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Tdskip
First time dropping a 914 engine and it was pretty straightforward, but then again I had a lift.

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Tdskip
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Tdskip
Sequence is kind of off but....


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Chi-town
Not a bad looking setup
sixnotfour
Go till She Blows....
914werke
Crazy! (someone rotate Toms Pics smile.gif)
Tdskip
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Tdskip
Better view of the turbo – it’s pretty cool how this was done.

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sixnotfour
There is a lightened flywheel ??....
Tdskip
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Jan 18 2020, 01:56 PM) *

There is a lightened flywheel....


Good eyes – I had not spotted that and with everything else going on didn’t pick it up seat of the pants.

This thing was pretty built, I am really curious to see what we find when I get the covers off so we get a better view of the heads. It sure felt like it was bigger than a 2 L engine.
Tdskip
Good morning guys – focus on getting the replacement engine in and running today, fingers crossed. The removed turbo engine has some interesting bits to it – the lightened flywheel, oil pressure and temperature sensors, cylinder head sensor etc. I could be wrong, but I’m also fairly convinced that it’s a big bore build and has unique heads on it.

It’s going to be a couple weeks before I do anything with it but I’m assuming I should just start disassembling it to see what the hell it actually is and if anything is usable?
ndfrigi
Nice seeing you yesterday Tom! That engine yesterday in your car looks clean and hoping it will run smoothly so you can start enjoying driving your red car.
Tdskip
QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Jan 19 2020, 12:14 PM) *

Nice seeing you yesterday Tom! That engine yesterday in your car looks clean and hoping it will run smoothly so you can start enjoying driving your red car.


Likewise, and thank you for the exhaust/muffler set up. Already installed and it fits perfectly. Thank you!

This car is a rats nest of wiring – all sorts of stuff going on here but have started stripping everything out that is an absolutely needed and I just got the engine to briefly fire, so making progress. As bad as that is, there are two pushbutton starters on the car and all sorts of funky is going on at the relay board too. Loads of non-Porsche color wires that change colors midway....

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Tdskip
New engine is in and everything mechanical is tightened up, just need to get the throttle cable that was in it that was designed to work with the old engine set up to work with the new one.

I am relieved to say that the engine I put in sounds great – idles smoothly, it’s quiet, seems eager to rev. I bought this from a guy who represented that it was built by a shop up in Simi Valley and only had about 3000 miles on it before he put it into a tree.


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914Toy
Hi Tom,

Good to read you are about to be enjoying your red car. Stripping the turbo engine will be interesting to read about what you find popcorn[1].gif
mb911
Gotta be honest I love that turbo setup.. If I had a 4cyl car it would be a turbo no question.
Tdskip
So the good news is I was able to drive the car around the block and it seems healthy, but it’s not as torquey as that engine that you and Forrest help me with Keith @914Toy

I also found a goodie I did not know I had!

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The bad news is that my test drive was only in 2nd and 4th gears since I need to adjust the shifter.

Before I dive into that could I get eyes on this please? Don’t think this should be much of any of the white plastic showing, should there?

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Tdskip
@mb911 trade you for some 914/6 bits!

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mb911
Lol.. Don't have a 4 .. Dad does ..
Tdskip
@mb911 - that is a poor excuse, LOL.

Looks like I messed up the alignment of that shifter cone screw, might be the gear selection issue.
KevinW
I think you have the wrong plastic bushing holder.
rgalla9146
QUOTE(KevinW @ Jan 19 2020, 08:12 PM) *

I think you have the wrong plastic bushing holder.


great catch Kevin, the one in the picture is from an early rear shift 914
it would be at the bulkhead in front of the engine
Tdskip
Good eyes guys, let me swap that out and see where it gets me.

Thanks!
914Toy
Tom, perhaps you already know, but if I see it correctly, you have too much play between the shift rod and the white plastic bushing. If so, there is much shifting improvement available from improving this fitment.
Tdskip
Thanks @914Toy , got some help on that to know it needs to be addressed.

Thanks!
Chi-town
Yep, that's a tail shift selector cup.

If you need a side shift one let me know I have many.
Tdskip
OK - this looks a bit better.

Thanks to all who spotted this!

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ClayPerrine
QUOTE(Tdskip @ Jan 19 2020, 06:11 PM) *

So the good news is I was able to drive the car around the block and it seems healthy, but it’s not as torquey as that engine that you and Forrest help me with Keith @914Toy

I also found a goodie I did not know I had!

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The bad news is that my test drive was only in 2nd and 4th gears since I need to adjust the shifter.

Before I dive into that could I get eyes on this please? Don’t think this should be much of any of the white plastic showing, should there?

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There are two different connectors for the cup bushings. The one in your picture is for an early 911 or 914, and is used under the shifter. The other one is longer, and is used with the side shift console. You have the wrong one in there.

Tdskip
Thanks @ClayPerrine

That was how it came to me, fixed it now. Too a coupe tries to align the shifter but I am back on the road.

So far so good but I have a bad flat spot on the dual carbs when I give it gas from lower RPM, but I can deal with that later.

Thanks for all of the help and PMs gentlemen!
ndfrigi
Good job Tom! Now maybe just need carb rebuild or just tuning.
Tdskip
QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Jan 21 2020, 06:08 PM) *

Good job Tom! Now maybe just need carb rebuild or just tuning.



@ndfrigi - thanks again for the help and muffler/exhaust.
Tdskip
I wanted to follow up on several requests for pictures of the mystery engine after he tin has been removed.

Anyone recognize these bits?

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Superhawk996
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All I can say is Wow - - thats crazy!
Tdskip
Going to pull that side head off and start measuring.

Any bets on how big the jugs are.
914werke
Are those jugs Alum?
Tdskip
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Are those jugs Alum?


@914werke - well what do you know, just check with a magnet and they the are aluminum.

I am happy about that, correct?

preach
Why a "6" on the jug?
Tdskip
Maybe 911?

No idea otherwise.
Brett W
Could be some Biral cylinders. Probably an iron sleeve pressed into an aluminum cylinder then fins are cut onto the perimeter. 911s used them l ow power applications, maybe slightly better than raw cast iron, but no where near as good as Nickies.

All of the welding on the head is interesting, not exactly sure what they were going to achieve with it. Look forward to more pictures.
Jonathan Livesay
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Why a "6" on the jug?

I see 3-4
Tdskip
Oops - the stamping is a bit off. Looks like a 6 in the picture but in person is a 3.

Good eyes guys.

Any see anything interesting here?

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davep
solid spacers, maybe 911 elephant foot adjusters, not stock springs from the color of them, rockers appear to have multiple shims.
Tdskip
Thanks - there were a ton of shins in there.

Pushrods has RTV on them - not awesome.

Once all of the cylinders head bolts are off the head should just pull off, correct? My guess is that it ain’t too uncommon for them to get stuck from heat cycling?

Krieger
I wonder if those are water cooled Vanagan heads? They don't look welded, but more like opened up to allow air flow in.
VaccaRabite
T4 Aircraft parts?

Zach
Tdskip
Good morning gentlemen.

The heads have been trimmed in some areas, will better document once I get the head off.

Given that the cylinders are aluminum I am trying to avoid wedging anything between them and the head to lever it off.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Mark Henry
Is this the turbo engine? 5th head stud mod is what some guys did to try and keep the heads sealed.
Tdskip
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Mar 16 2020, 07:36 AM) *

Is this the turbo engine? 5th head stud mod is what some guys did to try and keep the heads sealed.


Good morning Mark, it is.

Am I missing releasing a stud? Let me check again.

We are sooooo close to seeing what the heck this thing is!
Mark Henry
QUOTE(Tdskip @ Mar 16 2020, 08:41 AM) *

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Mar 16 2020, 07:36 AM) *

Is this the turbo engine? 5th head stud mod is what some guys did to try and keep the heads sealed.


Good morning Mark, it is.

Am I missing releasing a stud? Let me check again.

We are sooooo close to seeing what the heck this thing is!


The head has a 5th stud nut inline with the spark plug, about the place a regular head's plug would be. Makes for 10 studs per side instead of the regular 8. I think they are heavily modified and welded stock heads.
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