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ctc911ctc
All,

I just had a revelation - though I know that there were dwindling sales (supply) of 914-6 's in 71 and 72, I got it stuck in my head that the passenger seat was not adjustable in all years of 914-6 cars.

A few years ago I saw a silver 914-6, good price, ignition on the left with an updated engine. Did not go so far as to compare the serial numbers since the right seat was adjustable I assumed that the car had been modified from a 4 to a 6. Though that moving the ignition was excessive at the time....hhhmmm.... needless to say I passed on the car.

Today (for reasons that I cannot explain) I realized that I may have passed on a pretty good bargain.....

Question: Did the seat move on the '71-'72 914-6 cars?

Many thanks in advance,

CTC911CTC headbang.gif
mepstein
Just in the 72's but I know quite a few guys who modified the fixed seat to movable since it was easy to do. It was done in my 4 when I purchased in '84.
Cornerlot
I sold my original 914-6 a couple of years ago, with a later seat installed by a previous owner. Strange reason to not check the VIN or discregard it having a LH key position.
ctc911ctc
QUOTE(Cornerlot @ Feb 20 2019, 11:46 AM) *

I sold my original 914-6 a couple of years ago, with a later seat installed by a previous owner. Strange reason to not check the VIN or discregard it having a LH key position.


I have been judged as strange by many......and another reason is found here.......GRIN!


mepstein
QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 20 2019, 01:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Cornerlot @ Feb 20 2019, 11:46 AM) *

I sold my original 914-6 a couple of years ago, with a later seat installed by a previous owner. Strange reason to not check the VIN or discregard it having a LH key position.


I have been judged as strange by many......and another reason is found here.......GRIN!


It was probably a fake 6 with lots of bondo and a motormeister engine. biggrin.gif
SirAndy
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 20 2019, 08:39 AM) *
Just in the 72's ...

Also note that the '72 /6 cars had the ignition switch on the steering column, just like the /4 cars.

As far as i know, no 914/6 with the ignition switch on the dash came with a movable passenger seat.
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mepstein
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 20 2019, 04:13 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 20 2019, 08:39 AM) *
Just in the 72's ...

Also note that the '72 /6 cars had the ignition switch on the steering column, just like the /4 cars.

As far as i know, no 914/6 with the ignition switch on the dash came with a movable passenger seat.
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good point.
TonyA
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 20 2019, 04:15 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 20 2019, 04:13 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 20 2019, 08:39 AM) *
Just in the 72's ...

Also note that the '72 /6 cars had the ignition switch on the steering column, just like the /4 cars.

As far as i know, no 914/6 with the ignition switch on the dash came with a movable passenger seat.
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good point.


I thought that they stopped manufacturing the 6 in 1970-71? Am i wrong on this?
mepstein
QUOTE(TonyA @ Feb 21 2019, 03:41 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 20 2019, 04:15 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 20 2019, 04:13 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 20 2019, 08:39 AM) *
Just in the 72's ...

Also note that the '72 /6 cars had the ignition switch on the steering column, just like the /4 cars.

As far as i know, no 914/6 with the ignition switch on the dash came with a movable passenger seat.
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good point.


I thought that they stopped manufacturing the 6 in 1970-71? Am i wrong on this?

They made some in 72 but I don’t that any came into the US.
SirAndy
QUOTE(TonyA @ Feb 21 2019, 12:41 PM) *
I thought that they stopped manufacturing the 6 in 1970-71? Am i wrong on this?

http://www.914world.com/specs/productionnumbers.php
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914Sixer
It was a hot ticket in the late 1980's to upgrade early cars to late seating. Lots doors and suspension went that way too.
Cairo94507
We "updated" the passenger seat in my Six to adjustable. I am not tall and neither is my wife. So I didn't want to have her feel like she was sitting in the back seat while in the car with me.
74ravenna
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 21 2019, 05:43 PM) *

QUOTE(TonyA @ Feb 21 2019, 12:41 PM) *
I thought that they stopped manufacturing the 6 in 1970-71? Am i wrong on this?

http://www.914world.com/specs/productionnumbers.php
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So what is the story behind the one and only 6 made in 1975?!
I wonder where that car is today.

mepstein
QUOTE(74ravenna @ Jul 20 2019, 02:52 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 21 2019, 05:43 PM) *

QUOTE(TonyA @ Feb 21 2019, 12:41 PM) *
I thought that they stopped manufacturing the 6 in 1970-71? Am i wrong on this?

http://www.914world.com/specs/productionnumbers.php
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So what is the story behind the one and only 6 made in 1975?!
I wonder where that car is today.

I thought some guys at the factory put it together with spare parts. Green with late bumpers if I recall.
davep
There is very little known about this car. I doubt that it got a 914/6 VIN. So, it could be viewed as a conversion. Was it a fully completed car obtained from Karmann who only built the 914/4? I doubt it was a trimmed chassis by Karmann with 914/6 parts, and assembled on a Porsche production line.
74ravenna
Would the people at Porsche that provide COAs have info on it?

Thanks
davep
They may have the info if the VIN to look up was known.
rhodyguy
FWIW. I think AA may have or did have the last factory 6. A 72 m.y.? I recall a write up about the acquisition in the first AA catalog I had. Perhaps George can confirm.

For you youngsters, pre-internet days. Puzzling questions had to be figured out. There was no near instantaneous gratification answers to the questions. Rotary phone days.
gms
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jul 27 2019, 08:56 AM) *

FWIW. I think AA may have or did have the last factory 6. A 72 m.y.? I recall a write up about the acquisition in the first AA catalog I had. Perhaps George can confirm.

For you youngsters, pre-internet days. Puzzling questions had to be figured out. There was no near instantaneous gratification answers to the questions. Rotary phone days.

Last production 914/6 is 914.243.0260 it is owned by a gentleman in WI
there was a special order 6 made in around '76 but I have no other details on that car

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ClayPerrine
The 75 listed in the production list on this site has never been confirmed to exist. There is only the one picture of it, and that is from a long way away. Rumor states it is a real six, with a real six VIN, assembled for some muckety muck at the factory. Built in 75 by the factory with 914-6 parts from the replacement parts bins.

No one has been able to confirm or deny its existence, like the Men in Black.
ClayPerrine
QUOTE(mepstein @ Feb 21 2019, 03:54 PM) *

QUOTE(TonyA @ Feb 21 2019, 03:41 PM) *

I thought that they stopped manufacturing the 6 in 1970-71? Am i wrong on this?

They made some in 72 but I don’t that any came into the US.


The 914-6 continued in production in 72. The chassis came from the /4 line. The steering column and key location were the same as a 72 four cylinder. The chassis wiring harness was from a /4 also. The wiper motor and windshield washer was the same as a /4. There was a short adapter plug made to connect the /4 harness to the /6 relay board. But they got a real Porsche VIN starting with 914. None were imported to the USA. If there is a 72 /6 here, it was a grey market car.

So basically, the 72 /6 was a six conversion that was done and blessed by Porsche.
SirAndy
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 27 2019, 11:28 AM) *
The 75 listed in the production list on this site has never been confirmed to exist. There is only the one picture of it, and that is from a long way away. Rumor states it is a real six, with a real six VIN, assembled for some muckety muck at the factory. Built in 75 by the factory with 914-6 parts from the replacement parts bins.
No one has been able to confirm or deny its existence, like the Men in Black.

Not true, there's some info about it in DGVWPB ...
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ClayPerrine
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 28 2019, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 27 2019, 11:28 AM) *
The 75 listed in the production list on this site has never been confirmed to exist. There is only the one picture of it, and that is from a long way away. Rumor states it is a real six, with a real six VIN, assembled for some muckety muck at the factory. Built in 75 by the factory with 914-6 parts from the replacement parts bins.
No one has been able to confirm or deny its existence, like the Men in Black.

Not true, there's some info about it in DGVWPB ...
shades.gif


What is "DGVWPB"???
Jonathan Livesay
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Dec 2 2019, 09:28 AM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 28 2019, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 27 2019, 11:28 AM) *
The 75 listed in the production list on this site has never been confirmed to exist. There is only the one picture of it, and that is from a long way away. Rumor states it is a real six, with a real six VIN, assembled for some muckety muck at the factory. Built in 75 by the factory with 914-6 parts from the replacement parts bins.
No one has been able to confirm or deny its existence, like the Men in Black.

Not true, there's some info about it in DGVWPB ...
shades.gif


What is "DGVWPB"???

https://www.ebay.de/itm/DAS-GROSSE-VW-PORSC...RcAAOSwPqtdKvsL
ClayPerrine
QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Dec 2 2019, 11:40 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Dec 2 2019, 09:28 AM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 28 2019, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 27 2019, 11:28 AM) *
The 75 listed in the production list on this site has never been confirmed to exist. There is only the one picture of it, and that is from a long way away. Rumor states it is a real six, with a real six VIN, assembled for some muckety muck at the factory. Built in 75 by the factory with 914-6 parts from the replacement parts bins.
No one has been able to confirm or deny its existence, like the Men in Black.

Not true, there's some info about it in DGVWPB ...
shades.gif


What is "DGVWPB"???

https://www.ebay.de/itm/DAS-GROSSE-VW-PORSC...RcAAOSwPqtdKvsL



Ah.. thanks for cluing me in.
ctc911ctc
In re-reading this I wanted to add that the 914-6 was at Beverly Hills Auto Club - which is a pretty interesting place to visit (though it is in East LA, not Beverly Hills). I was there a few weeks ago and there were some interesting cars.

Most interesting was a 300SL Gullwing BURNDOWN. About a foot tall, completely rust-covered - asking $1M - seriously. Also, they have an ALL ORIGINAL '57 speedster asking 217K.

The sales rep knew NOTHING about the Silver 914-6 or 914s in general. I only knew that 914-6 seats did not move so I passed - the car was rough but had very little rust (CA car).

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 20 2019, 11:13 AM) *

All,

I just had a revelation - though I know that there were dwindling sales (supply) of 914-6 's in 71 and 72, I got it stuck in my head that the passenger seat was not adjustable in all years of 914-6 cars.

A few years ago I saw a silver 914-6, good price, ignition on the left with an updated engine. Did not go so far as to compare the serial numbers since the right seat was adjustable I assumed that the car had been modified from a 4 to a 6. Though that moving the ignition was excessive at the time....hhhmmm.... needless to say I passed on the car.

Today (for reasons that I cannot explain) I realized that I may have passed on a pretty good bargain.....

Question: Did the seat move on the '71-'72 914-6 cars?

Many thanks in advance,

CTC911CTC headbang.gif

mepstein
QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Jan 15 2020, 10:40 AM) *

In re-reading this I wanted to add that the 914-6 was at Beverly Hills Auto Club - which is a pretty interesting place to visit (though it is in East LA, not Beverly Hills). I was there a few weeks ago and there were some interesting cars.

Most interesting was a 300SL Gullwing BURNDOWN. About a foot tall, completely rust-covered - asking $1M - seriously. Also, they have an ALL ORIGINAL '57 speedster asking 217K.

The sales rep knew NOTHING about the Silver 914-6 or 914s in general. I only knew that 914-6 seats did not move so I passed - the car was rough but had very little rust (CA car).

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 20 2019, 11:13 AM) *

All,

I just had a revelation - though I know that there were dwindling sales (supply) of 914-6 's in 71 and 72, I got it stuck in my head that the passenger seat was not adjustable in all years of 914-6 cars.

A few years ago I saw a silver 914-6, good price, ignition on the left with an updated engine. Did not go so far as to compare the serial numbers since the right seat was adjustable I assumed that the car had been modified from a 4 to a 6. Though that moving the ignition was excessive at the time....hhhmmm.... needless to say I passed on the car.

Today (for reasons that I cannot explain) I realized that I may have passed on a pretty good bargain.....

Question: Did the seat move on the '71-'72 914-6 cars?

Many thanks in advance,

CTC911CTC headbang.gif


I would say it was a smart move passing on anything that BHCC was selling. beerchug.gif
Tom_T
QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 15 2020, 07:45 AM) *

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Jan 15 2020, 10:40 AM) *

In re-reading this I wanted to add that the 914-6 was at Beverly Hills Auto Club - which is a pretty interesting place to visit (though it is in East LA, not Beverly Hills). I was there a few weeks ago and there were some interesting cars.

Most interesting was a 300SL Gullwing BURNDOWN. About a foot tall, completely rust-covered - asking $1M - seriously. Also, they have an ALL ORIGINAL '57 speedster asking 217K.

The sales rep knew NOTHING about the Silver 914-6 or 914s in general. I only knew that 914-6 seats did not move so I passed - the car was rough but had very little rust (CA car).

QUOTE(ctc911ctc @ Feb 20 2019, 11:13 AM) *

All,

I just had a revelation - though I know that there were dwindling sales (supply) of 914-6 's in 71 and 72, I got it stuck in my head that the passenger seat was not adjustable in all years of 914-6 cars.

A few years ago I saw a silver 914-6, good price, ignition on the left with an updated engine. Did not go so far as to compare the serial numbers since the right seat was adjustable I assumed that the car had been modified from a 4 to a 6. Though that moving the ignition was excessive at the time....hhhmmm.... needless to say I passed on the car.

Today (for reasons that I cannot explain) I realized that I may have passed on a pretty good bargain.....

Question: Did the seat move on the '71-'72 914-6 cars?

Many thanks in advance,

CTC911CTC headbang.gif


I would say it was a smart move passing on anything that BHCC was selling. beerchug.gif


I would agree about "Beverly Hills Car Crooks"! dry.gif

IIRC the few 1972 914-6's (340 IIRC) would've had the adjustable passenger seat, dash side vents, & other 1972 MY improvements too, but ask Dave P or one of the 914-6 Guru's.

There have also been a couple recent 72 -6's to appear in sales & shows that you can google for & look at to see if any of them had fixed or moveable passenger seats.

If not, then they were just finishing out the 1972 run (Aug 71 - July 72) with older 71 bodies & interiors, parts, etc. - which would not surprise me.

Either way - it's water long under the bridge, & no reason to chair.gif dead horse.gif yourself over it now.

Good luck on your quest! beerchug.gif
Tom
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