914_7T3
Jun 23 2020, 11:05 PM
Would like to confirm if the the heat shield above the muffler is bolted into the cross section of the rear trunk from underneath or is it welded in place?
Just learned I don't have one installed and the heat is baking my new paint in the trunk from underneath. Have one sourced already and will also be going with heat insulation matting for extra protection.
bdstone914
Jun 24 2020, 04:38 AM
QUOTE(914_7T3 @ Jun 23 2020, 10:05 PM)
Would like to confirm if the the heat shield above the muffler is bolted into the cross section of the rear trunk from underneath or is it welded in place?
Just learned I don't have one installed and its baking my new paint in the trunk from underneath. Have one sourced already and will also be going with heat insulation matting for extra protection.
As we discussed only the early 1970 cars had them bolted on.
I don't see how it can be rewelded with the limited access to the rear brackets on the shield
barefoot
Jun 24 2020, 06:52 AM
For my 76, it was welded on. Since I replaced a portion of the rear trunk pan, mine is now SS pop riveted on.
Barefoot
aharder
Jun 24 2020, 11:35 AM
My 75 is welded, I plan on using inserts to re-install once I remove and repair the trunk pan
mepstein
Jun 24 2020, 11:56 AM
QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Jun 24 2020, 06:38 AM)
QUOTE(914_7T3 @ Jun 23 2020, 10:05 PM)
Would like to confirm if the the heat shield above the muffler is bolted into the cross section of the rear trunk from underneath or is it welded in place?
Just learned I don't have one installed and its baking my new paint in the trunk from underneath. Have one sourced already and will also be going with heat insulation matting for extra protection.
As we discussed only the early 1970 cars had them bolted on.
I don't see how it can be rewelded with the limited access to the rear brackets on the shield
Turn it into a bolt on and then cover over the bolts with some seam sealer and undercoating.
davep
Jun 24 2020, 11:59 AM
From what I have seen, all the 914/6 had them fastened by screws in the rear trunk, and the 914/4 were welded in place.
bkrantz
Jun 24 2020, 08:43 PM
Bolt-in? Weld-in? Why not both?
My solution: weld in some simple brackets.
bkrantz
Jun 24 2020, 08:44 PM
And then bolt on the heat shield.
914werke
Jun 25 2020, 12:26 AM
I like it
zoomCat
Jun 25 2020, 09:44 AM
As it turns out I was looking at this very thing today. I'm in the process of stripping the easily removed stuff prior to sending the car off for restoration. This car is a six, so the heat shield is attached with screws to the rear trunk floor, hidden under factory seam sealer. Here's one of them:
Click to view attachmentThere are six of them, located here:
Click to view attachment Here's a shot of the top side of the heat shield:
Click to view attachment And a detail of the mounting hardware:
Click to view attachment The shield is solid, but with surface rust, so it's going to the dippers prior to paint. I don't think I'll hide the fasteners under sealer when it goes back together, though.
Guy
FlacaProductions
Jun 25 2020, 10:42 AM
ElCee
Jun 25 2020, 11:07 AM
I have a 914/4 from May 1970.
My car has a heat shield attached with screws.
Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
Eric_Shea
Jun 25 2020, 11:23 AM
Not easy to get at but, it can be welded back in.
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zoomCat
Jun 25 2020, 11:24 AM
Interesting, the much clearer pictures of the /4 show a similar method of attachment but different locations. I wonder what the reason was?
914_7T3
Jun 25 2020, 11:43 AM
Thanks for chiming in and the solutions are great. Embarrased to find out that the heat shield is indeed there as evidenced at the top of this photo from suspension swap Saturday.
Click to view attachmentStill can't figure out why the paint in the trunk has heat damage, however
@Flacaproductions has it right as AASE Sales sells precut sections of that same heat insulating material from Thermal Products.
https://www.thermalcontrolproducts.com/our-.../zeroclearance/The plan is to install that on the shield along with another section underneath the trunk mat. Ordered this sound dampening trunk mat material from Porsche Classic and will custom cut and run that. Of course its not original, but I still have my original mat if I ever show the car.
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SirAndy
Jun 25 2020, 12:49 PM
QUOTE(davep @ Jun 24 2020, 10:59 AM)
From what I have seen, all the 914/6 had them fastened by screws in the rear trunk, and the 914/4 were welded in place.
Early /4 cars had them screwed in as well ...
davep
Jun 25 2020, 03:33 PM
Thanks Andy, I stand corrected. There are so few 70 or 71 914 in Canada. When did the detachable shield end?
rgalla9146
Jun 25 2020, 05:38 PM
The 'screw in' early one is found in both 4 and 6 cylinder cars.
There are at least two .....maybe three weld in versions.
iankarr
Jun 25 2020, 09:06 PM
My guess (and it's just a guess) is it might not be not heat damage that's messing with your paint. At least not directly. I had the same issue on my yellow car and it turned out there was a little oil / contamination still in the trunk when the paint was applied. As whatever oil got warm it spread and broke the adhesion.
Montreal914
Feb 12 2021, 11:06 AM
Planning on installing my new trunk panel this weekend and have been thinking about what route I will use for the heat shield.
I like the
@bkrantz option
But first, I would appreciate a basic information. Can someone give me the distance from the back edge of the shield to the rear panel of the car?
Thank you!
bkrantz's picture as reference.
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rgalla9146
Feb 12 2021, 11:29 AM
Welding a shield in is easy.
Mark where the brackets contact the trunk floor, drill holes in floor, then
plug weld to the brackets from the trunk side.
Grind to taste.
Montreal914
Feb 12 2021, 03:15 PM
Sure, but I like the idea of being able to remove it.
But my main question is; what's the distance from the shield's back edge to the rear body panel?
bkrantz
Feb 12 2021, 09:48 PM
Just over 1-1/2 inches, from inside the rear body panel (above the lip) to the trailing edge of the muffler heat shield.
BTW, I got hi-temp powder coating done on the shield.
rgalla9146
Feb 12 2021, 10:34 PM
Beautiful.
Montreal914
Feb 13 2021, 10:53 AM
QUOTE(bkrantz @ Feb 12 2021, 07:48 PM)
Just over 1-1/2 inches, from inside the rear body panel (above the lip) to the trailing edge of the muffler heat shield.
BTW, I got hi-temp powder coating done on the shield.
Very nice
Thank you for the info.
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