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Pezz

No affiliation -- the photos and story are worth a glance.
All I can say is "WOW". aktion035.gif

Porsche factory documentation indicates that this 914/6, car number 0233, is the 2nd of 15 M471 examples produced in 1971.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/am22/ame...46-m471/1202278
EdwardBlume
That’s a lot of money
rhodyguy
If it sells for the high guess, there's a 115.5k buyer's premium. YIKES! I was under the impression, from world opinions, the guess/hope was even higher than the 500k+mark.
dr914@autoatlanta.com
I bet that it will bring more than that.



QUOTE(EdwardBlume @ Feb 28 2022, 11:23 AM) *

That’s a lot of money

rhodyguy
3 aggressive bidders required.
Superhawk996
QUOTE(EdwardBlume @ Feb 28 2022, 01:23 PM) *

That’s a lot of money


Not if you have a couple hundred million in the bank. shades.gif

My wife used to work for a private equity guy. He would call her and just have her wire the money. av-943.gif No problem!
carr914
I think it bring more than $700k (maybe more since it's spent some time in my Garage! evilgrin.gif )

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rhodyguy
The average public will not get the provenance. To them, another flared 914. Flares and tributes are unique but hardly rare in the 914 community. Sotheby's draws a dif crowd.
raynekat
Factory M471 "Strenger" car.
There is no way on earth this will be remotely inexpensive.
Sky is the limit with the right bidders.
Pezz
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Feb 28 2022, 01:06 PM) *

The average public will not get the provenance. To them, another flared 914. Flares and tributes are unique but hardly rare in the 914 community. Sotheby's draws a dif crowd.

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914Toy
I like the stripes evilgrin.gif
Lucky9146
I'd really like to download the pictures from the auction listing but it will not let me. Unless there is another way?
Any ideas from the techies as it would be nice to capture these for future reference.
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Pezz
QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Feb 28 2022, 08:11 PM) *

I'd really like to download the pictures from the auction listing but it will not let me. Unless there is another way?
Any ideas from the techies as it would be nice to capture these for future reference.
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Screenshots
Shift-Command-3 are keys I use.
Then crop the background - that's Command-K keys

The stripes over the headlights and fender curves and chrome and color contrasts speak to me.
But I don't see the color as "Tangerine"... ? Bloody orange maybe..?
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Gustl
QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Mar 1 2022, 05:11 AM) *

I'd really like to download the pictures from the auction listing but it will not let me. Unless there is another way?
Any ideas from the techies as it would be nice to capture these for future reference.
driving.gif white914.jpg

if you open the auction page with Internet Explorer, then you can right click the photos and use "save background as ..." sunglasses.gif

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eric9144
Noticed an odd detail the shape of the fenders to rockers is unlike any other 914/6 I've seen, interesting for sure...Front and rear tips up into the fender, rear has a triangular flat spot
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GregAmy
Further discussion from January:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...026&hl=m471

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Feb 28 2022, 11:11 PM) *

I'd really like to download the pictures from the auction listing but it will not let me. Unless there is another way?

CTL+U to view the page source

Search for "jpg" and copy/paste those URLs.
JamesM
QUOTE(Pezz @ Feb 28 2022, 09:19 PM) *

But I don't see the color as "Tangerine"... ? Bloody orange maybe..?


"Tangerine" and "Blood Orange" are the same color.
smg914
Wow, what an experience! My car could not have been treated better. Out of 89 cars, they selected 25 to be displayed inside the main ballroom at the Ritz and mine was one of them. Also RM treated me like royalty. However, the bidding on my car was nerve racking. The final sale price paid by the buyer was $544,000. However you look at it, that's a lot of money.
sixnotfour
you all had a chance..
SirAndy
QUOTE(smg914 @ Mar 5 2022, 04:01 PM) *

Wow, what an experience! My car could not have been treated better. Out of 89 cars, they selected 25 to be displayed inside the main ballroom at the Ritz and mine was one of them. Also RM treated me like royalty. However, the bidding on my car was nerve racking. The final sale price paid by the buyer was $544,000. However you look at it, that's a lot of money.

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jdamiano
QUOTE(smg914 @ Mar 5 2022, 07:01 PM) *

Wow, what an experience! My car could not have been treated better. Out of 89 cars, they selected 25 to be displayed inside the main ballroom at the Ritz and mine was one of them. Also RM treated me like royalty. However, the bidding on my car was nerve racking. The final sale price paid by the buyer was $544,000. However you look at it, that's a lot of money.


I was there yesterday and saw the car. Looked great and I loved the fact it was inside the ballroom. Showed respect for the 914 for sure!
JmuRiz
QUOTE(eric9144 @ Mar 1 2022, 10:37 AM) *

Noticed an odd detail the shape of the fenders to rockers is unlike any other 914/6 I've seen, interesting for sure...Front and rear tips up into the fender, rear has a triangular flat spot
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Very cool detail...anyone else have a factory flare car to see if that’s ‘normal’ or if they were all different as they figured everything out etc.

I love that it brought a big number, the other /6 did too right?
Tdskip
Whoa - other than a billionaire who just wanted it can someone help make sense of the closing price?
rhodyguy
In the world of 1/2 billion dollar pleasure craft (where large bridge dismantling is required to get the vessel to the seas), a 1/2 million dollar 914 seems fairly reasonable. Filling the vessel's fuel tanks? Not so reasonable these days.
Shivers
Congratulations to the seller and the buyer. A really fine car with a better back story.
infraredcalvin
QUOTE(Tdskip @ Mar 6 2022, 05:25 AM) *

Whoa - other than a billionaire who just wanted it can someone help make sense of the closing price?


Take a rare car to begin with, under 3500 total 914-6s, then have the factory take 23(?) of them, and outfit them with a competition package for homologation purposes. Then have numerous success racing factory and privateer cars.

This car is more rare than a 73 Carrera RS. Perhaps you could say it didn’t have the marketing machine behind it like the 911 did with its flagship cars.

IMO, it was sold and bought well!
horizontally-opposed
Would much rather have this 914-6 M471, particularly with its Strenger connection (and a great ownership history to boot!), than a 1973 Carrera RS from a production run of 1,500+ cars. Well sold and well bought, IMO.

In the old days, you had to have several screws loose to prefer a 914 to a 911 of the same vintage. Or just view the world a little differently. wink.gif It is, however, weird to look at 914s—any 914s—as $100,000, $500,000, and even $1,000,000+ cars. The vast majority of 914s aren't worth that much, but they share the same design and most of the parts with those that are. Never thought I'd see the day where great 914s were Ferrari money, but I'd still rather have a 914.

I have mixed feelings on rising 914 prices. Some cars will be saved smilie_pokal.gif , some enthusiasts will be priced out sad.gif , and many cars won't be driven as much, as hard, or as often. barf.gif
Bullethead
QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Mar 6 2022, 02:30 PM) *

Would much rather have this 914-6 M471, particularly with its Strenger connection (and a great ownership history to boot!), than a 1973 Carrera RS from a production run of 1,500+ cars. Well sold and well bought, IMO.

In the old days, you had to have several screws loose to prefer a 914 to a 911 of the same vintage. Or just view the world a little differently. wink.gif It is, however, weird to look at 914s—any 914s—as $100,000, $500,000, and even $1,000,000+ cars. The vast majority of 914s aren't worth that much, but they share the same design and most of the parts with those that are. Never thought I'd see the day where great 914s were Ferrari money, but I'd still rather have a 914.

I have mixed feelings on rising 914 prices. Some cars will be saved smilie_pokal.gif , some enthusiasts will be priced out sad.gif , and many cars won't be driven as much, as hard, or as often. barf.gif


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Well bought indeed! Congratulations @smg914 . But I'm sort of surprised it didn't bring more... besides Brutus it's possibly the most significant civilian 914/6.
Montreal914
QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Mar 6 2022, 11:30 AM) *

I have mixed feelings on rising 914 prices. Some cars will be saved smilie_pokal.gif , some enthusiasts will be priced out sad.gif , and many cars won't be driven as much, as hard, or as often. barf.gif


^^^ Precisely! sad.gif
mepstein
QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Mar 6 2022, 02:30 PM) *

Would much rather have this 914-6 M471, particularly with its Strenger connection (and a great ownership history to boot!), than a 1973 Carrera RS from a production run of 1,500+ cars. Well sold and well bought, IMO.

In the old days, you had to have several screws loose to prefer a 914 to a 911 of the same vintage. Or just view the world a little differently. wink.gif It is, however, weird to look at 914s—any 914s—as $100,000, $500,000, and even $1,000,000+ cars. The vast majority of 914s aren't worth that much, but they share the same design and most of the parts with those that are. Never thought I'd see the day where great 914s were Ferrari money, but I'd still rather have a 914.

I have mixed feelings on rising 914 prices. Some cars will be saved smilie_pokal.gif , some enthusiasts will be priced out sad.gif , and many cars won't be driven as much, as hard, or as often. barf.gif

agree.gif I’d rather have them cheap so I can buy the cars I want.
smg914
I feel pretty good when I compare what all the other Porsches went for (including a few other notable manufactures, excluding supercars). Here is a complete list in order of price (highest to lowest). Some pretty incredible cars that went for less money than the M471.

1994 911 Turbo S: $1,105,000
1991 911 carrera 4 lightweight: $1,050,000
1971 914-6 M471: $544,000
2006 Ford GT: $544,000
2005 Ford GT: $538,500
1960 356 carrera zagato speedster: $472,500
1996 911 Turbo coupe: $456,000
2006 RUF Rt12 S: $434,000
1963 356 B carrera 2 2000 GS/GT sunroof coupe: $428,500
1963 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray ZO6 coupe: $423,000
1981 924 carrera GTS club sport: $417,500
2018 911 GT2 RS Weissach: $412,000
1960 356 B 1600 roadster: $357,000
2011 911 speedster: $324,000
1991 Ferrari Testarossa: $321,250
1958 Jaguar XK 150 S 3.4 roadster: $302,000
1975 BMW 3.0 CSL 'Batmobile': $291,000
1989 911 speedster: $246,400
1974 911 carrera coupe (17,000 miles): $240,800
1989 911 speedster: $235,200
1994 911 speedster: $229,600
1993 BMW 850 CSi: $218,400
1959 Lancia Appia GTE series II by Zagato: $190,400
1976 Ferrari 308 GTB: $173,600
1973 1/2 911T 2.4 targa: $170,800
1956 Jaguar XK 140 Drophead coupe: $156,800
1970 914-6: $128,800
1954 Jaguar XK 120 SE roadster: $126,000
1966 Austin Healey 3000 Mk III: $53,200
1976 914 2.0: $56,000
URY914
Congrads Steve. I'm sorry I missed it.
racer914
Congrats Steve! Great seeing you and the wife at Werks
carr914
I'm surprised that a mutual friend of Steve & myself didn't buy the M-471. He has one that is being restored which will take awhile. Instead he bought the IROC that was at Goodings for $1,7Mil

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carr914
Steve with his Baby for the last time! first.gif

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dcheek
QUOTE(Tdskip @ Mar 6 2022, 05:25 AM) *

Whoa - other than a billionaire who just wanted it can someone help make sense of the closing price?


Supply/Demand

Supply - LOW
Demand - HIGH

Dave
dr914@autoatlanta.com
and the buyer and I and steve thought that it went too low for what it is worth. The buyer would have paid 200 more if it was necessary
dcheek
Steve,

I was at The Amelia this year (my first). Sorry I couldn't catch up with you. I was in a purple haze of collector car overload.

Congratulations on the sale - well deserved.

How about taking the money and buying that 901 in the show? Please don't do something practical like investing it. LOL.

Dave
VaccaRabite
QUOTE(dcheek @ Mar 8 2022, 11:37 AM) *

I was at The Amelia this year (my first). Sorry I couldn't catch up with you. I was in a purple haze of collector car overload.


That is about the normal experience.
In the past I'd go for several days and I'd need to take a day off and do something non-car related just to cleanse my palate.

How many super rare cars do you need to see before its suddenly just "oh - its anther one." Go to Amelia Island, hit up all the auctions, and you will find out.

Also, prepare for regular car shows to be destroyed for you now for at least a year. There really isn't anything else like it (maybe Pebble Beach, but I've not been to that one).

Zach
mepstein
QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Mar 8 2022, 01:50 PM) *

QUOTE(dcheek @ Mar 8 2022, 11:37 AM) *

I was at The Amelia this year (my first). Sorry I couldn't catch up with you. I was in a purple haze of collector car overload.


That is about the normal experience.
In the past I'd go for several days and I'd need to take a day off and do something non-car related just to cleanse my palate.

How many super rare cars do you need to see before its suddenly just "oh - its anther one." Go to Amelia Island, hit up all the auctions, and you will find out.

Also, prepare for regular car shows to be destroyed for you now for at least a year. There really isn't anything else like it (maybe Pebble Beach, but I've not been to that one).

Zach

I actually like regular car shows better. Give me a local town car show or a 914 get together and you have my interest. Perfectly redone show cars have no soul.
infraredcalvin
The great thing about pebble is the “optional” drive. It’s not really optional if you want to win best of show….

It’s great seeing them driven not stationary. Grew up with a big collector friend, 100+ cars all had to be drivable, every week he would point to 4 or 5 of them to be moved to the front of the garage, he would drive them 20 miles to the office, or the 2-3 miles to the club.
pete000
Cool to see the once unloved 914s hitting the lime light, I agree with others I thought it would have gone a bit higher. smash.gif

watsonrx13
QUOTE(URY914 @ Mar 6 2022, 07:42 PM) *

Congrads Steve. I'm sorry I missed it.

Congratulations Steve.
FRUNKenstein
QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 8 2022, 02:37 PM) *

QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Mar 8 2022, 01:50 PM) *

QUOTE(dcheek @ Mar 8 2022, 11:37 AM) *

I was at The Amelia this year (my first). Sorry I couldn't catch up with you. I was in a purple haze of collector car overload.


That is about the normal experience.
In the past I'd go for several days and I'd need to take a day off and do something non-car related just to cleanse my palate.

How many super rare cars do you need to see before its suddenly just "oh - its anther one." Go to Amelia Island, hit up all the auctions, and you will find out.

Also, prepare for regular car shows to be destroyed for you now for at least a year. There really isn't anything else like it (maybe Pebble Beach, but I've not been to that one).

Zach

I actually like regular car shows better. Give me a local town car show or a 914 get together and you have my interest. Perfectly redone show cars have no soul.


It's funny you mention that. The curator of the auto museum in our building was just in my office. He was talking about a complaint he just received saying that we don't have enough Lamborghinis on display. Is the definition of a car guy just someone that can write huge checks to buy, maintain, and have his car washed and waxed? Or is it the guy who buys a ratty $5,000 classic and pours his blood, sweat and tears into the thing for 2 years to bring it back to life? Give me the latter all day long - I'll stand and listen to that guy tell his story every time. I prefer "interesting" over perfection.
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