QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Jul 13 2019, 02:38 PM)
QUOTE(bbrock @ Jul 13 2019, 05:34 PM)
QUOTE(cuddy_k @ Jul 13 2019, 02:57 PM)
The COA still has the engine number. I think the change is that Porsche is asking owners to provide the number and they’ll verify it...rather than offering it up first. I guess it makes sense from an authenticity standpoint, as it prevents someone from getting the number and then stamping it on the block themselves. Though I’m pretty sure that would be obvious.
I got my COA last summer I think. I provided both the engine and trans numbers and the COA that came back verified matching numbers for the engine and something like "information not available" for the trans. Checking with others, it seems they either don't have records, or don't check numbers for the trans. But yeah, if you provide the engine number, they should tell you if it is a match.
Brent, thanks for your experience. Somehow I think my screen didn't refresh before I just posted.
SuperHawk -
What they're trying to do is to not give a 914-2.0 COA to a 1.7 or 1.8 car with a 2.0 swap - ergo they ask for you to send a pic of your engine case number - otherwise they'll just give you a COA listing it as "914" - period, with both engine & trans nos. blank or not available.
They've been doing this for years now since at least 2009 when I got mine, but they didn't tell me to send in my engine number pic beforehand, so I had to fight them on that & the interior color code error (engine # pic solved the former, then I had to find docs showing that THEY had the interior color code wrong!).
I really don't know why they cannot just look at their Kardex or Microfilm/Microfiche or digital records & see if the car's record shows it as originally as a GA engine (or GB, GC) for a factory 2.0, & then make the COA based on that as the evidence that it was a factory 2.0.
Denying 914-2.0's without the engine code being provided is just BS, they don't seem to do it on most other Porsche models' COAs, & can easily just list the engine as "GA" (or GB, GC) with the rest of the original case number not provided. After all - Porsche should have the record of it's engine type!
IMHO - it's just as important to show the car & ALL of it's original equipment numbers, & then you know if you have numbers matching or not, but it's still what it was when the factory built it. They don't do that for the far more pricey 914-6's & give out their engine numbers on the COAs, so why play games with the 914/4 2.0s!?
You could ask them to confirm that by looking on the Kardex/etc. records if it shows a GA (or GB if it was originally a Euro/RoW 2.0 car), & say that they should have the original records correctly, & that you should have the ability to rebuild as needed now (or prior owner) without PCNA denying it is a 2.0.
If you already know that your current case doesn't match, then it will be up to you to get old sales &/or service docs showing it was originally a 2.0, & whenever they swapped in the current 2.0 as a replacement - which was also very common practice.
Usually this was done by both P-dealers &/or local shops with a good used engine case to rebuild the engine - sometimes even with the original head(s) if not damaged - but then it would carry the old original engine case number stamping, although some rebuilders would provide their own case number tag for their rebuilt motor (probably for their own warranty tracking). In this case, you'll want to find the invoice for that work, & hopefully it or another earlier invoice will show the original case number.
However, if yours has an "X" or "EX" at the case number, then it is a Porsche Factory Exchange engine or case, & you should be able to ask them to look at their records on your car by VIN to see when it was replaced with a factory rebuilt or new motor.
BTW - apparently they never or very rarely put down the trans no., so all the ones I've seen have not available or similar.
Hope this helps!
Good Luck!
Tom
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