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Shivers
Awesome
Van914
I’m planning on being there!
GregAmy
Please let it be better than 81/83 (and Detroit and Dallas '84). Those were awful.

Though I do have a photo somewhere of Mansell trying to push his car across the line...what a bonkers weekend.
Van B
I'm not excited for F1 period. MotoGP is where the real racing action is. But on the Vegas race specifically, I thought that was announced for 2023?
FL000
Sounds like a fun weekend - I’m hoping to be there. driving.gif
sb914
That would be awesome!
They should make it in the circuit ….
JmuRiz
Another boring street circuit tongue.gif
Freezin 914
I am a F1 fan. It should look good on tv. I have to say the new regulations and aero specs seem to make the racing better so far…
rgalla9146
Disaster at turn one

Official calendar shows MIAMI (!) in May ( 6th-8th) Austin in Oct (21st-23rd) and no mention of Vegas.
Russia cancelled due to war crimes
abes914
I am hoping to attend. This is for next season 2023. This will be awesome! Vamos!
76-914
I love F1 but was was highly disappointed with their ruling handed down for the "Rain Delayed Race". Complete and utter Bull Shit. Crooked as a dogs hind leg. ar15.gif I'll still probably make the Austin and/or Vegas race. biggrin.gif
ClayPerrine
QUOTE(GregAmy @ Apr 1 2022, 07:10 AM) *

Please let it be better than 81/83 (and Detroit and Dallas '84). Those were awful.

Though I do have a photo somewhere of Mansell trying to push his car across the line...what a bonkers weekend.



I worked corners for the Dallas F1 race. I was about 20 feet from Mansell as he was pushing the car.

I don't think this was ever in any of the pictures, but I can remember his crew lined up with their toes touching the line waiting for him to push the car across the finish line. They couldn't help until he actually crossed the line because it would disqualify him. The second the car nose crossed the line, it was like a bunch of racehorses coming out of the gate.

Clay

Front yard mechanic
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Mar 31 2022, 08:18 PM) *

Hey John where's the best place to stay and have a street view ? I'm ready to be there!
GregAmy
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 1 2022, 11:50 AM) *
I worked corners for the Dallas F1 race. I was about 20 feet from Mansell as he was pushing the car.

You and I must have been shoulder-to-shoulder. I was a spectator but had an all-access pass because of some forgotten reason related to SCCA (CanAm?)

Did you ever work San Antonio for the GTP cars? I was F&C/spotter/"corner driver" for them*.

Small world!

GA

*Which allows me to slip in one of my fav stories about that time I drove the Momo Porsche 962 (wait, wut?)

For the weekend, IMSA put SCCA National-licensed drivers as F&C on each corner, in case a car had to be flat-towed. Well, wouldn't you know it, Gianpero Moretti parks the red 962 in our corner and walks away...and I could not wait until the race was over. Race is done, I jump in the car and drive it all the way around the track behind the tow vehicle, giving teh queen wave to all my F&C buddies.

We arrived at the paddock (inside the convention center, cool) and I didn't want to get out...until a gruff Italian implied that we could do this the easy way or the hard way...I fit real nice in there, too.
ClayPerrine

Personally, while I am glad they are bringing more races to the US, I am going to watch this one on TV. The track layout reminds me of LeMans before the chicanes on the Mullsanne straight. The focus will be on top speed, with very little chance of overtakes. So it is going to be a series of drag races down the straights.

And DRS is going to be a real advantage with this being all long straights with a few corners. Imagine coming out of turn 9 and getting DRS. You would have a HUGE advantage by the time you reach turn 11.

Just my $.02

Clay
VegasRacer
QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Apr 1 2022, 09:25 AM) *

Hey John where's the best place to stay and have a street view ?

The Flamingo would be my first choice if I wanted to watch the race from a hotel room.

They have the most rooms with a good Strip view, plus all the others are set back with fountains, volcanos and shopping having Strip frontage.
Also, the other properties have their towers at an angle to Las Vegas Blvd.

The Cosmopolitan, Palazzo and Treasure Island should also provide a good view of the action from some of their suites.
bkrantz
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 1 2022, 10:52 AM) *

Personally, while I am glad they are bringing more races to the US, I am going to watch this one on TV. The track layout reminds me of LeMans before the chicanes on the Mullsanne straight. The focus will be on top speed, with very little chance of overtakes. So it is going to be a series of drag races down the straights.

And DRS is going to be a real advantage with this being all long straights with a few corners. Imagine coming out of turn 9 and getting DRS. You would have a HUGE advantage by the time you reach turn 11.

Just my $.02

Clay


I flagged at Lemans in 1989, the last year before the chicanes. I ended up as part of a mixed French-British-Canadian-American team at the Mulsanne kink. Seeing the big Group C cars go by on the other side of the armco at 230 mph was pretty exciting.
wonkipop
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Apr 1 2022, 09:09 AM) *

Disaster at turn one

Official calendar shows MIAMI (!) in May ( 6th-8th) Austin in Oct (21st-23rd) and no mention of Vegas.
Russia cancelled due to war crimes


china (shanghai) cancelled too.....vid closed borders. gone for good from there?.

vegas gp will be a night one? neon backdrop too good not to use.
looks like its a real drag strip layout. park yourself at the end of one of those clinically insane straights and watch em hit the brakes. beerchug.gif those things can stop. most violent thing they do.

i just used to go to the qualifying session in melbourne. better than the race.
no crowd. (watch the race on tv). had schumacher stand in front of me when he crawled through the fence after a real big one trying too hard. for some reason i always thought of him as a big guy. he is tiny. a guy holding a piece of his wing with blood coming out of his forehead got it autographed. the crowd got a bit of a carbon shower.

stopped going after the turbo hybrid cars came in. spectacle trackside is not quite the same.

914rrr
Thinking about attending Vegas F1 2023. Anybody have any info on best hotel to see the race from, suite prices for the race, etc.?

My thought is to get a suite with some friends on a higher floor to view the race in comfort and maybe get a couple of general admission tickets.
VegasRacer
QUOTE(914rrr @ Apr 3 2022, 06:17 AM) *

Anybody have any info on best hotel to see the race from, suite prices for the race, etc.?

My thought is to get a suite with some friends on a higher floor to view the race in comfort

Remember. This is Vega$.
To get one of the prime suites you will need an upper level players card, a casino host, an established line of credit and minimum play requirements.

The Palazzo, Cosmopolitan, Treasure Island and Flamingo will offer the best views.
mgp4591
QUOTE(Van B @ Apr 1 2022, 07:04 AM) *

I'm not excited for F1 period. MotoGP is where the real racing action is. But on the Vegas race specifically, I thought that was announced for 2023?

That's what I thought too...the 3rd race of next season. And have you seen any F1 this year? The new chassis have made for some great racing and it's not much like the last few seasons. And Ferrari actually has a competitive car!
914-300Hemi
Excited about F1 in Vegas. piratenanner.gif
May go to the event but don’t want to deal with the crowds.
VegasRacer
You can be sure that I am going to work my connections and try to get a Pit Pass or assigned to flag on a corner station. smilie_flagge24.gif
wonkipop
the circus has arrived in town here.

if ferrari win - then lygon street in carlton will be mental on sunday night.

if ricciardo somehow ends up at the front (not likely unless about 5 other teams crash and burn) - then lygon st in carlton will be mental on sunday night.

italians!

beerchug.gif

wonkipop
they are just out on track here for practice for the first time.

still louder than anything else. can hear them clearly sitting at my desk.
i am at least 5 miles away on the other side of the river.
maybe louder than a couple of years ago when last here.
could be my imagination.

not like the noughties. they were real loud then. beerchug.gif


VegasRacer
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Apr 5 2022, 09:09 PM) *

You can be sure that I am going to work my connections and try to get a Pit Pass or assigned to flag on a corner station. smilie_flagge24.gif

Success. boldblue.gif dancinnanner.gif My application has been accepted and I will be working as a Corner Marshall for the race. smilie_flagge24.gif
SirAndy
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Jul 31 2023, 08:33 AM) *

QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Apr 5 2022, 09:09 PM) *

You can be sure that I am going to work my connections and try to get a Pit Pass or assigned to flag on a corner station. smilie_flagge24.gif

Success. boldblue.gif dancinnanner.gif My application has been accepted and I will be working as a Corner Marshall for the race. smilie_flagge24.gif

piratenanner.gif
Maltese Falcon
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Jul 31 2023, 08:33 AM) *

QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Apr 5 2022, 09:09 PM) *

You can be sure that I am going to work my connections and try to get a Pit Pass or assigned to flag on a corner station. smilie_flagge24.gif

Success. boldblue.gif dancinnanner.gif My application has been accepted and I will be working as a Corner Marshall for the race. smilie_flagge24.gif


Big Congrats John...watch out for Verstappen passing on Koval Blvd ! driving.gif aktion035.gif
vintagethunder
I got my pre-approval to be a marshal this morning. Exciting in a way, but not expecting the customary free GA ticket for family or friend, and there are no support races.

The schedule is 5pm to 2am Thurs and Friday, and 5pm to 1am Saturday night (race).

Average temperature that time of year is mid forties to mid sixties, so it will be interesting keeping slicks warm after the sun goes down! The very long straight (212mph) will make it even tougher.

There is a neato youtube video with Townsend Bell driving it on a simulator.
sb914
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Jul 31 2023, 08:33 AM) *

QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Apr 5 2022, 09:09 PM) *

You can be sure that I am going to work my connections and try to get a Pit Pass or assigned to flag on a corner station. smilie_flagge24.gif

Success. boldblue.gif dancinnanner.gif My application has been accepted and I will be working as a Corner Marshall for the race. smilie_flagge24.gif

Nice John ! I’ll be looking for you .
ConeDodger
QUOTE(914rrr @ Apr 3 2022, 10:17 AM) *

Thinking about attending Vegas F1 2023. Anybody have any info on best hotel to see the race from, suite prices for the race, etc.?

My thought is to get a suite with some friends on a higher floor to view the race in comfort and maybe get a couple of general admission tickets.


Even if cost was the only factor, (it’s not) the best rooms will cost a true fortune. Try getting an off strip room during SEMA or some other big convention, what was a $70 a night room last week will be $500 a night or more. If the show is right outside? The best rooms for viewing will be thousands. I suspect there will even be a secondary market for rooms like this.

Your best bet to accomplish this goal was to have reserved a room before this was announced.

This pic comes from an email I get from the MGM group of hotels…
VegasRacer
Just over a week to go and I am getting even more excited. Today I received my work assignment. I will be flagging at Turn 11, the end of the high speed Strip straight. This heavy breaking zone should have lots of action and might be the best passing area on the entire circuit.
Nogoodwithusernames
Color me jealous!

I got to attend one F1 race at the Sonoma raceway probably almost a decade ago now. Another business in our complex had some extra general admission tickets they gave us. That was a pretty awesome day, I just remember when the main event was over they did some other races with Maseratis (don't remember what class or anything). Boy they all sure seemed slow after the F1 cars!
Big Len
Where do you think much of the passing will be?
GregAmy
Cost-effective tickets are unobtanium. All general aviation airplanes are being charged a $3000 landing fee, even Cessnas (I don't know if that includes tie-downs). I'm told just getting into a casino this week/end may require having Taylor Swift on your arm.

I'll watch the spectacle for free from my commando-chair. With beer. I'll look for someone sporting a 914 t-shirt!

GA

P.S., I' m quite salty about this event, but certainly not surprised at all this. Miami led us this way and I figured Vegas could be worse; it is. This, from someone who's been attending F1 races for many decades (Dallas 1984 was my first one, I watch Mansell push his car across the line 150 yards away. Honestly, the Can AM races were more exciting, love those big 'Merican0engined monsters...)

Montreal is a good venue, if you have seats. GA is the sux, as you can't see much along the track from ground level.

We did all eight Indy F1 races, which cost us about $300/yr for four seats - yup, four - at the top of the grandstands right at Turn One (with a Jumbotron) and that included Fri-Sat general admission (all seats at the venue were GA on Fri-Sat, including those all along the front straight, you could walk in and grab any seat you want/ and/or move around the excellent viewing berms).

F1 ain't for the masses any more. Hell, maybe it wasn't ever...
Front yard mechanic
My drone will be banned from the sky
Spoke
Hope it's a good race. I was going to DVR it but I already have the video.

Max will be fastest in FP1, FP2, and FP3. He'll take pole position and Ferrari will find a way to ruin the race for both of their drivers.
ClayPerrine
I was a corner worker at the F1 race at Fair Park in Dallas in 1984.

I was maybe 30 yards from Nigel Mansell while he tried to push his car over the finish line in over 100 degree heat. The mechanics from his team were within a few feet of him, and couldn't help for fear of disqualifying him.

Keke Rosberg won the race. Mansell was credited with sixth.

I know it gets you in free, but you won't be able to watch much of the race from a corner worker station. Just lots of standing around waiting, and then watching the cars go by during the race.

I got lucky and worked a corner near start finish, so I got to see a little more. If you are on the back side of the track, its going to be a long, hot day for you.
VegasRacer
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Nov 6 2023, 04:16 PM) *

It's going to be a long, hot day for you.

Night Race. smilie_flagge24.gif 50 degrees. splat.gif
Van B
I’m in Vegas this week for work… what a mess this race is gonna be!
wonkipop
QUOTE(GregAmy @ Nov 6 2023, 01:26 PM) *


I'll watch the spectacle for free from my commando-chair. With beer. I'll look for someone sporting a 914 t-shirt!

GA



F1 ain't for the masses any more. Hell, maybe it wasn't ever...



beerchug.gif the chair is where i watch the melbourne F1 race from.
at the track sucks.
20 years ago it was ok at the track. not now.

F1 at Adelaide in the 80s was a phase still for the masses.
the crowd was 90% masses who loved the smell of petrol in the morning.
brilliant event.
turbo cars. senna. mansell. and BERGER.

-----

these days i try and get to bathurst for the 12 hour enduro.
there is no track like it anywhere.
much much much better than anything F1 can dish out.
+ you camp at the track. more or less still the LeMans style experience of the 60s and 70s.
making plans for next feb now.

---



TP914
I will be watching from my couch biggrin.gif
championgt1
QUOTE(wonkipop @ Nov 6 2023, 05:31 PM) *

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Nov 6 2023, 01:26 PM) *


I'll watch the spectacle for free from my commando-chair. With beer. I'll look for someone sporting a 914 t-shirt!

GA



F1 ain't for the masses any more. Hell, maybe it wasn't ever...



beerchug.gif the chair is where i watch the melbourne F1 race from.
at the track sucks.
20 years ago it was ok at the track. not now.

F1 at Adelaide in the 80s was a phase still for the masses.
the crowd was 90% masses who loved the smell of petrol in the morning.
brilliant event.
turbo cars. senna. mansell. and BERGER.

-----

these days i try and get to bathurst for the 12 hour enduro.
there is no track like it anywhere.
much much much better than anything F1 can dish out.
+ you camp at the track. more or less still the LeMans style experience of the 60s and 70s.
making plans for next feb now.

---


Bathurst is on my bucket list!
ClayPerrine
QUOTE(championgt1 @ Nov 6 2023, 09:36 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Nov 6 2023, 05:31 PM) *

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Nov 6 2023, 01:26 PM) *


I'll watch the spectacle for free from my commando-chair. With beer. I'll look for someone sporting a 914 t-shirt!

GA



F1 ain't for the masses any more. Hell, maybe it wasn't ever...



beerchug.gif the chair is where i watch the melbourne F1 race from.
at the track sucks.
20 years ago it was ok at the track. not now.

F1 at Adelaide in the 80s was a phase still for the masses.
the crowd was 90% masses who loved the smell of petrol in the morning.
brilliant event.
turbo cars. senna. mansell. and BERGER.

-----

these days i try and get to bathurst for the 12 hour enduro.
there is no track like it anywhere.
much much much better than anything F1 can dish out.
+ you camp at the track. more or less still the LeMans style experience of the 60s and 70s.
making plans for next feb now.

---


Bathurst is on my bucket list!



Ours too. Maybe we can get wonkinpop to arrange a group tour for us??? biggrin.gif
Tonyooc
I was there in October, they already are setting up on the streets. That's gonna echo going down the strip. smilie_pokal.gif
wonkipop
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Nov 7 2023, 03:36 PM) *

QUOTE(championgt1 @ Nov 6 2023, 09:36 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Nov 6 2023, 05:31 PM) *

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Nov 6 2023, 01:26 PM) *


I'll watch the spectacle for free from my commando-chair. With beer. I'll look for someone sporting a 914 t-shirt!

GA



F1 ain't for the masses any more. Hell, maybe it wasn't ever...



beerchug.gif the chair is where i watch the melbourne F1 race from.
at the track sucks.
20 years ago it was ok at the track. not now.

F1 at Adelaide in the 80s was a phase still for the masses.
the crowd was 90% masses who loved the smell of petrol in the morning.
brilliant event.
turbo cars. senna. mansell. and BERGER.

-----

these days i try and get to bathurst for the 12 hour enduro.
there is no track like it anywhere.
much much much better than anything F1 can dish out.
+ you camp at the track. more or less still the LeMans style experience of the 60s and 70s.
making plans for next feb now.

---


Bathurst is on my bucket list!



Ours too. Maybe we can get wonkinpop to arrange a group tour for us??? biggrin.gif


be only too happy.

texans are top of my list of human beings. beerchug.gif
followed closely by all other USA human beings.

you ain't seen nothing until you see one of those euro enduro class porsches come over sky-line and drop through the esses to the dipper.
the corkscrew at laguna seca is good. but bathurst is one insane notch up from that.

this year we are taking the daughter of the man who provided and prepared the devil's # monaro (#13) that won in 68. she is pretty excited about going. she has never been.
she will be royalty on pit row but she does not know it yet. biggrin.gif

bit of an expedition even for me.
2 day drive if you don't want to share the road with roos at sunset.
2 days up. 3 days there. 2 days back.

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but i don't wish to detract from the thread of the spectacle of F1 at vegas.
suspect that @VegasRacer is really going to enjoy himself.
also suspect that the televised spectacle of night time vegas and F1 is going to be pretty good in the transmitted visual world - regardless of on track experience.

to me the track in Austin looks pretty darned good.
but of course i am judging it off TV.

i did watch interlagos last week. that was heaps fun to watch. go Alonso!
all the action is further back this year. numero uno M V is kind off in a lonely world that is kind of boring at the front. but back a few places and its all action. beerchug.gif
wonkipop
QUOTE(Van B @ Nov 6 2023, 07:02 PM) *

I’m in Vegas this week for work… what a mess this race is gonna be!


secret mission to the skunkworks at area 51? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif beerchug.gif
GregAmy
This schedule is pure madness...times are ET.

11/16 11:25 p.m. Practice 1
11/17 2:55 a.m. Practice 2
11/17 11:25 p.m. Practice 3
11/18 2:55 a.m. Qualifying
11/18 11:30 p.m. 8:30 p.m. Pre-race
11/19 12:55 a.m. Las Vegas Grand Prix

I'll definitely be watching that Sunday afternoon. Madness.

They're predicting to possibly set a record for the LOWEST air temperature in the history of F1...might be as fun to watch as if it was raining...
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