I just became the proud new owner of a 1970 914 that has been converted into a track car for the past 20 years. It has a tangerine racing roll cage. Boxster front brakes, alpha rear brakes without the emergency brake. It is a 3L case with 3.2 J&E pistons,EMS cylinders and PMO carbs. I think it has a S camshaft. It is a blast to drive.
The first few things I need to take care of are oil change, fuel lines and fluids. The next thing is installing engine sheet metal, cylinder head temp gauge and replacing parts as I find need replaced. I will drive and enjoy the car this summer, hope it to bring to East Coast ramble.
I know the car is a little rough so be gentle.
I am planning on installing a early 911 emergency brake system, if anybody has any parts I would appreciate it. Will put a part request in for sale section.Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
Full Version: 1970 914 with 3.2ss
Awesome!
Enjoy the fun.
Enjoy the fun.
Nice new car! Bringing it to Carlisle?
What is the fascination with the 911 ebrake? This is the second post in the last few weeks that it was mentioned.
What is the fascination with the 911 ebrake? This is the second post in the last few weeks that it was mentioned.
QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Mar 7 2023, 09:53 PM) 
Nice new car! Bringing it to Carlisle?
What is the fascination with the 911 ebrake? This is the second post in the last few weeks that it was mentioned.
This car will not be road legal in time for Carlisle.
The reason for the 911 e brake setup is for when the rear brakes have been upgraded for more braking power. Porsche moved to the inner e brake so they had free choice of caliper size.
Matt
QUOTE(mate914 @ Mar 8 2023, 03:47 AM)
QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Mar 7 2023, 09:53 PM)
Nice new car! Bringing it to Carlisle?
What is the fascination with the 911 ebrake? This is the second post in the last few weeks that it was mentioned.
This car will not be road legal in time for Carlisle.
The reason for the 911 e brake setup is for when the rear brakes have been upgraded for more braking power. Porsche moved to the inner e brake so they had free choice of caliper size.
Matt
Congrats, nice find. What gearbox is the car using? Also is the shifter the updated post 1974 side-version or the older tail-shifter?
You have a bit of work in front of you but cool project and it will be one fun car for sure !
Antoine
Antoine
Congratulations. That should be a blast to drive. 
QUOTE(tshih914 @ Mar 8 2023, 07:32 AM)
QUOTE(mate914 @ Mar 8 2023, 03:47 AM)
QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Mar 7 2023, 09:53 PM)
Nice new car! Bringing it to Carlisle?
What is the fascination with the 911 ebrake? This is the second post in the last few weeks that it was mentioned.
This car will not be road legal in time for Carlisle.
The reason for the 911 e brake setup is for when the rear brakes have been upgraded for more braking power. Porsche moved to the inner e brake so they had free choice of caliper size.
Matt
Congrats, nice find. What gearbox is the car using? Also is the shifter the updated post 1974 side-version or the older tail-shifter?
Car has been converted to side shift. I do not know the gearing in the box. It is a 914 transmission.
Matt
QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Mar 8 2023, 09:55 AM)
Congratulations. That should be a blast to drive.
I would have to say most likely the fastest car I’ve ever been in to date.
It literally lifts the passengers feet off the floor accelerating second and third gear. It is phenomenal.
Matt
Nice car! Did 1970s have tits
I need help deciding on what calipers are on the back. I have an extra set for an alpha. But I think I have M calipers now I will post a picture. Can someone please help?Click to view attachment
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QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Mar 8 2023, 06:22 PM)
Nice car! Did 1970s have tits
Yes, the 70s had great tits. But not the 1970 914.
Every generation has had great tits.
Matt
These are some type of Alpha calipers. Can anyone identify?
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@mate914
I used to spend a lot of time up at Eagles Mere - and my family has been summering there off and on for over 100 years. My recollection is that the Eagles Mere Association was... strict; and if they could block or bar someone from doing something they did. Have they given you grief over restoring cars? I've been close to buying property there twice now and decided against it over concerns with my hobbies.
Zach
I used to spend a lot of time up at Eagles Mere - and my family has been summering there off and on for over 100 years. My recollection is that the Eagles Mere Association was... strict; and if they could block or bar someone from doing something they did. Have they given you grief over restoring cars? I've been close to buying property there twice now and decided against it over concerns with my hobbies.
Zach
QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Mar 11 2023, 11:33 AM)
@mate914
I used to spend a lot of time up at Eagles Mere - and my family has been summering there off and on for over 100 years. My recollection is that the Eagles Mere Association was... strict; and if they could block or bar someone from doing something they did. Have they given you grief over restoring cars? I've been close to buying property there twice now and decided against it over concerns with my hobbies.
Zach
Nope, in fact the town is very car friendly. Just be respectful to people walking down the middle of the road. There is a very fine car/motorcycle/old air planes museum + air port.
I am hoping to get a north east ramble up here in the mountains.. Where we can drive and not see a red light or highway all day.
Let me know if your making a trip up sometime.
Matt
QUOTE(mate914 @ Mar 11 2023, 11:47 AM)
I am hoping to get a north east ramble up here in the mountains.. Where we can drive and not see a red light or highway all day.
Let me know if your making a trip up sometime.
Matt
I'd show for that. Its a beautiful area! Last time I was up was 2017. Its getting harder and harder to get the family reunions going. You pretty much need to make reservations at any of the cottages in December/January or earlier these days.
Zach
That must be a hoot to drive! Who cares about gearing with a Ss 3.2!
Charlie
Charlie
QUOTE(flyer86d @ Mar 11 2023, 04:29 PM)
That must be a hoot to drive! Who cares about gearing with a Ss 3.2!
Charlie
It is slightly more than a hoot. Purrs like a kitten at idle and screams like a mountain lion 6k… I will try recording a cold start.
Matt
Removed the cage and racing seats. Original floors are in incredible condition. Very little rust. Most cars on the East Coast have floor pans that are rusted out. Fortunately this car came out of Arizona in 1998. Still has the tabs for the carpets.Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
Ultimately, I’m working on making the car inspectable. I have everything under control except for the emergency brake. I’m not 100% sure how to do it. I have read several threads on how to do it and feel confident I can do it. With the car being a high horsepower 3.2 short stroke, I think I need to keep the rear brakes as they are or even upgrade to Boxster. Right now it has the brembo aluminum from an alpha.?
Any in sight would be helpful.
Matt
Any in sight would be helpful.
Matt
The car does have some history.Click to view attachment
QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Mar 11 2023, 10:33 AM)
@mate914
I used to spend a lot of time up at Eagles Mere - and my family has been summering there off and on for over 100 years. My recollection is that the Eagles Mere Association was... strict; and if they could block or bar someone from doing something they did. Have they given you grief over restoring cars? I've been close to buying property there twice now and decided against it over concerns with my hobbies.
Zach In the borough of Eagles Mere you don't even want to have grass that needs cut so no car parts laying around. In Shrewsbury TWP that borders the town you will get dirty looks but not much they can do. Matt and I drive our cars through town and up around the lake several times in the summer. Lots of waves and smiles. The two men who own the Eagles Mere Inn are also the two that own the car and air plane museum. Everyone that is anyone eats at the Eagles Mere Inn. My daughter, Matts sister is a waitress there and my next door neighbor has been their head cook for several years now. We have one red light in the entire county and that is 16 miles away so lots of nice mountain driving.
QUOTE(TomE @ Mar 13 2023, 01:37 PM)
Zach In the borough of Eagles Mere you don't even want to have grass that needs cut so no car parts laying around. In Shrewsbury TWP that borders the town you will get dirty looks but not much they can do. Matt and I drive our cars through town and up around the lake several times in the summer. Lots of waves and smiles. The two men who own the Eagles Mere Inn are also the two that own the car and air plane museum. Everyone that is anyone eats at the Eagles Mere Inn. My daughter, Matts sister is a waitress there and my next door neighbor has been their head cook for several years now. We have one red light in the entire county and that is 16 miles away so lots of nice mountain driving.
This is what I remember. One of the cabins we used to rent got barred for 5-10 years of any rentals after they cut down two trees to have a better view of the lake. Another owner was complaining of fines they incurred while fixing water damage. As nice as it is in Eagles Mere proper, the township seems to be somewhat difficult.
But you don't have to go far down the mountain before you start seeing detached garages. I should get back in touch with Robin realty and see what's what these days. One of the dumbest things I have done was passing on a 40acre plot on the Loyalsock, but this was 2009, the market had crashed, and our first kid was just an infant. Man I wish I had just bought that land!
I've had many meals at the Eagles Mere Inn over the years, all of them were fantastic.
When I get the new motor in my car (sometime before Hershey) I'd be up for a longish shakedown cruise up to the Lake.
Zach
QUOTE(mate914 @ Mar 12 2023, 06:20 PM)
Ultimately, I’m working on making the car inspectable. I have everything under control except for the emergency brake. I’m not 100% sure how to do it. I have read several threads on how to do it and feel confident I can do it. With the car being a high horsepower 3.2 short stroke, I think I need to keep the rear brakes as they are or even upgrade to Boxster. Right now it has the brembo aluminum from an alpha.?
Any in sight would be helpful.
Matt
HP has nothing to do with braking. Only mass and velocity.
QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 13 2023, 03:09 PM)
QUOTE(mate914 @ Mar 12 2023, 06:20 PM)
Ultimately, I’m working on making the car inspectable. I have everything under control except for the emergency brake. I’m not 100% sure how to do it. I have read several threads on how to do it and feel confident I can do it. With the car being a high horsepower 3.2 short stroke, I think I need to keep the rear brakes as they are or even upgrade to Boxster. Right now it has the brembo aluminum from an alpha.?
Any in sight would be helpful.
Matt
HP has nothing to do with braking. Only mass and velocity.
Then it needs no more breaking power. It only needs to be inspectable, that requires an emergency brake. Looks like I will keep the Brembo aluminum’s on the back and go for early. 911 emergency brake.
Matt
I just did the 911 ebrake swap on my 73. You can buy the backing plates shoes and hardware all new. You will have to grind on your control arms a bit to get the backing plates on there but it's not very hard. Use a VW bus parking brake cable to extend your cables. You end up with something like this.
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QUOTE(gnomefabtech @ Mar 13 2023, 08:51 PM)
I just did the 911 ebrake swap on my 73. You can buy the backing plates shoes and hardware all new. You will have to grind on your control arms a bit to get the backing plates on there but it's not very hard. Use a VW bus parking brake cable to extend your cables. You end up with something like this.
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That looks nice. Can I please ask who you use for vendor?
Matt
I think the hardware and shoes came from Stoddard. The backing plates were from ebay but I think they were new. You also need to add a bit to the backing plate to keep the shoes from spinning around. This was what I did here.
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Awesome looking. Let me know if you need engine sheet metal. I got a fresh supply of laser cuts.
QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Mar 13 2023, 12:18 PM)
QUOTE(TomE @ Mar 13 2023, 01:37 PM)
Zach In the borough of Eagles Mere you don't even want to have grass that needs cut so no car parts laying around. In Shrewsbury TWP that borders the town you will get dirty looks but not much they can do. Matt and I drive our cars through town and up around the lake several times in the summer. Lots of waves and smiles. The two men who own the Eagles Mere Inn are also the two that own the car and air plane museum. Everyone that is anyone eats at the Eagles Mere Inn. My daughter, Matts sister is a waitress there and my next door neighbor has been their head cook for several years now. We have one red light in the entire county and that is 16 miles away so lots of nice mountain driving.
This is what I remember. One of the cabins we used to rent got barred for 5-10 years of any rentals after they cut down two trees to have a better view of the lake. Another owner was complaining of fines they incurred while fixing water damage. As nice as it is in Eagles Mere proper, the township seems to be somewhat difficult.
But you don't have to go far down the mountain before you start seeing detached garages. I should get back in touch with Robin realty and see what's what these days. One of the dumbest things I have done was passing on a 40acre plot on the Loyalsock, but this was 2009, the market had crashed, and our first kid was just an infant. Man I wish I had just bought that land!
I've had many meals at the Eagles Mere Inn over the years, all of them were fantastic.
When I get the new motor in my car (sometime before Hershey) I'd be up for a longish shakedown cruise up to the Lake.
Zach
QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 14 2023, 07:21 AM)
Awesome looking. Let me know if you need engine sheet metal. I got a fresh supply of laser cuts.
I already have a set from you and will be going on first thing. Thank you.
Where are you with making the gt oil lines? I could use them soonish.
Matt
QUOTE(gnomefabtech @ Mar 13 2023, 09:22 PM)
I think the hardware and shoes came from Stoddard. The backing plates were from ebay but I think they were new. You also need to add a bit to the backing plate to keep the shoes from spinning around. This was what I did here.
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The brake backing plate is not substantial enough to use for the shoe stop. It would be fine if you are just using it for a "park" brake, but if you try to use it when the car is in motion at any speed, you are going to rip the shoes off of it and tear up the backing plate. You should use a big piece of angle iron welded directly to the trailing arm.
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