Jamie
Sep 20 2020, 11:33 AM
...So what battery is preferred these days, and what class of battery is correct for our 914's?
thelogo
Sep 20 2020, 01:13 PM
Yeh optimas do very poorly unless constantly
On a trickle charger . amd even then not to reliable
I recommend a !!!! sealed !!!! lead acid batt ( die hard preffered)
But if you're gonna park the car for more then 2 weeks
Take out the battery
If you cant do that then go for another dry cell $$$$$$$$$$
But its a huge waste of money if you ask me
SirAndy
Sep 20 2020, 01:24 PM
QUOTE(thelogo @ Sep 20 2020, 12:13 PM)
Yeh optimas do very poorly unless constantly
On a trickle charger
...
But if you're gonna park the car for more then 2 weeks
Take out the battery
...
My old red top optima has been doing just fine with literally sitting in the car for several months, more than once.
The car sat without any trickle charger for at least 4 months last winter and then again for at least 4 months this summer.
Both times it started right up with no indication of power loss on the starter.
aharder
Sep 20 2020, 01:33 PM
My Red Top has lasted me for years.
I put a trickle changer on it during the winter or if I know I won't be driving it for 3 or 4 weeks.
Jamie
Sep 20 2020, 01:39 PM
This Optima 34R is 10 yrs. old now, and has a trickle charger when I'm not driving it for some time. But this time even the full charger only got it to just barely 11 v. so I've ordered an Odyssey PC 925 from local Auto Zone.
mepstein
Sep 20 2020, 02:29 PM
Optima red top. Battery tender jr. I get years of good service.
solex
Sep 20 2020, 02:36 PM
I have had my red top optima since 9/11 - 9 years on a wallwart Battery Tender no problems so far...
rhodyguy
Sep 20 2020, 02:50 PM
Have you tried the 2 battery charging method?
thelogo
Sep 20 2020, 03:48 PM
Actually yes they do ok . unless accidentally let to discharge like my did (signal left on ). then their junk
But after that i just dont trust em !
mepstein
Sep 20 2020, 03:54 PM
Mine (3 of them) completely discharged a couple times. No problem charging them back up. There’s a process to follow if it won’t take a charge. I’ve been getting 8-10 years from them so I’m satisfied.
90quattrocoupe
Sep 20 2020, 04:14 PM
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Sep 20 2020, 01:50 PM)
Have you tried the 2 battery charging method?
I have. I use a Battery Minder. As long as you have two of the same type of battery, gel, flooded, etc.. You put them in series, not parallel. I made up a cable for between the two batteries.
Greg W.
Olympic 914
Sep 20 2020, 04:43 PM
QUOTE(90quattrocoupe @ Sep 20 2020, 06:14 PM)
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Sep 20 2020, 01:50 PM)
Have you tried the 2 battery charging method?
I have. I use a Battery Minder. As long as you have two of the same type of battery, gel, flooded, etc.. You put them in series, not parallel. I made up a cable for between the two batteries.
Greg W.
I don't know about doing that. In series it is 24 V
In parallel it's still 12V but the good battery lets the charger do its job. But slower on both.
Rand
Sep 20 2020, 05:09 PM
Lead acid batteries do not like to be discharged. You have to keep them topped off (your alternator does), which means trickling over long periods of non-usage. If you don't want to deal with that, you have to go with different technology such as lithium (huge side benefit, weight difference). Just saying "sealed" or AGM vs old school doesn't get you out of this.
If you insist on lead acid or AGM, I keep hearing that Optimas are not what they used to be. Odyssey seems to be the stronger brand now. But the future is leaving this technology behind.
oakdalecurtis
Sep 20 2020, 05:25 PM
I’ve run my Optima’s forever. The key is to keep it in the trickle charger at home. I didn’t like constantly having to open my engine lid to hook it up though do I created this quick connect system, easy peasy and fast hookup. Check out this old post:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=300866&hl=
horizontally-opposed
Sep 20 2020, 05:53 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 20 2020, 12:24 PM)
My old red top optima has been doing just fine with literally sitting in the car for several months, more than once.
The car sat without any trickle charger for at least 4 months last winter and then again for at least 4 months this summer.
Both times it started right up with no indication of power loss on the starter.
My experience, also. I think I am on #3 over 30 years, or maybe it's #2? I can't remember, but hard to argue with the results. Starts every time, and probably saved my chassis when I made the switch from lead-acid in 1990~. Have never kept them on chargers. Only downside I see is they are heavy.
I wouldn't mind doing something lighter next time around, but not sure what that is—and don't love the idea of more maintenance or having to use a charger.
burton73
Sep 21 2020, 11:27 AM
QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 20 2020, 01:29 PM)
Optima red top. Battery tender jr. I get years of good service.
Same for me.
Bob B
Andyrew
Sep 21 2020, 11:35 AM
I've got a TINY lithium. Its less than 2lbs. 330CCA. I got 2 years out of the first one till it decided to be a PITA and not hold a charge. Im going to keep this one unplugged when not in use, but it turns over the car really, really well and they are only $90.
90quattrocoupe
Sep 22 2020, 12:21 AM
QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Sep 20 2020, 03:43 PM)
QUOTE(90quattrocoupe @ Sep 20 2020, 06:14 PM)
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Sep 20 2020, 01:50 PM)
Have you tried the 2 battery charging method?
I have. I use a Battery Minder. As long as you have two of the same type of battery, gel, flooded, etc.. You put them in series, not parallel. I made up a cable for between the two batteries.
Greg W.
I don't know about doing that. In series it is 24 V
In parallel it's still 12V but the good battery lets the charger do its job. But slower on both.
So sorry about that. I was thinking about my old MGB, and forgetting that they were two 6 volt batteries in series.
VegasRacer
Sep 22 2020, 01:24 AM
QUOTE(Rand @ Sep 20 2020, 04:09 PM)
If you insist on lead acid or AGM, I keep hearing that Optimas are not what they used to be. Odyssey seems to be the stronger brand now.
I had a few Optimas. Once I got a bad one
so I switched to an Odyssey. They delivered reliable service.
pete000
Sep 22 2020, 01:36 AM
If you use the Optima charger it can bring back even the most dead of Optima batteries. I love mine. I have had a few red tops considered gone come back.
silverg
Sep 22 2020, 06:22 AM
Two bad Optimas - Odysseys no problem
rjames
Sep 22 2020, 09:57 AM
Happy with my Odyssey so far.
Jamie
Sep 22 2020, 11:36 AM
QUOTE(rjames @ Sep 22 2020, 07:57 AM)
Happy with my Odyssey so far.
In the photos the Odyssey has screw top connections for leads, so what mods did y'all do to use the original post clamp connectors?
rjames
Sep 22 2020, 11:48 AM
QUOTE(Jamie @ Sep 22 2020, 10:36 AM)
QUOTE(rjames @ Sep 22 2020, 07:57 AM)
Happy with my Odyssey so far.
In the photos the Odyssey has screw top connections for leads, so what mods did y'all do to use the original post clamp connectors?
for another $10 I bought mine with the SAE terminal kit already installed.
https://www.odysseybattery.com/products/sae-terminal-kit/
horizontally-opposed
Sep 22 2020, 12:41 PM
Trying to remember which one of the high-tech, lightweight micro batteries has an on-off switch?
Could be pretty appealing for a 914 that sits a lot…and as a theft deterrent, even if it's easily defeated.
Amphicar770
Sep 23 2020, 01:10 PM
I've gotten 10+ years out of several Optimas (red and yellow top).
Replacing a battery is a lot cheaper than rebuilding your hell hole when your lead acid battery leaks.
targa72e
Sep 23 2020, 01:54 PM
I have use optima and odessey only for last 15years. I have pretty much moved to only optima last couple years. They have tended to last 7-10 years on average. On cars that do not drain when turned off and are used at least every two weeks I dont do anything. On newer cars with higher drain that dont get used frequently they are on battery tenders.
john
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