gnomefabtech
Jan 26 2023, 06:26 PM
Hello All-
I took a break from the 914 thing but now I'm back after a few year putting a barn found 73 back together. I modded some stock seats to have side bolsters and now that I put them in I notice that the driver's seat isn't really in line with the steering wheel but off to the right a bit. Stock seats, stock mounts. Is this normal? My last 914 has aftermarket seats so I don't have a point of reference.
gnomefabtech
Jan 26 2023, 06:27 PM
Also. How do I post a picture here?
rjames
Jan 26 2023, 06:55 PM
That's normal. It threw me for a loop, too, when I replaced my floor pans and then put the seat back in. I thought I had misaligned the brackets that the seat rails attach to when I welded them in.
mepstein
Jan 26 2023, 07:05 PM
I’ve owned a 914 since I was 16. Sitting in one always feels normal to me and I didn’t get the “offset” until someone pointed it out to me. Since it was an early car, I’m also used to reaching for the wiper switch on the dash.
914Sixer
Jan 26 2023, 07:32 PM
Part of the crash safety engineering that was ahead of the times.
gnomefabtech
Jan 26 2023, 07:34 PM
Thanks for the info. I guess I'll do more stretching on the right side.
Still can't post a pic of my seats though. I'm getting some error when I upload the image.
Superhawk996
Jan 26 2023, 07:45 PM
Pretty much all vehicles have an offset. Some more, some less.
It depends on the vehicle architecture. Vehicles with a tall transmission tunnel and or wide wheel wells are typically the worst.
Although the 914 has a low tunnel, the front wheel wells intrude on the passenger compartment quite a lot. This drives the pedals toward the center line. After that the steering wheel and the seat just follow.
SirAndy
Jan 26 2023, 07:48 PM
QUOTE(gnomefabtech @ Jan 26 2023, 05:34 PM)
Still can't post a pic of my seats though.
Try the nailed FAQ thread, it has info about adding pictures.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=94568
SirAndy
Jan 26 2023, 07:55 PM
This might explain it better
Spoke
Jan 26 2023, 08:44 PM
Not only the steering wheel, but the peddles are skewed towards the center of the car and not in line with the seat.
Montreal914
Jan 26 2023, 09:21 PM
Imperfection is perfection!
wonkipop
Jan 27 2023, 12:39 AM
the skew whiff thing is nothing to complain about left hand drive.
wait till you have to sit skewed in a RHD beetle, type 3 or worst of all a 914.
thats when you really sweat
the clutch pedal, the steering wheel and the seat as you do your conversion of a "never made" rhd 914.
it kind of works in beetles and 911s. nice and narrow between the seats.
a 914 is so wiiiiiiiiiide.
lkeigwin
Jan 27 2023, 06:37 AM
QUOTE(gnomefabtech @ Jan 26 2023, 07:26 PM)
Hello All-
I took a break from the 914 thing but now I'm back after a few year putting a barn found 73 back together. I modded some stock seats to have side bolsters and now that I put them in I notice that the driver's seat isn't really in line with the steering wheel but off to the right a bit. Stock seats, stock mounts. Is this normal? My last 914 has aftermarket seats so I don't have a point of reference.
Jamie
Jan 27 2023, 08:48 AM
QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 26 2023, 10:39 PM)
the skew whiff thing is nothing to complain about left hand drive.
wait till you have to sit skewed in a RHD beetle, type 3 or worst of all a 914.
thats when you really sweat
the clutch pedal, the steering wheel and the seat as you do your conversion of a "never made" rhd 914.
it kind of works in beetles and 911s. nice and narrow between the seats.
a 914 is so wiiiiiiiiiide.
I can't even imagine trying to shift gears with my Left hand in a RHD car of any type!!!
gnomefabtech
Jan 27 2023, 10:53 AM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 26 2023, 05:55 PM)
This might explain it better
That diagram is pretty interesting. Thanks for posting.
gnomefabtech
Jan 27 2023, 10:59 AM
My image was too big before. So here are the seats I "made". Don't zoom in too far because I am not a pro upholstery person and I sewed the bolster sides myself. That said, they are way better than stock seats.
Click to view attachment
MM1
Jan 27 2023, 01:46 PM
The "angled to center" implementation seems especially prominent on mid-engined vehicles for packaging reasons, etc.
I'll never forget the first time I sat in and drove my friends 1975 Dino 308 GT4 . . .the skew was initially quite disturbing.
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