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Bse30
New member here with my first 914.
I just picked up a neighbors 1974 914 2.0 that has been sitting since a left front accident in 1995. Remarkably good shape, otherwise.. It was stored in a garage from 1995-2019, covered in front of garage next to my place since then.
I bought it from the family after he passed.
I entered the VIN knowing it was near the end of 1974 production. Build date of 8/74.
Website says it is out of range for this model year.
I’ve found at least 3 different references stating ending VIN is 21370, and at least 3 state last VIN is 21379. This car is unequivocally 21378. All documents and 3 clear VINs match. Which would make this the 2nd to the last 1974 made if I go by the second source.
Any thoughts? Is this the norm for other years. No big deal, just somewhat interesting to me.
Thanks
Brian S.
KELTY360
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It would seem you’ve helped validate the 21379 VIN#. Congratulations on getting such a special 914, although, they’re all pretty special. There’s something to be aware of:

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930cabman
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Congrats on your new find, try to get some pics posted and is she roadable?
BENBRO02
You should send pictures of the vin so that Sir Andy can update the vin range. You appear to have the last surviving 1974.

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JeffBowlsby
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davep
The beginning and end of year are always interesting. Published literature of the VIN ranges can be deceiving, and I do like to verify. I am very glad to see the new owner bring this up. One odd thing is that he claims the completion date is 08/74 when I do have claims of 1975 models with 07/74 I would certainly like photos of any compliance decals from this model year change. Brian, please contact me. Dave
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BTW, and very odd situation I discovered was with the 1971 911S coupe that has a hole of over 200 cars missing in the range in the middle of the year, and the number of engines produced support the existence of this hole. I even have a photo of the production page showing the gap.
SirAndy
QUOTE(davep @ Mar 12 2023, 01:24 PM) *
I would certainly like photos of any compliance decals

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Post some pics of the VIN plates/decals and the Karmann tag.
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Bse30
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Date of manufacture 8/74
Bse30
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SirAndy
28 2 95 10

28 Week
2nd day
10th car that day


Not sure if the weeks started counting with Sunday or Monday, if Monday that would mean the car was built July 9th 1974 at Karmann.

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scott_in_nh
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 12 2023, 08:00 PM) *

28 2 95 10

28 Week
2nd day
10th car that day


Not sure if the weeks started counting with Sunday or Monday, if Monday that would mean the car was built July 9th 1974 at Karmann.

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My early 74 was built on 38 1 95 67
So I would assume 1 = Monday
in my case Monday 9/17 biggrin.gif
Type 47
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 12 2023, 05:00 PM) *

28 2 95 10

28 Week
2nd day
10th car that day


Not sure if the weeks started counting with Sunday or Monday, if Monday that would mean the car was built July 9th 1974 at Karmann.

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So help me understand. How do you get 28 2 95 10 from the VIN 472921378

Also, I'm assuming that MY's changed in August since my car is a 75' and was manufactured 8/74.

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NARP74
From the Karmann tag
Osnabruck914
Very strange. I always assumed 914s produced in August (after the summer hiatus and re-tool at the factory, were for the following model year. My '74 is dated 8/73 and follows suit. Guess this is a unicorn. Or is something stamped wrong on the VIN label?

Osnabruck914
JeffBowlsby
Oh this is interesting. Check out recall campaign HC here: https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Recalls.htm

@davep
Bse30
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Mar 13 2023, 04:44 PM) *

Oh this is interesting. Check out recall campaign HC here: https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Recalls.htm

@davep

Good find on incorrect label recall. Also notice that recall HO shows 1974 VIN ends at 21379.
More evidence that VIN ending in 21370 is incorrect.
Thanks
BrianS
davep
QUOTE(Osnabruck914 @ Mar 13 2023, 07:36 PM) *

Very strange. I always assumed 914s produced in August (after the summer hiatus and re-tool at the factory, were for the following model year. My '74 is dated 8/73 and follows suit. Guess this is a unicorn. Or is something stamped wrong on the VIN label?

Osnabruck914

The final assembly , and thus the dates on the compliance decals can run later than the summer break. Note that all of the 1974 model year cars have weeks up to 28 but the 1975 model year have weeks starting 32, so there was a month long gap in chassis production, but not necessarily the final assembly.

Yes, the HC campaign was to replace incorrectly dated compliance decals, but this is a known hiccup regarding the dates.
Notice the HO campaign has the correct VIN ranges for all years.
SirAndy
QUOTE(davep @ Mar 13 2023, 06:52 PM) *
Notice the HO campaign has the correct VIN ranges for all years.

Not exactly ...

HO - Lists the end of 75 as 74

9F - List the /6 range to start at 11, while 9K starts at 1 (and some people argue there were no cars prior to 11)

9J - The 2nd /4 has a missing 0

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wonkipop
@SirAndy

HO error for 75 is a typo by mr. b when he entered data in his table.

original porsche audi documentation attached as links by mr. b is correct.

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wonkipop
QUOTE(Bse30 @ Mar 11 2023, 04:42 PM) *

New member here with my first 914.
I just picked up a neighbors 1974 914 2.0 that has been sitting since a left front accident in 1995. Remarkably good shape, otherwise.. It was stored in a garage from 1995-2019, covered in front of garage next to my place since then.
I bought it from the family after he passed.
I entered the VIN knowing it was near the end of 1974 production. Build date of 8/74.
Website says it is out of range for this model year.
I’ve found at least 3 different references stating ending VIN is 21370, and at least 3 state last VIN is 21379. This car is unequivocally 21378. All documents and 3 clear VINs match. Which would make this the 2nd to the last 1974 made if I go by the second source.
Any thoughts? Is this the norm for other years. No big deal, just somewhat interesting to me.
Thanks
Brian S.


nothing odd about 08/74 completion date.
commenced construction in july (see production number on plate in door).
Vin stickers did not go on until the end of the line tick off.
this car may not have been 100% finished before summer holiday shutdown.
if so would have been completed when production resumed later in august.
alternatively might have been delayed for a defect correction.

JeffBowlsby
Thanks Gents. Webpage issues fixed.

https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Recalls.htm
flipb
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 12 2023, 08:00 PM) *

28 2 95 10

28 Week
2nd day
10th car that day


Not sure if the weeks started counting with Sunday or Monday, if Monday that would mean the car was built July 9th 1974 at Karmann.

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Does anyone know whether 1=Sunday or 1=Monday for day of the week?

It's critically important... I need to know what day to celebrate my car's 50th birthday this September! beer.gif

(Karman tag 3939513) = week of September 23, 1973
SirAndy
QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Mar 14 2023, 01:03 PM) *

Thanks Gents. Webpage issues fixed.

https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Recalls.htm


@JeffBowlsby

9J The /4 "SN Start" Vins are still too short, missing a zero

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JeffBowlsby
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 14 2023, 03:30 PM) *

QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Mar 14 2023, 01:03 PM) *

Thanks Gents. Webpage issues fixed.

https://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/Recalls.htm


@JeffBowlsby

9J The /4 "SN Start" Vins are still too short, missing a zero

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Fixed, thanks!
RAX914
QUOTE(flipb @ Mar 14 2023, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 12 2023, 08:00 PM) *

28 2 95 10

28 Week
2nd day
10th car that day


Not sure if the weeks started counting with Sunday or Monday, if Monday that would mean the car was built July 9th 1974 at Karmann.

idea.gif


Does anyone know whether 1=Sunday or 1=Monday for day of the week?

It's critically important... I need to know what day to celebrate my car's 50th birthday this September! beer.gif

(Karman tag 3939513) = week of September 23, 1973



Found on this site a while back

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Type 47
QUOTE(NARP74 @ Mar 13 2023, 02:57 PM) *

From the Karmann tag


OH...oh, oh oh the Karmann tag

so my 75' was one of the first one's made.

35 3 95 02

08.28.74

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davep
QUOTE(RAX914 @ Mar 14 2023, 06:56 PM) *

Found on this site a while back
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Hi, I am David
RAX914
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QUOTE(RAX914 @ Mar 14 2023, 06:56 PM) *

Found on this site a while back
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Hi, I am David

Hi David, thanks for making that information available for us!
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