QUOTE(rjames @ Nov 4 2019, 12:15 AM)
QUOTE(Morrie @ Nov 3 2019, 07:48 PM)
QUOTE(rjames @ Nov 2 2019, 06:28 PM)
Can changing the MPS settings affect idle?
So... what exactly changed other than the distributor since the problem wasn't there. MPS settings affect AFR which absolutely can impact idle. Little to no impact on idle speed by the air bypass screw can indicate a lean condition....
Share what else changed....
I reread my troubleshooting thread I posted here a few months ago. Issue started as an unstable idle and eventually the car wouldn’t start. Traced the problems to a leaking MPS and a leaking distributor dashpot. Replaced the distributor with a the 123 unit and got a replacement mps that was calibrated to factory specs. Replaced all the vacuum hoses, seals, throttle body, plenum gaskets, rebuilt the injectors and when everything was back together the car was running great and idling at 800 or 900rpm (with the tb bleed screw all the way in.)
Then I looked at the AFR readings and found the it was running way too lean. I adjusted the MPS accordingly. sometime after I got it dialed in (a couple of weeks?) the idle wouldn’t always come down to 900 when stopping at a light as it had been. Sometimes it would only drop to 1200-1500 rpms. I thought I had traced the issue to a leaky decel valve (fix one thing and another things breaks). The decel valve wasn’t closing consistently, leaving the car to idle high unless I blipped the throttle. I finally removed it from the system. It helped bring the idle rpms consistently down to 1100, but not all the way down to 800-900 as it should be.
AFR shows ~12.9 at idle.
it does take a bit if trial and error to get it dialed in, partly due to the sensitivity of the 123. before with my OEM distributor you had to move it further, but the 123 is very touchy that way. fuel pressure can play a roll as well - I have an in-line pressure gauge and I am right at 28-29.
also yes the Mps makes a huge difference. I have found with D-jet that most MPS for my car, if tuned to factor spec, I have 3 now, all of them had to be retuned to my car and made more rich, they all ran lean and with that had a higher idle,
but I now have a perfect 950 idle when warmed up. Please note that different people have different issues and use different settings, but on mine I am using the vac port, and with out it I would have a 1500+rpm idle! but with the vac port hooked up it pulls it right down to normal idle, and that was after doing the whole, initial set up static timing, then blocking everything and setting timing at 3500rpm, 27' btdc,
etc etc, and then with vac port hooked up its right where I want it. now I did also have to turn the idle setting on the ECU over a bit and the idle screw is closed. but Its running really good, my only issue is my AFR says my idle A/F mix is about 10.5, so on the rich side but on the road its perfect so I am not going to mess with the MPS at this point as its at 12.7 on WOT and cruising its about 13.7. head temps and oil temps are perfect. I don't see how some people are running with out the vac advance disconnected and blocked off, but I guess whatever works for you.
Phil