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billh1963
Waiting for COA to verify One way or another. Things are promising....1974 2.0 that falls in all the right number ranges for a "Bumblebee" (VIN, Body number, Mfg date). Originally a black car and most paint is original. Has the right options (front and rear sway bar, fog lights, never had sail panel trim strip, etc.). Parents of the previous lady owner purchased the car in 1986 for her to drive in college. All records since their purchase.

Seller said car originally had yellow wheels and bumpers but her parents didn't like the wheel color and made the dealer change them out when they bought the car. Also had a minor front end collision in the late 1980's that damaged the spoiler and front bumper (I have the receipt for the repair).

Can't absolutely verify mileage since history from 1974 to 1986 is not known, However car was purchased with around 44k miles showing and now shows 57k.

Even if it's not a LE the car is still very tight and runs good. We'll see in a few weeks when COA comes back.

billh1963
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lostreasure
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Apr 1 2018, 03:13 AM) *

I know the car from South Carolina -Good luck
billh1963
The seller said someone from NJ had inquired about buying it....
Cairo94507
Nice find Bill. beerchug.gif
JFG
Can owners in the USA still obtain coa from your porsche dealers? I applied for one in Britain but was told they are no longer available. They only issue a certificate of production. Quite what the difference is i do not know but as i'm currently waiting for the cop to arrive i can't compare.
Unobtanium-inc
The COA has gotten a lot trickier. Porsche will no longer give you the original engine or gearbox number, you supply what you have, and they confirm if it is original or not and put Matching Numbers on the COA if it is.
The problem is unless you have Factory backdoor access, you can't know your original engine number, meaning you can never find it. Porsche says this is to cut down on fraud, and I can see that, but it's a shame because it does happen, finding your original motor.
DRPHIL914
nice find!, even if its not an LE, but if it is, you have a bit of work ahead cosmetically to return a few items back to what they should be- rocker panels, wheel color but none of it is a big deal - I think you should bring it to Okteenerfest this year!
billh1963
QUOTE(Philip W. @ Apr 2 2018, 10:47 AM) *

nice find!, even if its not an LE, but if it is, you have a bit of work ahead cosmetically to return a few items back to what they should be- rocker panels, wheel color but none of it is a big deal - I think you should bring it to Okteenerfest this year!


If it turns out to be a bumblee I'm not that far away from going back to the look.

I have a good painted front bumper...would need a good painted rear bumper.

(The chrome bumpers on the car are in excellent shape so they can go to my parts stash).

AA sells the repro can am spoiler. Finding a real one would prove to be very difficult.

Side stripes are easy enough to locate and that just leaves buying rockers and painting the wheels. Nothing a little time and money can't handle.... av-943.gif


If it's not an LE I'll paint the front and rear valences black and get black rockers...even easier!
DRPHIL914
you can probably pay for most of that stuff by selling the chrome bumpers.
DRPHIL914
sooo, any word?? 2 months I still don't have my COA and I called over a week ago to ask about it she said the lady that does that is in a meeting I will have her call you to let you know- never heard back from them - I am rethinking my PCA membership
billh1963
QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 2 2018, 09:07 AM) *

sooo, any word?? 2 months I still don't have my COA and I called over a week ago to ask about it she said the lady that does that is in a meeting I will have her call you to let you know- never heard back from them - I am rethinking my PCA membership



Not yet....although they charged my CC a couple weeks ago.

Car is still sitting on the trailer. Cranked it up last weekend and fired right up. After it warms up the idle gets ugly so I know I'll need to do something with vacuum lines (all original) and maybe have to look at some other FI components.

Until I get my COA it's sitting right where it is smile.gif

I've got too many other projects to worry about right now.
914_7T3
QUOTE(billh1963 @ May 2 2018, 07:20 AM) *

QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 2 2018, 09:07 AM) *

sooo, any word?? 2 months I still don't have my COA and I called over a week ago to ask about it she said the lady that does that is in a meeting I will have her call you to let you know- never heard back from them - I am rethinking my PCA membership



Not yet....although they charged my CC a couple weeks ago.

Car is still sitting on the trailer. Cranked it up last weekend and fired right up. After it warms up the idle gets ugly so I know I'll need to do something with vacuum lines (all original) and maybe have to look at some other FI components.

Until I get my COA it's sitting right where it is smile.gif

I've got too many other projects to worry about right now.


Once the order is placed for the COA, they will confirm or deny via telephone while the paperwork is being processed. Call Sara, she was able to do that for me without having to wait the 4-6 weeks for the actual Certificate. Good luck.


Sara Edie
Porsche Specialist, Porsche Contact Center
Porsche Cars North America, Inc.
One Porsche Drive
Atlanta, GA 30354-9817

Phone: 1-800 PORSCHE (1-800-767-7243)
Fax: (800) 322-2436
Email: coa@porsche.us



billh1963
QUOTE(914 7T3 @ May 2 2018, 11:34 AM) *

QUOTE(billh1963 @ May 2 2018, 07:20 AM) *

QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 2 2018, 09:07 AM) *

sooo, any word?? 2 months I still don't have my COA and I called over a week ago to ask about it she said the lady that does that is in a meeting I will have her call you to let you know- never heard back from them - I am rethinking my PCA membership



Not yet....although they charged my CC a couple weeks ago.

Car is still sitting on the trailer. Cranked it up last weekend and fired right up. After it warms up the idle gets ugly so I know I'll need to do something with vacuum lines (all original) and maybe have to look at some other FI components.

Until I get my COA it's sitting right where it is smile.gif

I've got too many other projects to worry about right now.


Once the order is placed for the COA, they will confirm or deny via telephone while the paperwork is being processed. Call Sara, she was able to do that for me without having to wait the 4-6 weeks for the actual Certificate. Good luck.


Sara Edie
Porsche Specialist, Porsche Contact Center
Porsche Cars North America, Inc.
One Porsche Drive
Atlanta, GA 30354-9817

Phone: 1-800 PORSCHE (1-800-767-7243)
Fax: (800) 322-2436
Email: coa@porsche.us


They wouldn't do it...I tried.

They called me to confirm the engine number.

While they had me on the phone I tried to get the paint code(s)...no dice.

It's okay...it will be like Christmas when it shows up lol-2.gif
DRPHIL914
overkill I know, but I sent a copy of the original window sticker and sales receipt for documentation of the Appearance group option package, special order paint code etc, and sent picture of the motor and transmission numbers,
that may not help from what I have heard based on other requests recently.

but they didn't even bother to call back, so I will just wait and see.
Unobtanium-inc
Before Porsche took the COA program back over about 8 years ago I had the lady who did it overnight them to me, those were the days.

Bureaucracy ruins everything.
DRPHIL914
Bill,
Mine came today so yours should be coming soon as well!!
billh1963

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mepstein
Good catch.
bbrock
Congrats! That has to feel good.

Also, it looks like PCNA has changed their COA to a PPS very recently. Here is the doc I received on March 23, notice anything different?

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billh1963
Not called COA any longer
JeffBowlsby
SCORE! Congrats. My hunch was right. smile.gif
Jonathan Livesay
QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 2 2018, 05:57 PM) *

Bill,
Mine came today so yours should be coming soon as well!!

I thought the model year assembly cut off was August of the preceding year? Your serial number falls in the middle of the range for the 1975 model, I don't see how it could have been built in September '75. Or is there something I'm missing?
billh1963
QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ May 7 2018, 05:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 2 2018, 05:57 PM) *

Bill,
Mine came today so yours should be coming soon as well!!

I thought the model year assembly cut off was August of the preceding year? Your serial number falls in the middle of the range for the 1975 model, I seee how it could have been built in September '75. Or is there something I'm missing?



A 1975 would have been built from around August 1974 through late spring/early summer 1975
Jonathan Livesay
QUOTE(billh1963 @ May 7 2018, 03:05 PM) *

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ May 7 2018, 05:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 2 2018, 05:57 PM) *

Bill,
Mine came today so yours should be coming soon as well!!

I thought the model year assembly cut off was August of the preceding year? Your serial number falls in the middle of the range for the 1975 model, I seee how it could have been built in September '75. Or is there something I'm missing?



A 1975 would have been built from around August 1974 through late spring/early summer 1975

Yes, that's what I said. I wonder what his door jam sticker says if it hasn't disappeared years ago.
DRPHIL914
referring to my car? i have the original window sticker and the sales invoice, vehicle was sold October 24, 1975. i can tell you regardless of their statement on my sheet that its build date was september, the VIN and the door tag are original and correct, and so are the chassis stamp and karmann tag. and the door jam sticker was in center console when I bought the car, was set aside to be replaced when we were done with body and repaint, but now I can't find it so its somewhere in my boxes I certainly hope it didn't disappear. Without it, I can't verify the build date?

i guess some input from others that are more knowledgeble on VIN and build dates etc may help shed some light on the perceived discrepancy.
billh1963
QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 7 2018, 11:06 PM) *

referring to my car? i have the original window sticker and the sales invoice, vehicle was sold October 24, 1975. i can tell you regardless of their statement on my sheet that its build date was september, the VIN and the door tag are original and correct, and so are the chassis stamp and karmann tag. and the door jam sticker is there too, no it didnt disappear.

i guess some input from others that are more knowledgeble on VIN and build dates etc may help shed some light on the perceived discrepancy.


Phil....isn't your build date 4/15/75?
EdwardBlume
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DRPHIL914
QUOTE(billh1963 @ May 8 2018, 06:24 AM) *

QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 7 2018, 11:06 PM) *

referring to my car? i have the original window sticker and the sales invoice, vehicle was sold October 24, 1975. i can tell you regardless of their statement on my sheet that its build date was september, the VIN and the door tag are original and correct, and so are the chassis stamp and karmann tag. and the door jam sticker is there too, no it didnt disappear.

i guess some input from others that are more knowledgeble on VIN and build dates etc may help shed some light on the perceived discrepancy.


Phil....isn't your build date 4/15/75?


the "not really a COA anymore" report puts a 09/15/1975 production completion date down, so I need to get a picture of the door jam sticker from mike if its in the glove box, I have one somewhere but cant find it. not sure if the sticker was removed by p.o. before they painted car, but the sticker was loose somewhere in the car when I got it , but with cleaning everything out to do the body and paint i'm not sure where it was put now. (mike is the body and paint guy helping to restore the car) car was previously painted but not the door jams, original pain in the front by the karmann badge it was not painted over or replaced- the trunks were not painted either when the PO did a paint job back 20 years ago+.

- will report back when I get that from him
DRPHIL914
sorry for the semi-hijack Bill,
- called the Mike and he sent me pics of the karmann tag and front trunk tag but he did not see the door jam tag in the car and i didnt find it in my center console box or the manual - hope it turns up for now its "misplaced" - makes me kind of sick to know it was there nad had been for past 9 years and i wasnt more careful stripping car down last fall- or i was and put it somewhere safe and dont remember where, ugh makes me sick! here is tag in front trunk, and the Karmann tag from front door jam
billh1963
Jeff...when are you going to add mine to the registry? smile.gif
JeffBowlsby
Hi Bill, I'm ready to post the updated registry. Please PM me your last name and city.
dr914@autoatlanta.com
Congratulations! Now to return it to its former glory!




QUOTE(billh1963 @ Apr 1 2018, 04:02 AM) *

Waiting for COA to verify One way or another. Things are promising....1974 2.0 that falls in all the right number ranges for a "Bumblebee" (VIN, Body number, Mfg date). Originally a black car and most paint is original. Has the right options (front and rear sway bar, fog lights, never had sail panel trim strip, etc.). Parents of the previous lady owner purchased the car in 1986 for her to drive in college. All records since their purchase.

Seller said car originally had yellow wheels and bumpers but her parents didn't like the wheel color and made the dealer change them out when they bought the car. Also had a minor front end collision in the late 1980's that damaged the spoiler and front bumper (I have the receipt for the repair).

Can't absolutely verify mileage since history from 1974 to 1986 is not known, However car was purchased with around 44k miles showing and now shows 57k.

Even if it's not a LE the car is still very tight and runs good. We'll see in a few weeks when COA comes back.
brcacti
Nothing a little time and money can't handle

Or no time and LOTS of money
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