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JeffBowlsby
Seller will not disclose the VIN and has no COA. Assuming this is an authentic LE, care to speculate on what this will go for?

Is this 914 owned by someone here?

We saw a similar condition Bumblebee go surprisingly big last year

I won't post my guess to not influence your guesses.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Porsche-914/2...LIAAOSwyedbFHsq
914Sixer
Fool born every minute with $$$$ in his eyes. $1k would be too much.
ConeDodger
OMG! blink.gif was that pulled out of a lake?
Ed_Turbo
I saw that on ebay as I get updates all the time on Porsche parts. Cannot open the deck lid to see the numbers.


I will pass bro...


-Big Ed





billh1963
I'm sure it's this one:

Flipper ad


Several people had asked for the VIN when it was originally listed on 914World and it was never provided.......

Original sale ad
toolguy
IMHO, It's not so much he doesn't want to provide the VIN now so it can be authenticated, but more logically because once that hulk has an identity it will be branded for what it is when it resurfaces later on having been disguised/ restored as an 'original' car. . . From the looks of the car, the only thing valuable or usable is the VIN. .

JeffBowlsby
A problem for a buyer, when the VIN or COA is not available or withheld is that they cannot verify authenticity. Dood is characterizing this car FS as an LE, yet they can be faked. All the 'authenticating' qualities the seller mentions can be faked, even when the car is within the known VIN range of LE cars. I have records of several L80E cars in the VIN range that are not LEs. Without the COA one cannot be certain, and if its not real then its deceptive and misrepresented and could subject the seller to legal action. No problem with a tribute car as long as its disclosed as such. Here is one example of a fake I have others:
914OUTLAW
QUOTE(Ed_Turbo @ Jun 7 2018, 11:59 PM) *

I saw that on ebay as I get updates all the time on Porsche parts. Cannot open the deck lid to see the numbers.


I will pass bro...


-Big Ed


Funny thing is that the engine lid was open in the original ad.
914OUTLAW
QUOTE(914OUTLAW @ Jun 8 2018, 11:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Ed_Turbo @ Jun 7 2018, 11:59 PM) *

I saw that on ebay as I get updates all the time on Porsche parts. Cannot open the deck lid to see the numbers.


I will pass bro...


-Big Ed


Funny thing is that the engine lid was open in the original ad.


http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...t&id=646016
cgnj
I wish I hadn't clicked.Somerset County about 50 miles away . Going to try to get eyeballs on it. Hope my tetanus shot is up to date. Somerset County
worn
Well “all original sway bars, front and back” persudes me that the seller knows Porsche 914s backwards and forwards. wacko.gif
Dave_Darling
What do you mean? The LEs did have both front and rear sway bars...

--DD
rgalla9146
QUOTE(cgnj @ Jun 8 2018, 11:13 PM) *

I wish I hadn't clicked.Somerset County about 50 miles away . Going to try to get eyeballs on it. Hope my tetanus shot is up to date. Somerset County



Good Luck with seeing the car.
If the sellers name is George AKA 'lost treasure' count your fingers after
he shakes your hand.
Many reports of very sketchy behavior here and on Ebay
He wouldn't let me see a 914 6 he had listed on Ebay
Other people here have had similar experiences.
cgnj
So far no response. I don't get it. Two types of people look at this car.

The clueless, and someone who needs to if it is a real Can-Am car and if there is enough left to save.

Maybe trying to avoid the latter.

IronHillRestorations
$1500

All the signs of a raw deal are there. Not enough proof and not enough car there. The claims of "indicators" should be backed up with a COA. Seller doesn't even attempt to prove it's got a 2.0 engine. Run away, run away!
burton73
QUOTE(Perry Kiehl @ Jun 9 2018, 04:43 PM) *

$1500

All the signs of a raw deal are there. Not enough proof and not enough car there. The claims of "indicators" should be backed up with a COA. Seller doesn't even attempt to prove it's got a 2.0 engine. Run away, run away!



I asked him for the VIN. I told him I would not pay more in less he gave it. No reply. @ days.

I think it is a scam. In Less he proves it.

Bob B
Front yard mechanic
Why does he have to prove anything ? You bid the highest amount and the car is yours rust and all
billh1963
QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Jun 9 2018, 09:22 PM) *

Why does he have to prove anything ? You bid the highest amount and the car is yours rust and all


Because it's being sold as an LE
Unobtanium-inc
With a car like this, you win it, go look at it, if you don't like it, walk. If you aren't able to pick it up yourself, don't bid on it.

When I bought my 914-6 the seller on ebay knew nothing about it, probably got it for free. I did my due diligence, called and asked questions, he lied. I went to pick up the car, he had taken pictures backed up to a fence, so you couldn't see the back of the car. I had asked about rust that wasn't in the pictures, he said you could see it in the pictures. Well, when I went to pick up the car the whole back end was rotten off, tail lights were literally floating. But it was still a matching numbers 6 for $3500, so I bought it, but I could have walked if I couldn't stomach the car.

This is how deep I had to cut back to get to good metal on the rear end, I've never seen one so rusty.
stoneman18969
The car is an LE .I sold it to him. My wife said he's odd and a creepster.
JeffBowlsby
Post the VIN or the COA to prove it.
mepstein
I wouldn’t take it if it was free. It would cost as much to restore this chassis as it would to just buy a complete LE.
Ed_Turbo
30 bids @ $760

Which member here can admit they are bidding this? rolleyes.gif


This could be used as a sweet grill and ice chest though jsharp.gif

Not for $760 unless you like to throw money away.




-Ed
billh1963
Currently at $1600.....
IronHillRestorations
My gut says "shill bid...shill bid...shill bid"
jdamiano
1800.
Porschef
No longer available.

Adios, amigo bs.gif
mepstein
QUOTE(Porschef @ Jun 13 2018, 08:54 PM) *

No longer available.

Adios, amigo bs.gif

Shill bidder was probably the highest offer.
porschetub
QUOTE(Perry Kiehl @ Jun 13 2018, 01:01 PM) *

My gut says "shill bid...shill bid...shill bid"

agree.gif someone that couldn't be bothered to provide important details would most likely do that and for f#cks sake give it a clean,can't tell the dirt for the rust.....or is it all just rust sad.gif
stoneman18969
She was bad,yellow one was worse Click to view attachment
worn
QUOTE(stoneman18969 @ Jun 14 2018, 03:29 PM) *

She was bad,yellow one was worse Click to view attachment

Kinda reminds me of a Charlie Brown Christmas. The difference between them and ours is primarily caring about it. Even if I knew it was hopeless I wouldn’t want it to get worse. Maybe that is the emotion that sells welders.
billh1963
Looks like LT did take the Fuchs off the car before putting on ebay.

We'll see an ad soon, "original owner selling an ultra rare set of 4 lug Fuchs with excellent period correct tires for $2000"....
stoneman18969
He already sold the wheels.
I still have the vin,should I post or just try to follow it.
Look at the pic the engine hood is open.don,t worry if there was something good in there I would have it.

billh1963
QUOTE(stoneman18969 @ Jun 15 2018, 01:47 PM) *

He already sold the wheels.
I still have the vin,should I post or just try to follow it.
Look at the pic the engine hood is open.don,t worry if there was something good in there I would have it.



Just post the VIN here.

Jeff may want to record it for his LE registry
majkos1
$1600!?
Does that mean my Kar-B-Q is $800?
Click to view attachment
Click to view attachment
rgalla9146

Seller known on this site as 'losttreasure' ?
Can anyone confirm ?
JeffBowlsby
QUOTE(stoneman18969 @ Jun 15 2018, 10:47 AM) *

He already sold the wheels.
I still have the vin,should I post or just try to follow it.
Look at the pic the engine hood is open.don,t worry if there was something good in there I would have it.


Would really like to know the VIN...please post it or PM me.

Thanks.
jdamiano
If you’re sad you missed it it’s back on EBay.
JeffBowlsby
"V.I.N. 47429154XX It is exactly in line with 914LE registry there is absolutely no question whether this is real! I have had 3 other LE's and it is easy to tell the difference if you know the differences-Again rusty rusty! but it does have original paint"

I know you are reading this Mikliam, but you don't post these questions on ebay just your opinions, so I will post this here. The ONLY means to authenticate an LE is with a COA, because anything on a 914 LE can be faked. Posting a portion of the VIN does not validate this car, as there are a number of Light Ivory 74 2.0L (and L041 cars) in the known VIN range, that are not authentic LE's. The known LE tribute car VINs are also posted on the LE Registry.

With the COA, its authentic - you do not have a COA. With the full VIN, PCNA can be contacted to verify its authenticity as proof. No one besides PCNA can authenticate it, and only PCNA issues the COA, everything else is just an opinion.
TonyA
I sent a contact seller request to e bay....lets see if he answers.. not interested at this time but I will look at it for you guys and I will get the vin number.
If its lost treasure..... as Tony Suprano or Goodfelows would say "forget a bout it"
billh1963
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jun 15 2018, 09:43 PM) *

Seller known on this site as 'losttreasure' ?
Can anyone confirm ?


LT was the flipper who bought the car originally. I don't know if he sold the car to someone else or if he's the one selling on ebay.
billh1963
QUOTE(jdamiano @ Jun 25 2018, 10:16 AM) *

If you’re sad you missed it it’s back on EBay.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-Porsche-914/2...LIAAOSwyedbFHsq
rgalla9146
QUOTE(billh1963 @ Jun 25 2018, 02:45 PM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jun 15 2018, 09:43 PM) *

Seller known on this site as 'losttreasure' ?
Can anyone confirm ?


LT was the flipper who bought the car originally. I don't know if he sold the car to someone else or if he's the one selling on ebay.


The guy selling it on Ebay now WAS known a 'lostreasure' both here on 914 World
AND on Ebay
He provides practically no information, answers practically no questions and probably
waits for the first dummy to pay without seeing or verifying anything.
mikaliam in Martinsville and lostreasure in Bridgewater ? ......those locations are essentially the same place.
The best part is his last name begins with Shil ....
His listings have raised questions and been discussed here before.
stoneman18969
I didn't post this xxxxxxxx26
SirAndy
QUOTE(stoneman18969 @ Jun 26 2018, 12:17 PM) *
I didn't post this xxxxxxxx26

And i didn't put these two together ...

47429154XX
xxxxxxxx26

474.29.15426

biggrin.gif
ConeDodger
Other than recording the fate of what might have been an LE, can we agree that there is almost no value in this car. I would guess perhaps two dozen restorers in the country have the talent to reverse this neglect and all of them would require a customer with deep pockets and complete lack of common sense. This is a 6 figure restoration. LE’s haven’t gotten there yet.
Lots of false claims in the eBay ad too. mad.gif
JeffBowlsby
What keeps it interesting is exemplified by this car. VIN 14557. Real BB.

Non-runner, non-original engine, salvage title. Flipper sold it on ebay for $6400.

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