ChrisFoley
Oct 13 2018, 01:20 PM
There's a trick to setting up the anti-sway bar so there's no binding. Doing this will go a long way to preventing stress cracks in the future.
Bolt up both bushing brackets and slide the bar in until it nearly touches the other side. Determine which way it needs to be moved to line up perfectly. Pull the bar back out most of the way and lean on it in the direction needed to bend the chassis so next time you slide it in it will go right into the other bushing. It may take 2 or 3 tries to line it up just right. Then follow the same procedure from the other side of the car.
After doing this it should be possible to rotate the bar by hand after it's fully inserted - without the arms attached.
Put some bearing grease on both bushings when you're ready to permanently install the bar.
TravisNeff
Oct 13 2018, 01:22 PM
That'll work, I am super excited about this bar.
Thanks Chris, I just have it finger tight and it seems just about right - I will heed your advice when I bolt her down.
TravisNeff
Oct 13 2018, 08:00 PM
Firewall forward mount for the suspension brace.
TravisNeff
Oct 13 2018, 09:00 PM
I made a plate that wraps around the front of the suspension console and glued in the bracket.
mb911
Oct 14 2018, 06:17 AM
Travis your welds are really shaping up.. Good job.
TravisNeff
Oct 14 2018, 01:18 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence Ben. It's in, had a couple blown holes that I need to fix.
TravisNeff
Oct 14 2018, 07:26 PM
Moving onto the inside. The car was crashed at some point and the hump below the seat belt pocket was crushed up pretty good. Hardly noticeable when the relay board was in place. I was able to beat it mostly back into shape, but have a crack in the metal. This is going to be a bit tricky for me to make a patch piece.
TravisNeff
Oct 14 2018, 08:16 PM
Starting of the patch piece.
bbrock
Oct 14 2018, 08:25 PM
That's an impressive start! You are doing better than me. I had to patch the little bulge where the hood release pull attaches which is a similar PITA dome. I wound up having to make a relief cut to pull the metal around to form the dome. Nice work on yours!
TravisNeff
Oct 14 2018, 09:49 PM
Thanks Brent, got lucky with this part. A little closer now.
TravisNeff
Oct 16 2018, 01:51 PM
I am going to make another piece for the firewall. I have the basic shape down, but when I looked at the passenger side I see that it should be a little more angular. If that doesn't work I will continue on with the piece I have.
In the meantime i took out the rest of my hood and decklid hinges out for Oscar's spa treatment. And.. I think i need another hinge bracket.
TravisNeff
Oct 16 2018, 07:16 PM
This one turned out a whole lot betta!
bbrock
Oct 16 2018, 07:37 PM
TravisNeff
Oct 16 2018, 08:18 PM
Trim to fit and bend a little more.
mepstein
Oct 16 2018, 08:20 PM
QUOTE(TravisNeff @ Oct 16 2018, 10:18 PM)
Trim to fit and bend a little more.
Nice fab work
TravisNeff
Oct 17 2018, 01:31 PM
Thanks Mark, it worked out better than i thought it would.
It's in, needs a couple more welds here and there, and then clean up on the back side.
TravisNeff
Oct 17 2018, 10:48 PM
I got a care package from Ben today. Turns out i had a tire mount from my last RD purchase. Looks like it will line up pretty good, tire will be lifted about an inch off the floor and still be below the bulkhead.
TravisNeff
Oct 20 2018, 12:23 PM
I am not sure why I was so nervous to do this. Maybe because there is nothing wrong with my floor and I may end up having some sort of cobblefest getting the new louvered floor in?
Gloves, check
Safety glasses, check
Cutoff wheel, check
Hot cup of coffee, check
Pack of smokes, check
Headphones and some Megadeth, check
two pair of undies, check
Lessgo!
TravisNeff
Oct 20 2018, 02:11 PM
Fitting and cutting
ChrisFoley
Oct 20 2018, 02:19 PM
piece-a-cake
TravisNeff
Oct 20 2018, 02:39 PM
Doesn't taste like cake
. Trying to figure out what to do with the channels to transition to the louvered floor piece. A couple of cuts along the top of the channel and beat the fugger flat.
TravisNeff
Oct 21 2018, 02:59 PM
Closer, ran out of gas. I am only grinding what you will see after the cooler cover is on.
TravisNeff
Oct 27 2018, 01:47 PM
It is in. There's a couple little pinholes to go and some final grinding. I will wait until I am closer to coating to deal with that. It oilcan's pretty good, I will need to get a shrinking disk and learn how to use it.
914forme
Oct 27 2018, 01:58 PM
Pretty easy in the basic idea and form.
Disc on metal, heats the high spots. Quench with a mist of water to cool the spots and shrink the metal.
Any form of high heat will work then quenched effectively so a touch, a spot gun, even adding a few hits of a Mig bead will have the same effect.
Welding causes localized shrinking thus the reason some people use a technique called hammer welding. And why you try to minimize the heat build up in the panel.
TravisNeff
Oct 27 2018, 03:27 PM
Thanks Stephen. I have an overwhelming urge to overdo things - I have some fear I will go nuts and end up with one of those scale model 914's lol.
Alright, cut along the dotted line..
TravisNeff
Oct 27 2018, 05:14 PM
Air cooler duct brackets
ChrisFoley
Oct 28 2018, 07:24 AM
A little hammer & dolly stretching of the ground down perimeter welds will go a long way to reducing the oilcan effect. Now that you have a hole in the front panel it might be possible to reach most areas, although it will be more than a little uncomfortable.
TravisNeff
Oct 28 2018, 08:15 AM
I will give that a shot Chris. The car is high enough off the ground it shouldn't be too bad getting in from the front hole.
Welding the tabs in seems to have stiffened the floor a little bit. I quenched a couple of the tabs after welding with a damp microfiber rag, you can see that it was a red one LOL.
914forme
Oct 28 2018, 08:18 AM
nice job on the tabs for the hold downs I like it.
jmitro
Oct 28 2018, 08:30 AM
nice work
mb911
Oct 28 2018, 09:46 AM
Travis looks great.. Good job.
bbrock
Oct 28 2018, 12:06 PM
I have to admit, after replacing a rusting frunk pan, it makes me cringe to see a perfectly good trunk cut open, but you did this one proud.
As for using a shrinking disc, a monkey can do it. I'm proof of that!
TravisNeff
Oct 29 2018, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the kind words and advice everyone, I appreciate it.
I ordered a shrinking disk and it should get here by the weekend. In the meantime I took Chris' advice and I hammered and dollied the perimeter weld lines. Amazing that you relieve a little of tension and the floor starts to firm up. I ended up with a few more waves than when I started. I am not worried and believe that I can get it all straight in the end.
I also welded in a cross brace and a 16g plate underneath. I was able to save my tow hook and will weld that on the bottom of the floor. There is no interference with the lower duct and it is all hidden away.
TravisNeff
Nov 1 2018, 10:06 PM
I ventured into the unknown. Not many people share pics of the frame rail penetration from all angles. I started with 2 1.5" holes stacked. Turns out where I cut on the outside was close, but didn't match the inside. Also I did not cut far forward enough to clear the J tube.
Time to make lemonade. I ground down the flange on the front of the J Tube. Then enlarged the holes a little bit, and then a bit more. I will have to patch where I did my exploration cuts.
I made a rectangular duct and had the idea that I could build in a splash shield along the front. Both -12 hoses fit, fittings passing through will be tight, but not impossible
TravisNeff
Nov 2 2018, 03:54 PM
I think I am turning into one of them tweakers.
914forme
Nov 3 2018, 07:35 AM
Welcome to the dark side of this hobby.
You by no means have it as bad as some of us. Your new in this journey and well their are lots of us here to help you transgress into a make 3 times sort of guy, and never be quite satisfied with the end result.
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I will give you a hint here! Make it once, get it on the car, move on to the next thing. There is always time to go back and redo it. Or you might not have to
because the joy of driving might just replace the joy of perfections.
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It will never be perfect, it will never meet your own standards, it will never meet the standards of the Instagram trolls who see a perfect Weave TIG weld in Titanium and wonder why they can't do that with a MIG, when they have only welded for 2 weeks tops in total pull the trigger time.
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I want to say thank you for posting the details, the good and the bad, being willing to put it out there. As of today I will not get any 914 work done. So I am living via build threads like these. Thank you for putting it out here, thank you for taking the risk and asking the questions. Thank you for allowing us to be part of your journey. Enjoy the ride.
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I do have a bit of fabrication and welding in my plans for today. But that involves putting a new discharge shoot on the 72" zero turn that I am re-powering also. Yes I do engine swaps on my power equipment also. I got it bad, maybe I need to bolt something on one of my 914s.......
mb911
Nov 3 2018, 08:15 AM
QUOTE(914forme @ Nov 3 2018, 05:35 AM)
Welcome to the dark side of this hobby.
You by no means have it as bad as some of us. Your new in this journey and well their are lots of us here to help you transgress into a make 3 times sort of guy, and never be quite satisfied with the end result.
.
.
.
.
.
.
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.
.
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I will give you a hint here! Make it once, get it on the car, move on to the next thing. There is always time to go back and redo it. Or you might not have to
because the joy of driving might just replace the joy of perfections.
.
.
.
It will never be perfect, it will never meet your own standards, it will never meet the standards of the Instagram trolls who see a perfect Weave TIG weld in Titanium and wonder why they can't do that with a MIG, when they have only welded for 2 weeks tops in total pull the trigger time.
.
.
.
.
I want to say thank you for posting the details, the good and the bad, being willing to put it out there. As of today I will not get any 914 work done. So I am living via build threads like these. Thank you for putting it out here, thank you for taking the risk and asking the questions. Thank you for allowing us to be part of your journey. Enjoy the ride.
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.
.
.
.
I do have a bit of fabrication and welding in my plans for today. But that involves putting a new discharge shoot on the 72" zero turn that I am re-powering also. Yes I do engine swaps on my power equipment also. I got it bad, maybe I need to bolt something on one of my 914s.......
And yes Stephen bolt something on the 914..
TravisNeff
Nov 3 2018, 02:33 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Stephen. The further along I go, I keep repeating myself "nothing is perfect" and keep the momentum going.
Patched in the extra cutout. A 3" piece of PVC pipe I had laying around is just about right for replicating the bent around the corner of the tub. Had to trim the patch piece to fit the rectangular tube.
Cleaned up the welds on my tweaker tube and its about ready to be glued in. Amazing that this started out a flat piece of sheet metal.
TravisNeff
Nov 3 2018, 05:15 PM
Lets see if the lines fit. I first cut the fuel evap holes into a big oval, that seemed to work ok. The turn after the first sill support to penetrate the cabin didn't make me feel all squiggly inside, so I cut the support out. It had some rust going on anyways, so I shed no tears.
bbrock
Nov 3 2018, 05:26 PM
You HAVE to be happy with that!
TravisNeff
Nov 3 2018, 05:43 PM
Yes I am very happy, its the coolest goddamn thing I have done so far.
live free & drive
Nov 3 2018, 06:08 PM
You might try some of these PEX metal 90deg bend supports they will keep your hose from flattening and losing sectional area:
https://www.pexsuperstore.com/pex-accessori...ort-elbows.htmlThey also come in 5/8"
a 1" will take 1.5 OD tubing - 3/4" takes 1"OD tubing etc. They can be put on and taken off in situ.
Several companies make them the Uponor brand is probably best; below is a 3/4" support, they lock on with friction:
Click to view attachment
sixnotfour
Nov 3 2018, 10:32 PM
914forme
Nov 4 2018, 08:44 AM
Okay learned something new today, Never thought that SS line would collapse in a tight bend. I knew they had a recommended bend radius.
Filled away
TravisNeff
Nov 4 2018, 10:48 AM
I am not sure what you guys are saying.
One post is saying I should look at external strain relief to make that 90 degree bend.
The next post I think is being stated that an internal wire strain relief is what you want, rather than external. But not specifically that I need any strain relief at all (for either post).
Minimum bend radius for -12 standard braided hose is 4.5 inches. What the hell does that mean? I have no clue so I looked it up.
=90/360*2*3.14*4.5 Which comes out to 7.065 inches of length required to make a 90 degree bend. I am not sure if this is right or not.
TravisNeff
Nov 4 2018, 11:02 AM
Attempting to measure my overall length of the bend.
sixnotfour
Nov 4 2018, 11:27 AM
I am implying its the rubber that will collapse, that is why you support from the inside ... you will probably be fine..but cheap insurance...
I know alot of peeps have never had a problem... esp with new line and its basically a push system..no sucking
made you
7.0675
TravisNeff
Nov 4 2018, 11:32 AM
I agree that would be cheap insurance. I just don't know how I would fish that wire down 3-4 feet of hose, that bend is right in the middle of the run. You monkeys had me up worrying about it all night and first thing this morning
I then realized that maybe I should try and find out if I need it at all.
sixnotfour
Nov 4 2018, 11:38 AM
bbrock
Nov 4 2018, 11:42 AM
QUOTE(TravisNeff @ Nov 4 2018, 11:32 AM)
I agree that would be cheap insurance. I just don't know how I would fish that wire down 3-4 feet of hose, that bend is right in the middle of the run. You monkeys had me up worrying about it all night and first thing this morning
I then realized that maybe I should try and find out if I need it at all.
I'm a little confused about why it has to be an internal spring. In order to collapse, the cross section of the hose has to oval. I would think a strong spring tightly fitting the outside diameter of the hose should keep the cross section of the bend round and free flowing just as well, maybe even better since there is nothing inside restricting flow. I've seen that approach used in other applications. A quick Google turned up these:
https://www.new-line.com/clamps/hose-wrap-s...tainless-spring Might be an alternative?
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