JeffBowlsby
Jan 22 2019, 11:12 PM
Been wondering about these orange straps, I have only seen a very few. What do we know about them?
What is their function?
My limited info suggests they are on the 1973 cars...but were these provided on all/other years? D-Jet only or L-Jet too? All engine sizes?
Original factory equipment or recall?
What are these made of - cloth, vinyl, rubber? Length/width/thickness? A pair of holes for mounting?
Anyone have these available or willing to repro them? I will buy one if available.
@dr914@autoatlanta.com @Mikey914 @bdstone914
Mikey914
Jan 22 2019, 11:46 PM
We have actually reproduced these and are in the process of trying to figure out the same thing. I believe they were made to hold the throttle cable at an optimum angle.
Our sample was from a 73 also.
Pics to follow tomorrow
914Next
Jan 23 2019, 05:34 AM
Yes. My '73 has one and it is known to be original on the car. In fact, I think the pic Jeff is showing is my car. Also noticed there is one on the '73 that George is currently selling. Noticed it because you never see them.
A pic from George's car:
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sixnotfour
Jan 23 2019, 07:02 AM
is iit this strap ,, re-purposed ??
on a six ive seen they were grey...maybe thats my hair color though
914Sixer
Jan 23 2019, 07:06 AM
Yep, repurposed strap. Also used on early 911 to hold brake cables same as the 914
sixnotfour
Jan 23 2019, 07:17 AM
914Next
Jan 23 2019, 08:18 AM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 23 2019, 08:17 AM)
Possibly repurposed but have never seen anything other than the orange one on 914's. Was the orange strap used on any 911's? 914-6?
Am sure that the orange strap was original to my car and likely many/most/all '73's at least?
dr914@autoatlanta.com
Jan 23 2019, 08:25 AM
yes throttle holding cable, you can certainly see how original a car is if it is still connected,. Same part number as a 356 cable strap, available for years. Just no one knew about it., Just got a car in and still has it attached. Neat vintage concours item
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Jan 22 2019, 10:46 PM)
We have actually reproduced these and are in the process of trying to figure out the same thing. I believe they were made to hold the throttle cable at an optimum angle.
Our sample was from a 73 also.
Pics to follow tomorrow
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bbrock
Jan 23 2019, 08:46 AM
Well I'll be...! I've had this thing in my grungy spare hardware bin for 30 years and never had a clue what it was. Now I know. Thanks!
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JeffBowlsby
Jan 23 2019, 09:00 AM
Great dialogue...but questions remain:
They have been documented here on several 1973 /4 cars so far...but were these provided on all/other years? D-Jet only or L-Jet too? All engine sizes? They are appropriate for /6s apparently but how were the three PN's used and how were they mounted in a /6?
Original factory equipment or recall?
Material - cloth, vinyl, rubber? Length/width/thickness? A pair of holes for mounting? Grommets/no grommets?
The two from Pelican above look similar to but not the right color or length. Three PNs are listed...for the /6's.
914Next
Jan 23 2019, 09:05 AM
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jan 23 2019, 10:00 AM)
Great dialogue...but questions remain:
They have been documented here on several 1973 /4 cars so far...but were these provided on all/other years? D-Jet only or L-Jet too? All engine sizes? They are appropriate for /6s apparently.
Original factory equipment or recall?
Material - cloth, vinyl, rubber? Length/width/thickness? A pair of holes for mounting? Grommets/no grommets?
The two from Pelican above look similar to but not the right color or length. Three PNs are listed...for the /6's.
Jeff, Happy to take more pics and get measurements on mine this weekend. As I recall it is cloth with a rubberized backing.
bbrock
Jan 23 2019, 09:33 AM
Mine too. Cloth canvas with what appears to be a tar or bitumen type backing. The orange color looks like it was sprayed on somewhat thick originally and is flaking off on mine. Mine came off a 73. Most likely from a 2.0 L but I can't rule out (about a 30% chance) that it came off a '73 1.7L I used to drive.
I want to keep mine but would be happy to loan it out if it helps for reproduction.
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GregAmy
Jan 23 2019, 09:34 AM
QUOTE(bbrock @ Jan 23 2019, 09:46 AM)
Well I'll be...! I've had this thing in my grungy spare hardware bin for 30 years and never had a clue what it was. Now I know. Thanks!
Diggity...same here! Thought a prior owner had something fall out of their glovebox or something...
I can also use one for the accel cable on the carb-equipped race car, replace the tye-wrap I've been using...
rgolia
Jan 23 2019, 10:33 AM
Definitely not on my 74 when it arrived home from the dealer.
sixnotfour
Jan 23 2019, 10:54 AM
brent whats the length ??
bbrock
Jan 23 2019, 11:01 AM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 23 2019, 09:54 AM)
brent whats the length ??
18cm x 2cm (and folded in half of course). Grommets are centered 1cm from each end. Secured with an M6x15 bolt and flat washer.
sixnotfour
Jan 23 2019, 11:07 AM
here it is related to accelator parts
sixnotfour
Jan 23 2019, 12:14 PM
QUOTE(bbrock @ Jan 23 2019, 10:01 AM)
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 23 2019, 09:54 AM)
brent whats the length ??
18cm x 2cm (and folded in half of course). Grommets are centered 1cm from each end. Secured with an M6x15 bolt and flat washer.
sixnotfour
Jan 23 2019, 12:18 PM
QUOTE
They are appropriate for /6s apparently but how were the three PN's used and how were they mounted in a /6?
Mikey914
Jan 23 2019, 01:47 PM
Grey or black $6
Will be ready next week
Mikey914
Jan 23 2019, 01:49 PM
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Jan 23 2019, 11:47 AM)
Grey or black $6
Will be ready next week
One of the things I’ve had on the back burner for awhile.
Note the ones listed in grey currently don’t match the length of the actual part I removed from the car. I believe they made the 911 version and super ended the part so one size fits all. So they would look out of place on our cars.
Mikey914
Jan 23 2019, 01:56 PM
Just need to pack up
Mikey914
Jan 23 2019, 02:45 PM
Will get listed tonight
914Next
Jan 23 2019, 04:29 PM
QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Jan 23 2019, 03:45 PM)
Will get listed tonight
The material looks the same Mark and looks like a nice reproduction of the original Are those orange though? Can't really tell from the pics.
Mikey914
Jan 23 2019, 04:41 PM
Yes and here is the comparison between the 40 year old part and mine. Also correct texture on the vinyl part too.
AHudson
Feb 2 2019, 09:07 AM
My 1970 -6 had a couple of these, but this is the most recent pic I can find. Engine and trans are out as we do a reseal and full clean up of engine compartment.
This car was restored by a seriously anal guy (not me!) and won two Parades in a row with it, so I'll make an assumption these are correct.
This shot is at the front of engine compartment, passenger side. You can see the fuel pump connector boot unplugged. I ordered new from Sierra Madre (gray), though I later found them a couple places. Mikey do you offer gray as well?
Firstcar
Mar 23 2019, 06:11 PM
Mark,
i’d Like to purchase one of these but can’t find them on either the new or the old site. Are they available yet?
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euro911
Mar 24 2019, 04:43 AM
Oooh ... will these work on a 71 1.7L? ...
... something else to add to my cart
Jamie
Mar 24 2019, 02:09 PM
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jan 23 2019, 07:00 AM)
Great dialogue...but questions remain:
They have been documented here on several 1973 /4 cars so far...but were these provided on all/other years? D-Jet only or L-Jet too? All engine sizes? They are appropriate for /6s apparently but how were the three PN's used and how were they mounted in a /6?
Original factory equipment or recall?
Material - cloth, vinyl, rubber? Length/width/thickness? A pair of holes for mounting? Grommets/no grommets?
The two from Pelican above look similar to but not the right color or length. Three PNs are listed...for the /6's.
The strap is not present on my all original Feb.73/4, and was never present. The throttle cable is too low to be held as such on the D-Jet and ECU on Mistress.
mzapisek
Apr 28 2023, 05:32 PM
My new throttle cable isn’t long enough when using the cable strap. Is there a longer cable I should be using?
Mikey914
Apr 28 2023, 06:05 PM
May be a function of the maker of the cable not allowing for the strap. I will need to check, but as we are venturing into cable manufacturing, I will verify they fit on ours.
They are right here for those that need them -
https://914rubber.com/accelerator-cable-sus...for-porsche-914
wonkipop
Apr 28 2023, 11:41 PM
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jan 23 2019, 09:00 AM)
Great dialogue...but questions remain:
They have been documented here on several 1973 /4 cars so far...but were these provided on all/other years? D-Jet only or L-Jet too? All engine sizes? They are appropriate for /6s apparently but how were the three PN's used and how were they mounted in a /6?
Original factory equipment or recall?
Material - cloth, vinyl, rubber? Length/width/thickness? A pair of holes for mounting? Grommets/no grommets?
The two from Pelican above look similar to but not the right color or length. Three PNs are listed...for the /6's.
not on L-jet.
mine has never had one and its fairly original.
secondly there is no where to affix it on an L jet, the ECU bracket is not the same as the D jet ECU bracket, different design
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PET indicates only on 914/6 and 914 2.0
Click to view attachment makes sense why its there on a 2.0, due to orientation of throttle body which is upright on the intake plenum?
nice repro part by 914 rubber. another obscure detail for the fanatics.
r_towle
Apr 29 2023, 12:52 PM
we used to make fun of the 356 guys talking about things like this.
Well, we arrived.
BTW, with having owned probably 15 or more of these..and seen many at shows....I have never ever seen this strap in place.
I have no doubt it should be there....just never knew.
rich
gandalf_025
Apr 29 2023, 02:03 PM
One that i just took off my car..
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wonkipop
Apr 29 2023, 04:26 PM
QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 29 2023, 12:52 PM)
we used to make fun of the 356 guys talking about things like this.
Well, we arrived.
BTW, with having owned probably 15 or more of these..and seen many at shows....I have never ever seen this strap in place.
I have no doubt it should be there....just never knew.
rich
god help us.
its a whacko detail for sure. what a world it was before zip ties?
rhodyguy
May 1 2023, 12:12 PM
Good thread. Informative.
dr914@autoatlanta.com
May 1 2023, 12:24 PM
to give the cable a smoother routing to the throttle body, we have factory ones on the shelf
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jan 22 2019, 10:12 PM)
Been wondering about these orange straps, I have only seen a very few. What do we know about them?
What is their function?
My limited info suggests they are on the 1973 cars...but were these provided on all/other years? D-Jet only or L-Jet too? All engine sizes?
Original factory equipment or recall?
What are these made of - cloth, vinyl, rubber? Length/width/thickness? A pair of holes for mounting?
Anyone have these available or willing to repro them? I will buy one if available.
@dr914@autoatlanta.com @Mikey914 @bdstone914
914werke
May 1 2023, 12:39 PM
I have a apparently 50 yr old OE one on my car.
Looks a bit tatty but still does the job
NARP74
May 1 2023, 01:31 PM
QUOTE(wonkipop @ Apr 29 2023, 04:26 PM)
QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 29 2023, 12:52 PM)
we used to make fun of the 356 guys talking about things like this.
Well, we arrived.
BTW, with having owned probably 15 or more of these..and seen many at shows....I have never ever seen this strap in place.
I have no doubt it should be there....just never knew.
rich
god help us.
its a whacko detail for sure. what a world it was before zip ties?
This is the problem with liking a 50 year old car. We have talked about everything else already...
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