar. Front fender sidelights.
Chip
Mar 22 2018, 06:44 PM
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Mar 22 2018, 05:19 PM)
The light are good and look right on a USA 914.
Sorry for the cold water bath but...removing them is a technical violation of USA vehicle laws. Now whether or not you would be cited is another matter that would depend on circumstances. Kind of like removing the emission equipment from a pre-'76 car.
The sidemarker lights are there for safety reasons. USA laws require the lights so that the turnsignals and running lights can be seen from another vehicle facing yours, approaching from the side. Thats why new cars have wrap around lights front and rear nowadays.
Your car, your choice, your risk. YMMV.
The proper comment.
Spoke
Mar 22 2018, 06:45 PM
Beautiful car. Looks good without the warts.
oakdalecurtis
Mar 22 2018, 06:48 PM
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Mar 22 2018, 05:29 PM)
Next your going to tell me that you run non-stock width tires!
Whats this world coming too?
Nice yellow and very clean too, BTW...
Ty Jeff. Nope, 185/65 R15 Michelins, hope I didn’t disappoint you!
Coondog
Mar 22 2018, 07:08 PM
Literati914
Mar 22 2018, 07:32 PM
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Mar 22 2018, 07:19 PM)
Sorry for the cold water bath but...removing them is a technical violation of USA vehicle laws.
The sidemarker lights are there for safety reasons. USA laws require the lights so that the turnsignals and running lights can be seen from another vehicle facing yours, approaching from the side.
This is true, when restoring my '71 Volvo 1800E I shaved the huge rectangular side markers and replaced them with tiny LED side markers instead of going completely without... think of the small ones behind the front wheels of a Ferrari 458. I also relocated them behind the front wheels too, made more since and looked better. I went White lens, orange LEDs. I'm generally against a whole lot of modernizing, but these are subtle and I like having the extra visibility. Will be doing the same to my 914.
Front yard mechanic
Mar 22 2018, 07:36 PM
Ansbacher
Mar 22 2018, 07:38 PM
The warts are one of my favorite features of a 914. They are bold and beautiful. Stop removing them!
Ansbacher
marksteinhilber
Mar 22 2018, 07:39 PM
C’mon, I love my car, warts and all! They are real 914 quirky, but I like em shaved too! But knock-offs, nooooooo! Get polished out 4 luv Fuchs, five lug Fuchs, or the real minilights, then you’re talkin!
oakdalecurtis
Mar 22 2018, 07:47 PM
QUOTE(marksteinhilber @ Mar 22 2018, 06:39 PM)
C’mon, I love my car, warts and all! They are real 914 quirky, but I like em shaved too! But knock-offs, nooooooo! Get polished out 4 luv Fuchs, five lug Fuchs, or the real minilights, then you’re talkin!
Ok Mark, I just put the word out in the parts forum to look for some 4 lug Fuchs. Wish me luck!
Tom_T
Mar 22 2018, 08:46 PM
The knock-off just don't work well with those Minilights/repros Curtis.
I Already weighed-in on your Fuchs 2L post, but those 8-spokers would look better with a grey or black flat top center cap which doesn't take over the look of the wheels, like the spinners do.
I'm also not a fan of shaving the warts - if for no other reason than visibility & safety at dusk/night/dawn with those sidemarkers. But it's your 914!
Cheers!
Tom
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burton73
Mar 22 2018, 08:52 PM
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I like living dangerously. No front license plate either!
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That is a good-looking 914 big bumper. Yellow and the stripe, Great contrast of yellow/black.
A little work on the wheels and you will have the nicest look short of Blue.
Bob B
shelby/914
Mar 22 2018, 09:18 PM
Not only did I take off the warts but the big rubber bumpers too and added Euro lights. Guess I'm really in trouble. Since we no longer have safety inspections in Colorado I'll probably get away with it. Air pump was removed by PO so I changed the heads to match. I'd post a pix if I was smart enough. Been having problems since switch to Mac.
Dan
Coondog
Mar 22 2018, 09:32 PM
Uncle Buck says no to Warts
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pete000
Mar 22 2018, 09:59 PM
If I was going to repaint I would for sure fill in the side markers, never liked them.
Larmo63
Mar 23 2018, 08:06 AM
I'm not a fan of the warts either, but I see both sides of the argument. I might shave mine when I re-paint my car.
As for the knock offs, I wouldn't, sometimes less is more.
Your car looks really nice and clean, Curtis!!!
7TPorsh
Mar 23 2018, 11:21 AM
Hasn't anyone done a "frenched" wart? Maybe a little smaller diameter sunken flush with the body...
aggiezig
Mar 23 2018, 11:36 AM
QUOTE(7TPorsh @ Mar 23 2018, 12:21 PM)
Hasn't anyone done a "frenched" wart? Maybe a little smaller diameter sunken flush with the body...
I think I've seen this somewhere. Maybe not truly frenched, but definitely replaced with a smaller / more appropriate looking marker.
I shaved my warts and my antenna hole. I'm also backdating my bumpers and running a non-stock 2056cc without fuel injection or emissions equipment. Let's just say I won't be winning any concours competitions.
Robert21
Mar 23 2018, 01:41 PM
Do what you want. There is no wrong thing to do. if it is what you are doing now , later you will change to some different /
sb914
Mar 23 2018, 04:23 PM
rgalla9146
Mar 23 2018, 04:38 PM
QUOTE(sb914 @ Mar 23 2018, 06:23 PM)
A bit OT...... This red car has two mods that I usually dislike, the body color rockers / valences and polished alloys......but it looks great and very appealing....maybe the missing warts makes the whole thing work so well.
Beautiful car !
windforfun
Mar 23 2018, 06:43 PM
KISS.
worn
Mar 23 2018, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Mar 22 2018, 03:23 PM)
Shaved off the warts. Also, I know it's up to me, but I'd still like your opinions. I added knock off centers to the Empi wheels instead of plain center caps. You like em, or no?
I like the look, but it is mostly that I like the car as a whole. For those who diss the knockoffs I only point out a James Bond movie to illustrate the advantage. They do extend I hope! The sidelights do add a safety factor. Really nice looking car.
oakdalecurtis
Mar 23 2018, 08:02 PM
QUOTE(worn @ Mar 23 2018, 06:36 PM)
QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Mar 22 2018, 03:23 PM)
Shaved off the warts. Also, I know it's up to me, but I'd still like your opinions. I added knock off centers to the Empi wheels instead of plain center caps. You like em, or no?
I like the look, but it is mostly that I like the car as a whole. For those who diss the knockoffs I only point out a James Bond movie to illustrate the advantage. They do extend I hope! The sidelights do add a safety factor. Really nice looking car.
But did you notice the machines guns
hidden behind the foglights?
RickS
Mar 23 2018, 10:02 PM
Shaved warts? Yes. Much cleaner look.
Knock offs? Two thumbs down. Don’t work with the wheels.
Wyvern
Mar 23 2018, 11:44 PM
I say NO to the knock offs .
I like the warts gone but "OK" with them .. your preference and a decision I won't need to make as I am not planning on doing a repaint.
I am intrigued with the option of the mentioned "smaller / flatter" lenses mentioned ... any info on what may work ?
My 914
Mar 24 2018, 03:19 AM
It does look very clean without the warts. Given the overall size of the 914 compared to newer cars, I do think you need to be more careful making turns and changing lanes.
Coondog
Mar 24 2018, 06:10 AM
QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Mar 22 2018, 05:19 PM)
The light are good and look right on a USA 914.
Sorry for the cold water bath but...removing them is a technical violation of USA vehicle laws. Now whether or not you would be cited is another matter that would depend on circumstances. Kind of like removing the emission equipment from a pre-'76 car.
The sidemarker lights are there for safety reasons. USA laws require the lights so that the turnsignals and running lights can be seen from another vehicle facing yours, approaching from the side. Thats why new cars have wrap around lights front and rear nowadays.
Your car, your choice, your risk. YMMV.
While stuck in L.A traffic today I remembered this thread and started looking at all the cars for any type of side reflectors or side lights. After looking at 1000 plus cars I saw very few with anything on the sides. As for wrap around lights, the 914 rear light has just as much of a side wrap or more then a lot of cars I looked at, and our front turn signals/runnng lights are even more pronounced then most cars.
Plus given the fact that 99% of cops wouldn’t no what a 914 is and 100% probably never even gave a 914 a hard look they wouldn’t even no if the car even came with them.
To me this is a non issue. As far as a front license plate, your call, I have been running without them since I was 16 in Calif and was never even questioned about it. Growing up in Orange, Calif I got my far share of tickets. My feeling is most cops appreciate a nice car and know a front license plate takes away from the look. Of course if your a dick to them, you deserve every technical violation in the book.
jmitro
Mar 24 2018, 07:34 AM
QUOTE(Coondog @ Mar 24 2018, 07:10 AM)
To me this is a non issue. As far as a front license plate, your call, I have been running without them since I was 16 in Calif and was never even questioned about it.
+1
Krieger
Mar 24 2018, 08:31 AM
I hated the look of the warts and have never regretted removing mine. If you were concerned for safety, some here have added a small rectangular amber light aft of the front wheels. Maybe somebody has a photo. I don't remember what car they are from. They look pretty good.
Rand
Mar 24 2018, 07:58 PM
The VW Jetta sidemarker lights behind the front tire is a cool update.
snakemain
Mar 24 2018, 08:05 PM
QUOTE(Rand @ Mar 24 2018, 07:58 PM)
The VW Jetta sidemarker lights behind the front tire is a cool update.
That's what I'd LOVE to do to mine.
Series9
Mar 24 2018, 08:38 PM
US DOT regulations were typically met with shitty responses from Germany. The crappy, out-of-place marker lights on the front fenders of 914s is a very good example. Remove at will, I say.
As for the knock offs, if you can see the lug nuts behind the "knock off device", then I consider it silly window dressing. Lug nuts and knock offs are mutually exclusive. A 914 isn't a British sports car and no Porsche, apart from some very rare early 356s (as an ever rarer option), ever had that method of wheel retention. (As far as I'm aware)
Chris914n6
Mar 24 2018, 08:48 PM
I think the turn signal does a good enough job as a side light.
For a front reflector, reflective yellow sign vinyl would work.
Wyvern
Mar 27 2018, 10:22 PM
Can't one of you super creative or resourceful folks find or come up with a low profile lens with an LED that fits the OEM housing ?
I am going to try to find something / make something.
If successful would it turn a Wart into a Mole or "Beauty Spot" ?
EdwardBlume
Mar 28 2018, 06:11 AM
Looks good Curtis. I deleted mine from Dad's car and regret it zero. While it makes the rare and hard to find Porsche bra irrelevant (don't PM me folks - we all have one in a box for sale), looks do matter.
The knock offs on empi mags are an interesting addition. Do you have problems in Oakdale with small kids or animals running next to the car?
(Thats how it was in Nipomo)
There was a kid with a 69 VW in the neighborhood with the same wheels who painted the spokes the same color as the body, chromed the ring to match the knock offs. Yours looks good as is, but his looked really good. His chrome yellow VW is one of my all time favorite cars.
Front yard mechanic
Mar 28 2018, 06:35 AM
QUOTE(snakemain @ Mar 24 2018, 06:05 PM)
QUOTE(Rand @ Mar 24 2018, 07:58 PM)
The VW Jetta sidemarker lights behind the front tire is a cool update.
That's what I'd LOVE to do to mine.
Want to try a pair I cut these out of a vw at pullandpay 5 bucks
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DRPHIL914
Mar 28 2018, 08:41 AM
QUOTE(Wyvern @ Mar 28 2018, 12:22 AM)
Can't one of you super creative or resourceful folks find or come up with a low profile lens with an LED that fits the OEM housing ?
I am going to try to find something / make something.
If successful would it turn a Wart into a Mole or "Beauty Spot" ?
I was thinking this as well. - low profile maybe flush or slight bubble, however we always talk about visibility , problem about being seen, its ok but I don't think its an "upgrade" in any way - besides that , any car show formal or informal you are no longer in "stock"class, but "Custom" - with that said do what you want, I think it looks fine, just saying - BTW love that color of yellow! - ( ironically I have just taken my BUB's off my 75 and they are getting the chrome treatment) -
Phil
dr914@autoatlanta.com
Mar 28 2018, 09:07 AM
call it a wart, a mole, I call it a beauty mark and I love our American beauties!
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mb911
Mar 28 2018, 09:45 AM
911 euro side marker would be cool.
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