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A lot of great suggestions and if So Cal is indeed in the rotation, you pretty much can't go wrong from Central coast (SLO, Paso, Solvang, & Santa Barbara) down to Malibu (PCH along the coast & Canyons around Mulholland ) as well as the deserted canyon roads that run parallel to the 5FWY from the Grapevine (Bouquet & Spunky Canyons).

You also have Angeles Crest from La Canada to Wrightwood over to Arrowhead or Big Bear and down to Temecula (Mt. Palomar). You could actually do it all.

If there is an organizer that comes forward @Jim_Hoyland @76-914 @ValcoOscar , I would be happy to step up to co-organize by submitting some awesome routes for consideration.

Let me know

We already have big plans for 2020, call it what you want but should be a good event for the 50th.

A hiatus would interfere with the plans I have made for WCR 2019, which are to go to WCR 2019 with a 914 of my own.

I don't think a hiatus is necessary.
If the event is planned well and I expect it to be, people will come.

I have a limited range of miles I can afford to go for one of these events.
I only get so much time off and with grand kids, kids and my wife all having different levels of interest in 914s. Not having WCR 2019 is not going to make it more likely I'll attend a bigger event in 2020.

I am likely to go a little farther for a special event in 2020 but it won't have anything to do with 2019.
It will depend on 2020 and the event.

Jim

I think you guys misunderstood me.

I was thinking of combining all the events into one for 2020, not 2019.

Tentatively Don-6 wants to organize a border to border run, or at least a moving WCR for 2020 to allow more folks to participate. We were looking at making a special Tran border badge or something like that. Not having a 2019 WCR really makes no sense. If you don;t want to come to build a bigger budget for 2020 I get it but worst case we have Rob in back up for Reno / Tahoe. area. It's beautiful country. We just want to give the SoCal guys a chance to put something together. In my opinion it's time to go back down that way, but we need someone to step up. That's why I keep bumping the thread.

Thank you!

@conedodger - How much lead-time do we need to get things reserved up in South Lake? If we don't get a SoCal member to chime in, then I don't want Tahoe to no longer be an option because we didn't act soon enough.

SoCal had indicated they wanted 2020 because of the significance. That might have been thrown into question with a push for a National event in 2020. Maybe they'll pipe in here. Otherwise, I've done these 3-4 times so I can throw it together pretty quick.

Much lead-time do you need to secure a hotel with a big 'ol parking lot?

Thanks Rob!

Late October?

Cool, so maybe that should be the go-date for Tahoe if the SoCal crew doesn't come through.

Problem is at that point you need a very good idea as to attendance. One could say 50 rooms and then have 200 people sign up and be screwed. Or one could say 100 rooms and only have 30 people sign up.

Perhaps we should push a poll with multiple questions for possible locations and choose a date now? Date and location make the biggest difference, the rest is price shopping for a hotel. Tahoe is easy as its a known location with lots of options, but if its another location IE socal then its more difficult and someone needs to start making plans now.

At this point if its Tahoe then Rob is going to need as much time planning it out as possible and not just location...

The only person so far who has stepped up to build 2019 WCR is Rob. 2020 is being discussed with many people.



I vote Tahoe for 2019. Shall we get a vote going?

I know. I want to, but this year I can’t. Next year. I hope.

Super In Law and would be in for Tahoe.

Sounds good. SoCal is burned up in some of the nice spots anyway. I'm up for a good drive.

Actually, we have been able to negotiate (with enough notice) the room block of 20 -25 rooms. When we did WCR this last year, they sold out and we couldn't get more at the same price. The cancellation point was 72 hours which is their standard. We can get more rooms if people step up early. So pretty much the burden is on the attendees to use the negotiated rate for the committed number of rooms. We were to have the rooms released if we got to a week before so we were not out the money.

So if the attendees step up there is no lodging problem, this only happens if people drag their feet. Some had to go to other hotels, but it did work out. The key is to start far enough out. If we got to November and there were no takers to organize this I'd think Reno i/ Tahoe is the best option.

If someone wants to step up, there are a few of us that would help with advice, and some of the behind the scenes stuff. The position is to select and finalize the date based upon the events planned and try to maximize attendance which could be done via a vote here, You get to pick the dates you are available, but if you have a event that requires warmer weather may be best later (we did early June this year).

I would highly encourage someone who has a significant other that is a planner to look at this. My wife was originally supposed to be helping, but my daughter in law stepped in to really help out. You don't have to do it all yourself, just be able to ask for some help where needed.

-Mark

What we have discovered at Tahoe and this may come as a shock, if you go to the events person and ask for a price for a block of rooms, they bend you over and don't use lube. People were able to actually get much lower pricing just using Hotels.Com. Biggest problem, we can have a registration count in the 60's and people don't stay at the hotel we made the arrangements at. 2010 Tahoe, Eric Shea stayed at the Marriot Timeshare down the block. He had the time share days so why stay at the hotel?

Both time we did Tahoe, we told them we were coming and got accommodations for the cars. 2010 we were given a parking area behind the hotel and it was certainly large enough. The second Tahoe event, we were on top of the parking ramp. Generally speaking, the dates we choose fall during "mud season" which is basically a throw-away for the resorts. Most have closed ski runs, too soon to mountain bike because of the muddy trails, water sports are a little on the cold side. Speaking of which, I discovered that we have a member who between him and his daughters, Captains excursion boats. I'm looking in to what it would take to get us out on the lake for a few hours.

A previous event, McMark got a bill for $5K after the event because we "failed to perform." ie: we didn't rent enough rooms. End result of that, we don't sign nothing. If they want to agree to a number of rooms without a performance contract, great. Mark W. has done that in Oregon.

If someone else steps up, and wants to do it elsewhere, I am very ok with that. But Halloween night, that's all gone. We WILL be at Tahoe.

See my previous post on this thread. I threw my hat in the ring for the routing here in SoCal, but need some co-organizers to step up. I also volunteer with PCA and have put together and led on several drives. Doesn't' matter if you are from NorCal or SoCal to help out with some of the other elements.

Never been on a WCR so can't say what is involved with respect to restaurants, hotels & other activities.

If it ends up being Tahoe, that's cool too!

Santa Cruz, Ca. would be an excellent place for the WCR 2019. Amazing roads, views and food. Plenty of things to do that are auto related or not.

I would love-love-love for it to go to SoCal. Do you know MikeD? Leaman? They have experience.

Everyone knows @Mike D but not sure they're going to want to deal with two WCRs in a row. I'll talk to some of the guys at the 914 Cone Zone on Saturday and see what the consensus is.

Well it was in Oregon this year so that shouldn’t be a problem...

I like Tahoe for 2019, but I also have a crazy question... is Truckee or Tahoe City on the radar?

Sounded like @914_7T3 wanted to give it a try.
you'll need to pick a location and find the dates that work. Generally late May early June have been the time period. Typically Thursday people start rolling in Friday has a drive and a no hosted dinner. Saturday has a show n shine possibly a tech session, and a drive. Culminates with a dinner typically has an included in price portion. this last year we had a $20 credit that could be used to order whatever they wanted.
Tshirts will generate some revenue. Drives are nice, autocross would be cool if it could be worked in reasonably. Really depends on your local contacts.

I'm willing to help where I can. PM me if you want any observations I have, I'm sure Rob could talk some on the subject also.

It's some work, but it's fun too.

Thanks for the general overview @Mikey914 and will definitely reach to get more details on past events. Had the opportunity to get a couple of others on board for planning WCR19 in SoCal including myself @SocalAndy & @ValcoOscar Would love to have one or two other assist as needed. If we can have the blessing of the 914World Community, we are ready to Go! Please chime in to let us know.

Blessing? You don't know this crowd. They love events. Especially the events that others are hosting. Good choice on helpers. Don't stop at Mark. You need to contact every vendor and then be sure to mention, in print, those that did support your event. In fact, I have a couple of nice items to donate for the raffle that @Larmo63 will not be eligible for.

@ValcoOscar has stepped up, so its official!

@76-914 can be one of the two assists we are looking for.

Excellent,
PM me if / when you need any input. Happy to help any way I can.
Thanks,
Mark

Thank you! If you need advice, don’t hesitate to ask. I’ve done a couple of these and they aren’t as hard as they appear...

You going to make the WCR ? Gotta see your car again ....

I’ll be there Jim!

I’ve been craving So Cal for a while!

McMark's Colorado idea is pretty damn awesome.

"914 50th Anniversary Rally"

"Colorado in 2020"

It has a ring to it, doesn't it?

I think it's Colorado 420 not 2020 .
Besides there is already Silver Summit, and most of the Red Rocks events there

I like the idea of a national 914 event in Colorado to celebrate the 50th anniversary.
I'm willing to miss the WCR and Route 66 events in 2020 if someone organizes this.

Now back to 2019.
When can we expect an official announcement for the 2019 WCR?
Dates, locations and hotel?
I’m making my vacation plans for the year and would like to ink this in.

Crossed 2019 WCR off my calendar. Maybe make it next year.

I thought Jeff was working on this and was going to make an announcement latef on this month or next.

That is what I heard at the Holiday Lunch here.


I like Don's idea. Scrap all three events next year and do a national thing.

With all the stuff that's still on my plate, I doubt I'll make it to any of the 2019 events, but maybe, just maybe, I'll have a running P-car ready in time for 2020 (if I'm sill alive then)

I will find it difficult, but will commit to be there!!!!

See the replies. Why don't the organizers understand how people need to plan for vacation??? Are the organizers self employed and or retired? Dates first so we can plan. Details will be fine later. Please don't take this as dissing, but a planning director needs to be assigned.

I gently asked the same question. Apparently the Motels haven't been secured yet. As far as I know the route and possibly date were selected!

Hotel logistics are challenging, but that's just phone calls to the right people. It is not hard, it's communication skills prefaced by the drive to get it done.

Kent is gently. Awww. Love ya bro.

Seriously now, thanks for the work to pull it together. It's a serious job taking on an event like this.

It's just dates that we needed to plan. Location can be adjusted. Vaca time can't. I'm already out because of the time needed to plan time off. You can all rejoice you won't have to see my ugly mug!

I thought they announced the dates at our Xmas party in BP.

June 7-8-9. ???

Zip code?

Fine Mark. If you’re going, I’ll go. You driving down?

They announced the dates a while ago in a separate thread but no more details than that.
I read in another thread (route 66 I think) that they had announced routes and maybe additional info at the socal holiday lunch.

I am hoping to hear some specifics soon so I can figure out how to get it on my schedule.

Here is the 2019 WCR thread:
2019 WCR Thread

Jim